Shine88
-
Content Count
5,185 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
15
Posts posted by Shine88
-
-
Just seen it on ESPN per Stephen A. Smith.
-
Just seen it on ESPN per Stephen A. Smith.
-
quote:Originally posted by cunningstunt:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by rtillaree:no, when your starters play that well and are healthy, there is no need for a bench...Unfortunately outside of MAYBE Dwight, we will have many nights where this is more the exception than the rule...it's hard to get 5 guys fully in sync like this night in and night out...we really need more production from that bench...it's going to pose a major issue for us...I think the more important issue is not so much the #'s that the bench puts up, but snapping out of this tepid state we are in...I think we will get it worked out...I wont panic until mid December...
I noticed last night after checking out some stats that Toronto appears to be in the same boat, excellent production from the starters, nothing from their bench...should be interesting once we play them this year...
Kapono and Bargnani alone, give the Raptors bench 20 to 25 points a night, and Bargnani
also give them rebound and block too, matter of fact he lead the team in block.
We have one of the worst benches in the league, but if Redick and Bogans start hitting there shot, we should be alright.
i had barganani, or however you spell it, on my fantasy squad last year, he's very moody, i've seen games where he will drain all of his 3'a and have 15 pts off the bench, but most of the time he can play 20 minutes and not score a point, commit turnovers, and really not hustle at all, you'd think sometimes a guy's numbers in the box score means he's an emotional leader/hustler on the floor so he gets time, but the kid can seriously dissappear at times.
I picked up Bargnani this year in fantasy for his rebounds and blocks.
-
quote:In every situation where he has checked in, he has substituted for Hedo with Pietrus moving over to the 3 spot. JJ the runs with the starters for several minutes before AJ & Battie check in.I agree that his shot needs to be respected, but even the best 3pt shooters are effective about 40% of the time. Therefore, I don't think that his offensive game as a whole is that well respected, considering that he hasn't been running off of screens for mid-range jump shots, and has no game going to the basket of the dribble.
Redick is only taking 3 to 4 shots a game, and it kind of hard to find a rhythm, when your not shooting the ball alot. Like Stan said all he need is for one shot to fall, and he be alright.
-
quote:I think that he has violated the TOS more than one time in his monday case.You'll have to check your PM soon.:=)
LOL
-
quote:Originally posted by cunningstunt:i think the biggest point smack was trying to make was that jj shouldn't be the first one off the bench after peitrus. i'll agree with that, if jj can get his shots off and make them that's great, but just not the first one off the bench, especially if we haven't seen c. lee or richardson have the same time.
judging off jj's box score in the preseason i'd have him in the rotation at some point as well, but by now i'd make sure one of the other 3 sg's we have on the bench would crack the rotation a little sooner than jj.
i just don't like the idea of this jj experiment costing us any more games.
The reason why Redick is the first guard off the bench, is to give the 2nd unit that offensive spark with his shooting. I know his shot aren't falling, but he still a threat to opposing teams with his shooting.
-
quote:Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:His refusal to push the ball is making me lose what little hair I have left. AJ is 100 yrs old and he pushes the ball up the floor, why does Jameer refuse to do this? Last game our offense started to stall and I started watching the shot clock. The offense stalling coincided with Jameer slowing down, 2 straight possesion where we looked out of whack he didn't give up the ball till about 11 on the shot clock. What the heck is he doing for the other 13 seconds?? Once he started doing it Stan called a time out and I can only assume he talked to him about it because when he came back he got rid of it sooner in the shot clock. Why does our coach have to remind him to move the ball??
I know it's early in the year but it's been the same story with Jameer and our pg's in general for a long time now. We need Jameer to wake up or AJ to reverse age 5 yrs or we need someone to come in and push the ball because the offense is completely different when we do.
I know what you mean, he definitely need to push the ball up the court, maybe he can learn a lesson from D.Rose tonight. That kid seem like he's faster with the ball in his hand.
