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quote:The Pistons signed guard Richard Hamilton to a three-year, $34 million contract extension on Monday, according to ESPN's Chad Ford.The first two years of the deal are guaranteed, while the third is partially guaranteed. Hamilton might sacrifice a few shots now that Allen Iverson is a Piston, and owners need to worry about the possible pairing of A.I. and Rodney Stuckey, which could eventually shift Rip to the bench. For now, revel in the job security and hope he gels with Iverson.
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I wonder why Gortat isn't getting any mins, I thought he was suppose to get alot of mins this year.
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It good that we got the win tonite, but we have to learn how to keep the lead.
On another note, Marc Gasol is killing the Warriors right now. He has 25 points 13 rebounds, and 3 blocks. I see why the Lakers was trying to keep him out of the Pau Gasol trade.
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quote:Originally posted by ThisIsTheYear:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by Skywise316:Detroit is done as far as winning a championship this year.. Smack's right that this is a great move for the long term of the Pistons, but not so much for this year. Iverson's a great player, but he's a shooting guard in a point guard's body. There's no way he keeps everyone involved like Chauncey has up there. Not to mention losing McDyess hurts their big man depth, now there's a heck of a lot more pressure on Jason Maxiell, who's play is streaky, and Amir Johnson. Also someone's gonna take a back seat.. will it continue to be Stuckey, or will it be Richard Hamilton?
I really see Detroit taking a step back this season, but benefiting in the long term.. and by long term I mean as soon as just next season. More Sportscenter highlights and at least a few less wins.
Basically, there's every reason to cautiously celebrate in Boston, Orlando, and Cleveland.
What is there for us celebrate, AI is still capable of dropping 25 points and 7 assists a night. I say teams should hold the celebration until June.
My my, for a name like "truth", you sure seem reluctant to accept it. Allen isn't going to average large numbers in Detroit. Throughout his career, he's been placed on teams that have given him the freedom to shoot 20+ shots a night, and do you know why? Despite their miracle final's run where they faced the Lakers, Philly's always been a slightly above average team. They drafted the guy #1, therefor they clearly had faith in him. Then he left for Denver, or should I say, Enver, because they focus solely on offense, and play no "D".
He's in Detroit now, an incredibly disciplined, defensive minded team, with players who already grasp the "team" concept of the game. You think Rip, Tay, and even worst of all, Sheed, are going to stand idly and watch AI isolate and take his man one-on-one all night? Not to mention under Michael Curry, as well?!
Not a chance, bud. His production is going to take a pretty severe dip if Detroit is even willing to put up with him.
The Pistons are doing alot of iso with Prince this year, so why wouldn't they do it with AI? And FYI Curry doesn't call the shot, Joe D does.
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quote:Originally posted by Skywise316:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by Skywise316:Detroit is done as far as winning a championship this year.. Smack's right that this is a great move for the long term of the Pistons, but not so much for this year. Iverson's a great player, but he's a shooting guard in a point guard's body. There's no way he keeps everyone involved like Chauncey has up there. Not to mention losing McDyess hurts their big man depth, now there's a heck of a lot more pressure on Jason Maxiell, who's play is streaky, and Amir Johnson. Also someone's gonna take a back seat.. will it continue to be Stuckey, or will it be Richard Hamilton?
I really see Detroit taking a step back this season, but benefiting in the long term.. and by long term I mean as soon as just next season. More Sportscenter highlights and at least a few less wins.
Basically, there's every reason to cautiously celebrate in Boston, Orlando, and Cleveland.
What is there for us celebrate, AI is still capable of dropping 25 points and 7 assists a night. I say teams should hold the celebration until June.
What is there to celebrate?
You don't really think A.I. is half the floor general Billups is, do you? A.I. may get his 25 and 7, but what about the rest of that team? Not to mention he's a weaker defender than Billups as well.
And what's the sense of cutting Juwan Howard if McDyess isn't gonna play for them? I'll make a semi-bold prediction that McDyess stays on that roster and more importantly, becomes a part of Denver's rotation.
