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BJ has a JJ sig because he lost a bet, on that note I think this was a valid thread and with nothing to discuss why not post it.

Congrats I always enjoy reading your post.

quote: Originally posted by ST since 90: quote: Originally posted by Rob:I hope the announcer at this when Vince Carter does something amazing like a dunk or a layup or shot" "DID YOU SEE, V.C." Just like the Nets announcer does. ROFL Please, no. We Vietnam vets get nervous when we hear that.

I dont think there will be any problem with our group of guys will let the new guys know how Stan coaches.

quote: Originally posted by Miller4Prez64: quote: Originally posted by Charlston Campos:So whens the deal official? Btw has anyone heard anything else regarding Barnes? Already official. What are the terms and how did we pay him?

I think you also have to take into account they were playing with Dwight they got better looks more often and we had Rashard and so on so people couldn't guard as effectivly against us.

Has the official terms been released? How did we aquire him?

WOW and people were doom and gloom and wanted Otis fired a couple of weeks ago. Have faith in Otis.

I think 60+ wins with a healthy team. If not for Jameer going down we would have had the best record last year or very close. I don't think it will take that long to gel VC and Dwight have been hanging out and Bass will pick up what we are doing pretty easy.

For me it was 93 I did a lot of driving and listened to the radio and on Mondays on 580am there was Scott Anez. So I started out on the radio and then started watching games. I miss the Monday Magic radio.

quote: Originally posted by PEC: quote: Originally posted by Lewis4thewin: quote: Originally posted by KillingInTheNameOf: quote: Originally posted by jecMagicMan: quote: Originally posted by PEC:Sounds like people are just a tad nervous about Gortat and did Otis or didn't he match. Okay, seriously. What? That's a worm hole you don't wanna enter. Sybil was probably easier to have a discussion with. how often is pec going to be wrong? "in this economy gortat would be lucky to get $900,000" And he is still overpaid for a backup center. Plus check to see how many teams dumped salary. That's right a lot more then those who added. So yes its the economy stupid. I think you are looking at this wrong. He is not a back up he is a trading piece that is very valuable. So we are hedging our bets for latter and putting together a killer line up.

I'm glad we have VC instead of Hedo but the year before last he had his best season and he has been our 2nd and 3rd option for years. quote: Originally posted by ironarrow:Hedo always played for contenders except his first few seasons with the Magic. Kings, Spurs, and Magic last season. It is hard to average 20 ppg for a European rookie if you are joining the league on a contending team. VC is the better overall player, sure. But he never played for a contender and his numbers will never be 24-25 ppg for the Magic. If they are that high here, then the Magic is in serious trouble! I can easily imagine Hedo averaging 20+ppg on the Nets, very easily! In fact, although not as crappy as the Nets, he might actually average around 20+ppg in Toronto. Let's see how VC pulls it off when playing on a contending team. I am telling you already, he will not get his numbers here. If he gets frustrated because of that, watch the drama! There is not way he will average his usual numbers for the Magic.. If he starts worrying about his numbers, that is a problem.. If he does get his numbers, there is a problem again as it is a sign of a one man show and not a team. If Vince wants to do good for the Magic, he needs to learn how to cope and live with 19-20 ppg. quote: Originally posted by Kramer: quote: Originally posted by T REX:This is an argument that will unfold next season. While Carter has had nice stats he hasn't done much recently team-wise. For as great as you guys claim he is the Nets sucked. I still don't think he'll beat the one opponent no one does....age. And at 33 next year. Rough, really rough. What had Hedo done prior to last season. The fact that we are holding a Carter Vs Hedo argument speaks volumes towards how overrated light skin colored atheletes seem to get. Hedo wasn't even a top 3 player on the Magic and we are replacing him with an 8 time All-Star super stud. Any comparison is bananas

If we do sign Gortat how does that effect the tax if we trade him? Do we pay a tax just because he was on our team during the year or only partial tax?

Some of you were saying this gave you the goose bumps but I thought that was just hype. But WOW it did! I'm so looking forward to next season. I liked Turk but he had things that just drove us crazy, I'm looking forward to watching a more complete player "VC" play with Dwight this team is going to be so amazing with some consistancy now.

quote: then he heard today "THEY WILL MATCH" so he was pretty sure "THEY WILL MATCH" This thread is annoying there is no will there is pretty sure. Big diffrence, why bother to post it.

Yes! I can finally stop pulling my hair out.

I dont think he is bashing Hedo. Otis felt the same way otherwise he would have signed him.

By Otis saying he'll wait to match the offer does this leave Otis in a better position to get more assets because he is holding Dallas hostage?

Ryan 33 points

waiting is torture

I'll see you at the restaurant at the end of the universe.

quote: Originally posted by Escobar06: quote: Originally posted by ThuglifeJ:ya but Sheed straight up said, the money isnt important, Im more focused on how I fit on the team. PLayers, coaches etc. Right now Id take Sheed over Hedu, he plays for the love of the game not the bank. Seroiusly y are ppl accepting this idea of wanting a couple million more. What happened to sports. Michael Jordan? u kno him? It's called most people, especially here in America, are greedy. We are raised here to believe that power, status, and NET WORTH are the ultimate goals in life. They either weren't around or have forgotten that pro athletes used to play for pennies compared to what athletes today played for. They have forgotten that it USED to be about the love of the game and money was just a nice side benefit. People can call me pathetic, hypocritical, or anything else all they want....but many of the responses in this thread and other Hedo threads are great examples of how the almighty dollar rules so many lives. Rasheed and Artest both have said it's about winning, not the money. They both realize they are set for life and a few extra million is a definite WANT not a NEED. Hedo hasn't figured that out. Either he has an extremely materialistic lifestyle or he is obsessed with becoming Turkey's richest man. Either way, I'd take a player with Rasheed's attitude over Hedo's any day of the week. Why don't you give up 10% of your salery and give it away. I'll miss Turk but could you honestly say you would give up 10 million dollars so you could get a ring worth a couple of grand?

This is just a stupid post. Go get a bunch of people who think like you and work for free for the magic so they can cut cost to spend more money. You don't want to work for free? Your being cheap dont you care for this team.

I've been thinking about this, I love Turk but do we really want him back. When he is up he's up but when he's down ugh! With the money we wouldspend on him why not spend it on other really quality players instead and set us up for the future. I think getting some other quality roleplayers is the way to go.

What I heard it was 36M even if it was 35M Hedos agents must have said they would not go near that because why would Otis not try to get him for 36M then. Otis must of thought that Hedo was in the realm of 50M and that he wasn't going much further down. So what does Otis do, he gets us a piece that makes us better and see's what happens to Turk. Imagine if he didn't get hedo and didn't get anyone who could play at his level, you would call him incompetent.