-
quote:Mickael Pietrus. (Note to David Steele & Matty Guokas. It's Mickael. Not Michael! Geez.Okay, who saw this coming? MP scored 20 points in 2 out of the first 3 games. Now, he had a bad game against Memphis thanks to massive foul trouble, but that's how good he was in the other two games. Against ATL he also had 3 boards, an assist, and a block while against the Kings he also had 4 boards, 2 assists, and a steal. His defense has been good, better than SVG will admit, but he hasn't been a defensive stopper. He's made some mistakes of being overly aggressive that he needs to correct. But still, he's clearly over performed most people's expectations.)
MP is next in line, for a breakout year under Stan.
-
hoopsworld is saying the samething about MP.
quote:Pietrus Struggling in OrlandoIt isn't a surprise to hear that Mickael Pietrus is struggling to "grasp the scheme" in Orlando. Pietrus left the Golden State Warriors' free-wheeling system and it seems only natural that he'd have a hard time adjusting to the mental challenges of Stan Van Gundy's structured play.
But the mental part of the game wasn't always easy for Pietrus with the Warriors, as he was constantly told to do something different. In five years with the Warriors, Pietrus played for three different coaches and current Warriors' head coach Don Nelson would give Pietrus mixed messages in having him play almost every position on the floor, assuming different responsibilities based on where he was needed.
Granted, that's sort of the beauty of Pietrus' versatility and athleticism
-
quote:Originally posted by rtillaree:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by rtillaree:no, when your starters play that well and are healthy, there is no need for a bench...Unfortunately outside of MAYBE Dwight, we will have many nights where this is more the exception than the rule...it's hard to get 5 guys fully in sync like this night in and night out...we really need more production from that bench...it's going to pose a major issue for us...I think the more important issue is not so much the #'s that the bench puts up, but snapping out of this tepid state we are in...I think we will get it worked out...I wont panic until mid December...
I noticed last night after checking out some stats that Toronto appears to be in the same boat, excellent production from the starters, nothing from their bench...should be interesting once we play them this year...
Kapono and Bargnani alone, give the Raptors bench 20 to 25 points a night, and Bargnani
also give them rebound and block too, matter of fact he lead the team in block.
We have one of the worst benches in the league, but if Redick and Bogans start hitting there shot, we should be alright.
Game 1: Kapono 15pts/Bargs 0pts
Game 2: Kapono 5pts/Bargs 19pts
Game 3: Kapono 9pts/Bargs 0pts
pretty inconsistent...
over the course of the first 3 games
Toronto's bench scoring is 19ppg, Orlando's is 13ppg, these two teams are both close to the bottom in bench scoring as it stands right now at this infant stage in the season...the only reason Toronto is averaging 19 is because Bargs had one "big" game...
But Bargnani does other thing to help the team out too, he averages 5 rebound and lead the team in block with 2 a game. I wish Battie would put up those kind of numbers for our bench.
-
quote:Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:He passed up a few entry passes into Dwight against the Kings, I think he is still learning a lot of things out there. You can see him thinking about things instead of just reacting, I'm sure all of this is going to come together for him.
Exactly, Redick is thinking way to much out there, he just needs to find his rhythm out there, and he'll be fine.
-
quote:Originally posted by magic berto:I really don't dislike Bogans, he's actually a decent enough back-up, but why he's called in key plays instead of Pietrus really boggles my mind.I really don't dislike Bogans, he's actually a decent enough back-up, but why he's called in key plays instead of Pietrus really boggles my mind.
Never was a big SVG fan, but I hope he gets things going quick with Pietrus and Lee.
The world may never know. I see Walter Herrmann is off to a good start in Detroit.
-
Jameer has to drive to the hole more, it will open up the offense to score more, because he will have the option to dish it to Howard or kick it out for the 3, and he will become a threat to opposing teams.
-
Lee must not be showing Stan that he's ready in practice. That was the problem with Redick last year. They were saying Bogans was looking like Jordan in practice last season, while Redick was guarding him.