Stuckey will get majority of the mins at PG, and I think Detroit will play alot of small ball, with Stuckey and AI in the backcourt and Rip, Prince, and Sheed in the frontcourt.
AI isn't a better floor general than Billups, but with the Pistons being at the top of the league in blocks and defensive rebound, they'll be alot better on fast break with AI.
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quote:Originally posted by Skywise316:Speaking of a 15-man roster, there's something I don't understand.
Why are we retaining the services of Mike Wilks when he was on a non-guaranteed contract and he's out for the season? Why not just cut him and work with a 14-man roster?
I agree, it make no sense at all.
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quote:Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:I hear Juwan Howard is being waived by the Nuggets. I guess they are going to keep Dice then.
from rotoworld.com
The Nuggets waived F Juwan Howard on Monday.
He was waived to make room for Antonio McDyess, who will probably never play for the Nuggets. So don't be surprised to see Howard work his way back onto the Nuggets roster at some point this season.
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quote:Originally posted by Skywise316:Detroit is done as far as winning a championship this year.. Smack's right that this is a great move for the long term of the Pistons, but not so much for this year. Iverson's a great player, but he's a shooting guard in a point guard's body. There's no way he keeps everyone involved like Chauncey has up there. Not to mention losing McDyess hurts their big man depth, now there's a heck of a lot more pressure on Jason Maxiell, who's play is streaky, and Amir Johnson. Also someone's gonna take a back seat.. will it continue to be Stuckey, or will it be Richard Hamilton?
I really see Detroit taking a step back this season, but benefiting in the long term.. and by long term I mean as soon as just next season. More Sportscenter highlights and at least a few less wins.
Basically, there's every reason to cautiously celebrate in Boston, Orlando, and Cleveland.
What is there for us celebrate, AI is still capable of dropping 25 points and 7 assists a night. I say teams should hold the celebration until June.
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quote:Originally posted by Howard:Spurs didnt win any game and the Cav has the same record as the Magic.....they both ranked higher than us.
The Cavs lost to two good teams though.
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quote:Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:quote:Originally posted by Lewis4thewin:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by Lewis4thewin:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by ThisIsTheYear:No more Billups?! I'm so happy.
Stuckey was the one who killed us last year in the playoff.
stucky never "killed" us at all. he scored in double figures twice and never scored over 20 ppg. When he did score 19, he shot 38.5%. He also doesnt have a 3 point shot. Hamilton killed us.
And that was the two games he started against us, so what does that tell you.
Wrong again. his 19 point performance was the game billups got injured. In that game he shot 38.5%. We won that game by 25.
His first start against us he went 2-7 had 6 points and 5 fouls.
the final game in the series he had 15 points and 6 assists but in no way does that statline have the same impact as hamiltons 31 points and 4 steals.
Therefore, you are wrong.
Reality has a distinct bias. You should focus on the truthiness, and not the truth.
and you should practice what you preach my brother.
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quote:Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by Lewis4thewin:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by ThisIsTheYear:No more Billups?! I'm so happy.
Stuckey was the one who killed us last year in the playoff.
stucky never "killed" us at all. he scored in double figures twice and never scored over 20 ppg. When he did score 19, he shot 38.5%. He also doesnt have a 3 point shot. Hamilton killed us.
And that was the two games he started against us, so what does that tell you.
Chauncey is such a nightmare because of how he runs the offense and hits timely shots while defending, not because he puts up a lot of points.
Chauncey lost his step a bit, he always played great basketball against us, because we never had anybody that can guard him, but Rondo put a stop to him in the ECF last year.
But it's still a win/win trade for both teams, because Iverson becomes the go-to scorer Dumars desires and Billups provides Denver the steady hand for a team looking to rebuild.
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quote:Originally posted by Lewis4thewin:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by ThisIsTheYear:No more Billups?! I'm so happy.
