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    50 minutes ago, Captain said:

    How are we feeling after this win? Personally still feeling 50/50. Part of it was a good game and some players stepped up, but at the same time the team has games where they look like one of the worst teams 2 out of the 4 quarters. This team is inconsistent and I’m trying to figure out just which team we truly are.

    Neither yet, I think. That’s the issue with rebuilds. The team can end up either way. This is where coaching and player development will make all the difference. A lot of what will define this team moving forward will happen on the practice floor.

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    4 hours ago, ?4thewin said:

    I was thinking about that but I'm not sure here's worth sending an asset out. He's not really a good passer so you're basically getting a Grant-Augustin hybrid which is nice but, like, what does that really mean for our team? 3 more wins?

    I don't think we should give up anything for marginal short term improvement that doesn't really give us something new. If we were talking someone like Rubio or Teague or Russell or something, that makes sense (a passer or a more dynamic scorer). 

    Should have grabbed Lin before Atlanta got him for cheap.

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    10 hours ago, fan for too long 2 said:

    Zion is one guy in the last decade I would tank for. He is a man child if he was able to come into this last draft he would’ve been a top 3 pick. He is a freak athletically. Has a nice stroke too. A lot of his weight is baby fat or a poor diet imo. If he loses that and gets in prime shape he will be a force in the league. He is only one inch shorter than Lebron with more muscle and athleticism when lebron came out of HS. 

    Should we tank for him NO!  Unless Gordon and Isaac do not develop they way they should this year. 

    At which point, it’s not tanking. It’s accepting fate.

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    13 minutes ago, The Boss said:

    My concern with IT, and it's something 4thewin mentioned, is that he most likely isn't our long term plan and that our long term plan PG isn't in the mould of IT at all, probably a longer better defender (to go with the length and switchability we have been building). So we are going to use a year teaching our young players how to play with a complete liability on defence that is 3 foot 7 tall. There could be some things that they can use going forward but I think as a whole it will be detrimental to their growth a bit, or our teams growth. IT requires the whole roster and playstyle to cater to him, we may have the roster already but do we really want to cater a whole offence on a player that is most likely a one year player?

    I feel like the plan is stockpile defense and length in the forward spots and capitalize on scoring with the guards. Maybe get a decent length scoring PG who can distribute to open shooters and knows how to funnel/stay in front of guys. Having AG/Isaac/Bamba means we can lose a little on defense at the 1 because they can all recover rather quickly to erase any mistakes.

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    25 minutes ago, TrueMagicFan07 said:

    LeBron has been quiet tonight (by his own standards). He has 18 pts. so far. By the way, this is similar to the way he played back in 2008-2009 when he made his decision to join the Heat after the Magic beat the Cavs to win the eastern conference finals.

    Lebron left after losing to Boston in the second round.

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    Pacers and Celtics both took the Cavs to seven games. Both series could have gone either way. If the claim is that KD on the Cavs would go to seven games against those two teams, I’m not sure that means a whole lot.

    I’m still of the opinion that those claims are all conjecture anyway. There are reasons to believe KD could succeed with this Cavs team. There are at least two games, probably closer to four between the Pacers and Celtics series that could have kept Lebron out of the finals.

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    They would have a different game plan with Durant, too. I feel like part of the problem playing with Lebron is movement becomes lethargic. I think a lot of it falls on the coach, but stylistically the same team would look a lot different. More cutting and screens since KD does so much damage from 15+ feet. Less standing around  the three point line waiting for the kick out. Being more involved that way would probably improve the play of “the other guys” as well.

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    4 minutes ago, Gordon MVP said:

    If you put Durant on Cleveland instead of lbj they are def not making the finals even in the east

    Maybe? Steph and Klay combined for 21 points on 7-27 shooting and Durant led them to a win. I don’t like the “if x player were on y team they definitely z.” We don’t know what guys are capable of until they accomplish it.

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    6 hours ago, jjgator said:

    You were better off not seeing it. The series could have been so much different if not for a few things. One of my biggest disappointments in sports along with the ECFs the next season. It's tough being a Magic fan.

    I was more disappointed in the loss to Atlanta the next year. They were built to only beat the Magic. That team could have gone to the finals. Had to get through Chicago and Miami which were good matchups.

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    Playing multiple 50-55 win teams is much more difficult than playing multiple 40-45 win teams. The team that comes out of the better conference (when there is a great enough margin) will be a little more worn down. In regular season terms, it’s like playing a fourth game in five or six nights against a team that’s played three games in the seven nights. The second team will have fresher legs and an advantage in that department. GSW lost to the Cavs for a few reasons, one of those being that they just came off a seven game series against a stingy OKC team that had two uber-athletic superstar players. Curry plays hurt, Bogut (read: only true rotation big) gets injured out of the series. Cavs had essentially swept a weak eastern conference and could have Kyrie and Lebron go all out for seven straight because of no fatigue.

    Whether or or not that’s the case, having a single team be better than another single team (throwing out the factor of how teams match up with one another) doesn’t mean anything for the strength of a conference as a whole. Using Springsteen’s example above, if one conference fielded seven sub-500 teams with one 50-win team, and the other had eight fifty win teams, the finals matchup doesn’t decide which conference is better. That’s an individual team achievement, and has nothing to do with the rest of the conference.

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    44 minutes ago, Mike1989 said:

    In the past decade the east have won four titles to the wests six titles. The East have won 26 games in those finals to the West's 30 wins. That's hardly domination in the finals. Sure there have probably been more stronger teams out west than east, but in a sense that doesn't matter because what ultimately matters is who wins the NBA title.

    If you take it back to the new millennium, then that does show that the West have won twelve titles to the east's six titles, but these sorts of runs happen in most decades. The 1990s saw seven titles go east compared to three titles going West. The 1980s saw five titles go both ways. The 1970s was six to the east, four to the west. 

    So since 1970 that's 24 eastern champions to 24 western champions. This year will see one side go ahead, it wouldn't surprise me if it's a team from the West, but we've seen the power swap conferences before and there's no reason why it can't or won't happen again.

    Isn’t this just an argument that Lebron is good? Using the finals to compare conferences isn’t really fair. Need to look at overall win percentage, at the very least, for both conferences’ playoff teams. Can go deeper with advanced stats to gauge which conference was better after factoring strength of schedule and +/-, etc. I’m not really good with all of that, but I’d be very surprised if the East anywhere close to as strong as the West. Especially in the few years before KD went to GSW.

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    2 minutes ago, ~O~ said:

    I think it has everything to do with us.  I think having an actual superstar to play with in Westbrook actually motivated him.  Now oladipo looks patient and poise like weight ia lifted off him.  I think allot of weight is placed on our guys to perform here.

    Yeah, I think playing with Westbrook made a big difference. And as said previously, being traded twice probably have him an extra dose of motivation. Brings hometown hero helps, I’m sure.

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