-
quote:Originally posted by FENDI:Why is this option not even being looked out? We need a 3rd PG. JJ plays with a high IQ, not to mention he can be the tall PG we need. He also has a pretty good handles. I think this would solve our problem of his having PT and not worry about him being a liability on defense.
Is he quick? Basing on his pre-draft camp measurements he is. Even if he is not, there have been a few championship PG that is not really lightning quick. Sam Cassell or Kenny Smith is a good example.
Sure his length is pretty short, but how short can it get? He has at least 6'2 wingspan to begin with and someone who plays with fire and determination. I think he'd be a pretty good defender at the point since his length won't be much of a disadvantage like his defense on SG players.
This will never happen, Redick ball handling is very shaky, it best for Redick to stay on the wing.
-
Ben Gordon will light it up tomorrow. Jameer will have his hand full tomorrow.
-
We should put MP on Rose, because Rose will get to the hole constantly on Jameer.
-
quote:Originally posted by Blackhennie:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by ball junkie:I taped last night's game so after re-watching it today I decided I would observe each Magic defensive set in the 1st quarter as pertains to J.J. Redick. J.J. enters the game when the score is 18-15 in favor of the Magic.
1st set: Redick gaurds K. Martin - Martin cuts toward sideline to get ball - Redick follows - Martin cuts backdoor and receives the pass - J.J. loses him - Magic defense is in help and recover mode - Kings score after a couple of extra passes.
2nd set: K. Martin beats J.J. off the dribble - goes to the hole - Martin kicks the ball out when Dwight comes over to help - Kings score.
3rd set: K. Martin has J.J. isolated at top of key - goes right by him to the hole - Dwight comes over to alter his shot - Redick rebounds the miss.
4th set: J.J. on Martin - Udrih hits a "3" - Martin doesn't touch ball.
5th set: Offensive foul Kings - J.J.'s man doesn't touch ball.
6th set: J.J. on Martin - Martin iso's J.J. at the top of the key - Martin shakes and bakes - gets J.J. backpeddling - hits a barely contested elbow jumper over J.J.
7th set: Martin doesn't touch ball.
8th set: J.J. now gaurding Q. Douby - he doesn't touch ball,
9th set: Douby touches ball once but passes it.
10 set: Last possession of quarter - Kings give the ball to Douby to isolate Redick at the top of the key - Douby easily gets by Redick and attempts a floater that Dwight contests and causes a miss - Douby gets the rebound and scores but shot is ruled no good because time expired.
J.J. left the game after about 4 or 5 more minutes in the 2nd quarter...score when he left was 42-39 in favor of Magic...Magic go on a run after Redick departs to lead at halftime...59-49.
Lastly, there was a very interesting discussion about J.J. on the TV telecast last night between David Steele and Matty Goukas...I didn't realize it until watching the replay today. Here's how it went...this is pretty much word for word:
Steele: J.J. is a 3rd year player out of Duke and the former college player of the year...
Goukas: That's usually the "tell all year"...J.J. was a high draft choice...a lottery pick at Number 11...whether or not someone will be a player in the league...you don't see too many players that hang around longer than 3 years then all of a sudden find their game or find the right team.
Steele: That's a good point...especially for a guy that played 4 years of major college basketball in the ACC.
Goukas: If J.J. were on a team like Memphis...it'd be a whole different story...
Steele: He'd get minutes...
Goukas: They had a guy like Juan Carlos Navarro...J.J. could a lot the things he could do and be a very effective player.
Goukas: When you're on a team that is expected to win 50 -55 games...for young guys...if you don't have it...you're just not gonna get playing time.
Steele: To this point Stan stuck with his rotation...we'll see what the future holds.
Don't know if anyone has noticed but for the record...J. Crittenton has been placed on the inactive list for the Griz the last couple of games.
Is he a point...or a shooting guard? Don't know and don't care. Otis has said he isn't necessarily looking for a point but for an energy guy...Crit would be perfect!