Stuckey was the one who killed us last year in the playoff.
stucky never "killed" us at all. he scored in double figures twice and never scored over 20 ppg. When he did score 19, he shot 38.5%. He also doesnt have a 3 point shot. Hamilton killed us.
And that was the two games he started against us, so what does that tell you.
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quote:Originally posted by ThisIsTheYear:No more Billups?! I'm so happy.
Stuckey was the one who killed us last year in the playoff.
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quote:I know it's hard, Magic fans, but you should consider doing research before you post your opinion on the internet.DOM, you need a taste of your own medicine, because you just posted that Granger was a free agent after this season, when he just signed a 5 year extension last week.
So you my friend should try doing a little more research before posting.
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quote:Originally posted by ClaytonMagic:PG Stuckey
SG Iverson
SF Prince
PF Amir J.
C Wallace
Would they bring Billups off the bench, if they do its looking pretty good!
I think AI and Rip will start in the backcourt, but Stuckey will play alot of mins at the PG too.
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quote:Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:quote:Originally posted by SmackDaddy:Stuckey looked darn good in the postseason last year. They've been grooming him to be their Billups replacement, so maybe they think it's time that he was handed the reigns. Sheed is also getting older and struggled last year in the postseason.
I don't know that Detroit will be able to their success from the last 4 years, but having an affordable, young core with 30 million to spend is a great way to rebuild.
I agree completely but don't you agree that Sheed and Chauncey bring some else to the table other than just their x's and o's? I don't even know how to describe it but it seems like when those guys are on the floor the plays that could go either way always seem to go the Pistons' way. I have no doubt Stuckey can run that team but I would have bet the farm that Chauncey would hit a 3 if we were up by 1 with 10seconds left. Sheed was dangerous because he could play D anywhere on the court, shoot the 3 and score at will in the post (when he felt like it). They will be a good team and compete but I don't dread seeing them without those guys.
The Pistons felt that they weren't losing much by dealing Billups, because they had Stuckey, and now that they'll be getting McDyess back, the Pistons won on this deal hand down.
Billups will allow the Nuggets to start J.R. Smith at the SG, and he also will make Melo alot better, but there going to be in cap trouble for awhile. I wonder what the Nuggets are going to do whith that 10 million trade exception, that they got for the Camby trade?
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quote:Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:Some rumors say that McDyess will be cut and will resign with Detroit. I thought they couldn't do that, or they have to wait a month after the trade? Didn't Stackhouse try and do that last year?
yeah they'll have to wait 30 days to sign him.
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quote:Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:
I wouldn't say that. I forget AI was expiring though, so I guess that makes sense. I just don't see why he did this trade this early in the season. Did he really feel Detroit had nothing left to give it one last run?quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:Wow. I don't get it. They still have Hamilton on that team correct? Stuckey is more of a combo guard, so who is going to pass the ball? I just don't get this trade.
Does anyone else think this makes the Pistons alot less scary? No tough minded PG in Billups and McDyess to bang down low?
It make both teams better.
McDyess became expendable, with the play of Herrmann, Maxiell, and Johnson, and Joe D has been trying to move Billup all summer.
There's a substantial difference between a trade making both teams better and a trade having good value for both teams. Essentially, this trade, if it goes through, will be the Pistons way of demonstrating that they recognize that their title window is closed, and lets them compete in actively in the FA market this coming offseason(not the Lebron year, unless the put off using their 20m in capspace for a year.
They'll have 30 millon off the book after this season, and Joe D isn't going to spend alot of money this summer, because there really isn't much out there this summer, so you would think that he's waiting for 2010, when players like James, Bosh, and Wade hit the market.
As for AI, he'll give them instant scoring from the PG spot.
Kobe Bryant is a free agent after this year. So are Boozer, David Lee, Danny Granger, Marion, Artest, Odom, and aging Jason Kidd. Now that might not have the Star power at the top as Lebron/Wade with special guest Chris Bosh, but it is a solid lineup of stars within Detroit's age class, with younger stars and solid players like Granger and Lee in it as well. Also: Kobe Bryant.
Danny Granger signed a five year extension last week. You need a taste of your own medicine, because you posting thing without even knowing the fact my friend.
The Lakers are set to make Kobe the highest paid player in the league, so there no way he leave the Lakers.
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quote:Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:Boozer and Turk are possible FA in 2009 if Joe D wanted to go that route.
Iverson plays crappy man D, doesn't fit in any offense that isn't wide open or built around him and plays the same spot as 2 of their guys that they probably want to keep around. I almost wonder if they don't do something similar to how they ended up with Sheed.
If Boozer decide to leave Utah, it be South Beach for him, and with Joe D making Prince his go to guy this season, I don't see them going after Turk. This move was made for the 2010 free agent class.
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quote:Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:They must have felt like Stuckey is ready to run point full time. Even with Stuckey there I'm a lot less scared of them without Chauncey. He was the one that always seemed to screw us.
I wonder if there is another trade in the works here. AI at point? I can't see it. At the 2 where do you put Rip? If you put him at the 3 where do you put Tayshaun? It's a good move it you feel like Chauncey is done soon because they will be able to rebuild on the fly but I don't see them as championship contenders anymore.
Yeah this trade has Stuckey written all over it.
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quote:Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:
I wouldn't say that. I forget AI was expiring though, so I guess that makes sense. I just don't see why he did this trade this early in the season. Did he really feel Detroit had nothing left to give it one last run?quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:Wow. I don't get it. They still have Hamilton on that team correct? Stuckey is more of a combo guard, so who is going to pass the ball? I just don't get this trade.
Does anyone else think this makes the Pistons alot less scary? No tough minded PG in Billups and McDyess to bang down low?
It make both teams better.
McDyess became expendable, with the play of Herrmann, Maxiell, and Johnson, and Joe D has been trying to move Billup all summer.
There's a substantial difference between a trade making both teams better and a trade having good value for both teams. Essentially, this trade, if it goes through, will be the Pistons way of demonstrating that they recognize that their title window is closed, and lets them compete in actively in the FA market this coming offseason(not the Lebron year, unless the put off using their 20m in capspace for a year.
They'll have 30 millon off the book after this season, and Joe D isn't going to spend alot of money this summer, because there really isn't much out there this summer, so you would think that he's waiting for 2010, when players like James, Bosh, and Wade hit the market.
As for AI, he'll give them instant scoring from the PG spot.
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quote:Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:
I wouldn't say that. I forget AI was expiring though, so I guess that makes sense. I just don't see why he did this trade this early in the season. Did he really feel Detroit had nothing left to give it one last run?quote:Originally posted by truth393:quote:Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:Wow. I don't get it. They still have Hamilton on that team correct? Stuckey is more of a combo guard, so who is going to pass the ball? I just don't get this trade.
Does anyone else think this makes the Pistons alot less scary? No tough minded PG in Billups and McDyess to bang down low?
It make both teams better.
McDyess became expendable, with the play of Herrmann, Maxiell, and Johnson, and Joe D has been trying to move Billup all summer.
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quote:Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:Wow. I don't get it. They still have Hamilton on that team correct? Stuckey is more of a combo guard, so who is going to pass the ball? I just don't get this trade.
Does anyone else think this makes the Pistons alot less scary? No tough minded PG in Billups and McDyess to bang down low?
It make both teams better.
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quote:Originally posted by TrueMagicFan07:quote:Originally posted by truth393:It a official, there going to annouce it in a little while. Stephen A. Smith just broke it on ESPN.
It's true. Just saw it at the bottom of the screen on ESPN. They are getting ready to announce it.
Joe Dumar is a genius, he'll have over 30 million off the book next year just off of AI and Wallace alone. You might want to add the Pistons to the 2010 LeBron sweepstake.
Is anyone tired of Hedo's fourth quarter heroics?
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I'm kind of happy Otis didn't extend Turk contract this summer, because he most likely would've overpaid him.