Even if he isn't a great distributor(which I think he could be) he could certainly handle the ball...and the big thing is...HE IS ATHLETIC AND CAN DEFEND THE POINT GUARD POSITION...something we don't have at this point.
cut it out ball junkie, the whole bench has been playing poorly, and by the way your boy bogans, has been getting disrespected in the 4th quarter.
the problem is that jj is in the game to score and he is not doing it. bogans is not in the game to score, he is a defender. So if neither player is going to scorer much, the coach should use the best defender.
I know jj can play better offense then this but his time is fading fast.
Bogans is a terrible defender, and by the way Bogans is in the game to score too.
-
quote:Originally posted by rtillaree:no, when your starters play that well and are healthy, there is no need for a bench...Unfortunately outside of MAYBE Dwight, we will have many nights where this is more the exception than the rule...it's hard to get 5 guys fully in sync like this night in and night out...we really need more production from that bench...it's going to pose a major issue for us...I think the more important issue is not so much the #'s that the bench puts up, but snapping out of this tepid state we are in...I think we will get it worked out...I wont panic until mid December...
I noticed last night after checking out some stats that Toronto appears to be in the same boat, excellent production from the starters, nothing from their bench...should be interesting once we play them this year...
Kapono and Bargnani alone, give the Raptors bench 20 to 25 points a night, and Bargnani
also give them rebound and block too, matter of fact he lead the team in block.
We have one of the worst benches in the league, but if Redick and Bogans start hitting there shot, we should be alright.
-
quote:Originally posted by ball junkie:I taped last night's game so after re-watching it today I decided I would observe each Magic defensive set in the 1st quarter as pertains to J.J. Redick. J.J. enters the game when the score is 18-15 in favor of the Magic.
1st set: Redick gaurds K. Martin - Martin cuts toward sideline to get ball - Redick follows - Martin cuts backdoor and receives the pass - J.J. loses him - Magic defense is in help and recover mode - Kings score after a couple of extra passes.
2nd set: K. Martin beats J.J. off the dribble - goes to the hole - Martin kicks the ball out when Dwight comes over to help - Kings score.
3rd set: K. Martin has J.J. isolated at top of key - goes right by him to the hole - Dwight comes over to alter his shot - Redick rebounds the miss.
4th set: J.J. on Martin - Udrih hits a "3" - Martin doesn't touch ball.
5th set: Offensive foul Kings - J.J.'s man doesn't touch ball.
6th set: J.J. on Martin - Martin iso's J.J. at the top of the key - Martin shakes and bakes - gets J.J. backpeddling - hits a barely contested elbow jumper over J.J.
7th set: Martin doesn't touch ball.
8th set: J.J. now gaurding Q. Douby - he doesn't touch ball,
9th set: Douby touches ball once but passes it.
10 set: Last possession of quarter - Kings give the ball to Douby to isolate Redick at the top of the key - Douby easily gets by Redick and attempts a floater that Dwight contests and causes a miss - Douby gets the rebound and scores but shot is ruled no good because time expired.
J.J. left the game after about 4 or 5 more minutes in the 2nd quarter...score when he left was 42-39 in favor of Magic...Magic go on a run after Redick departs to lead at halftime...59-49.
Lastly, there was a very interesting discussion about J.J. on the TV telecast last night between David Steele and Matty Goukas...I didn't realize it until watching the replay today. Here's how it went...this is pretty much word for word:
Steele: J.J. is a 3rd year player out of Duke and the former college player of the year...
Goukas: That's usually the "tell all year"...J.J. was a high draft choice...a lottery pick at Number 11...whether or not someone will be a player in the league...you don't see too many players that hang around longer than 3 years then all of a sudden find their game or find the right team.
Steele: That's a good point...especially for a guy that played 4 years of major college basketball in the ACC.
Goukas: If J.J. were on a team like Memphis...it'd be a whole different story...
Steele: He'd get minutes...
Goukas: They had a guy like Juan Carlos Navarro...J.J. could a lot the things he could do and be a very effective player.
Goukas: When you're on a team that is expected to win 50 -55 games...for young guys...if you don't have it...you're just not gonna get playing time.
Steele: To this point Stan stuck with his rotation...we'll see what the future holds.
Don't know if anyone has noticed but for the record...J. Crittenton has been placed on the inactive list for the Griz the last couple of games.
Is he a point...or a shooting guard? Don't know and don't care. Otis has said he isn't necessarily looking for a point but for an energy guy...Crit would be perfect!
Even if he isn't a great distributor(which I think he could be) he could certainly handle the ball...and the big thing is...HE IS ATHLETIC AND CAN DEFEND THE POINT GUARD POSITION...something we don't have at this point.
cut it out ball junkie, the whole bench has been playing poorly, and by the way your boy bogans, has been getting disrespected in the 4th quarter.
-
quote:Originally posted by cunningstunt:quote:Originally posted by truth393:Redick will be fine, he's just hasn't gotten into his rythm yet, and neither has any of the other rotation guys.
if we're going to build another undersized guard so we can get beaten by detroit again, then i might as well see if i can join the team. remember chauncy and stuckey are 6'3 and 6'5 (stuckey played sg in college) and we're not even going to discuss what rip would do to jj on the floor. as of right now and forever, mind you, forever is pretty infinite, bogans > jj. and he should be the one first off the bench, then c. lee and probably richardson at that. i don't know about c. lee, but richardson will be one of those guys who the magic overlook and will end up blowing up somewhere else because he can't crack the lineup with people like jj here.
and congrats to peitrus, if he wasn't here then some idiot would want jj to start. hey i have an idea lets run my 5'11 pg and my 6'4 sg against a league where th pg height is closer to 6'2, and sg's can get up to 6'7, and yeah they're probably still alot faster than jj, at least nelson has great handles, a shot, and is just straight up fast.
What are you talking about, Bogans was getting destoryed in the 4th quarter the first two games. Joe Johnson and Rudy Gay was doing whatever they wanted, went Bogans was on them.
-
Redick will be fine, he's just hasn't gotten into his rythm yet, and neither has any of the other rotation guys.
-
Stan still has the jury out on his rotation, I think once he set his rotation, our bench will be solid.
-
quote:Originally posted by Nyce_1:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by rtillaree:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by rtillaree:quote:Originally posted by Nyce_1:Look out for Thompson. If he was on the board, it was going to come down to him or Lee on draft night. The kid put up 18/10 his first nba game. wish we were able to get him too.
actually Orlando was intent on drafting Lee with the #22 and dealing with Utah or SAS for their pick to nab Thompson...
Otis was high on Speight, he never mention anything about Thompson. If Speight was available, he would've been a Magic.
he may have taken Speights, but they (he and Dave) were very high on Thompson, Dave followed him to another workout with a different team...sorry you didnt read that in the Sentinel or on FL Today...but, it's legit...I like how you reply to the majority of my posts...makes me feel special...
I redd just about every article about the Magic before the draft, and the only names that kept popping up was Speights, C-Lee, and CDR. If Thompson was on Otis radar, he was listed behind the 3 players listed above, and by the way Otis was looking for a 2nd round pick, not a 1st.
you should know by now that Otis tries hard not to let his cards get into the papers. He was was very high on Thompson, and rtillaree is right, we were trying to make a deal for a late first to grab him.
Yeah he always try to play his cards close, but most of the time his information leak out, and Otis probably was after Thompson, but he had Speights rated higher on his draft board. You should've seen the look on his face in the war room, when Speights was pick at 18th by Philly.
moving along, did anybody see Danny Granger two front teeth, he look like he just got out the ring with Kimbo Slice. I know the first thing he buying with his new contract, is his two front teeth.
Breaking News: The Pistons trade Billups and McDyess to the Nuggets for Iverson.
in Around the NBA/Globe Game
Posted · Report reply
It a official, there going to annouce it in a little while. Stephen A. Smith just broke it on ESPN.