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  1. quote:
    Originally posted by Kberto:

    quote:
    Originally posted by Skywise316:

    Am I crazy to think that the Knicks just shot themselves in the foot to help themselves in 2010?

     

    Al Harrington, Cuttino Mobley, and Tim Thomas for Zach Randolph, Jamal Crawford, and Mardy Collins total?

     

    I'd say they aren't as good a team today as they were 4 days ago.

     

    They're going all in for Lebron James. There's no doubt they're by far a worse team now, but that's the sacrifice they're making at the hopes of getting Bron. I'm going to laugh my *** off when they suck this year and next year and Lebron stays in Cleveland or plays for the nets.

     

    If they lose out on LeBron, they still can go after Stoudemire, Bosh, or Wade.


  2. quote:
    Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:

    quote:
    Originally posted by truth393:

    I say we should try to make an offer to Golden State, for C.J. Watson or Marcus Williams.

    LOL why? I bet one of those guys gets released anyway.

     

    Why not? Both of them will be a better option at the backup PG spot over AJ.

     

    I doubt they get release. The Warriors gave up an 1st round pick for Williams, and Watson has been playing pretty solid for the Warriors.

     

    DeMarcus Nelson on the otherhand might get release.


  3. quote:
    Originally posted by Skywise316:

    quote:
    Originally posted by truth393:

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    The Golden State Warriors and New York Knicks have agreed in principle on a deal that would swap disgruntled Warriors forward Al Harrington for Knicks guard Jamal Crawford.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3717209

     

    That's the final word and I think the Warriors win that deal. They didn't rob them blind of anything, but they win another deal.

     

    Al Harrington in a D'antoni system should be interesting though.

     

    I think it's a even trade for both teams.


  4. quote:
    Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery:

    quote:
    Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:

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    After dealing Jamal Crawford to the Warriors for Al Harrington, the Knicks are working on a trade that would land Zach Randolph in Dallas.

     

    Jerry Stackhouse has expressed a desire to be traded but his contract is half the value of Randolph's deal.

     

    Unless another player is thrown into the trade, there is a possibility that the Knicks will recruit a third team to make the Randolph deal work.

     

    The Clippers, however, are still hoping to acquire Randolph for Tim Thomas and Cuttino Mobley.

     

    http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55584/20081121/randolph_to_dallas/

     

     

    I guess the Knicks wanted to win a few games before blowing the entire roster up?

     

    Actually, what they did was fairly shrewd. Going into this season, they only had about 3 players with any kind of value trade wise: Lee, Chandler, and Crawford, with it being common knowledge that Crawford's raw numbers exaggerated his abilities.

     

    By coming out, winning, and playing well they drove up their players' values a good amount. If they can dump Randolph in exchange for, lets say Stackhouse and Diop, they've saved themselves about well over 10m in 2010. I think they'd have to wait til 12/15 to make that trade, but you understand my point.

     

    Diop doesn't fit D'Antoni system, nor does his contract fits into Walsh plans.


  5. quote:
    Originally posted by SmackDaddy:

    quote:
    Originally posted by bringithomerashard:

    playing more minutes a game is a big reason. He is a good addition to this team because he is a good defender and can defend the great SG's of the league...other than that whatever he puts in the hoop is a bonus, for a guy that averages 9 points per game for his career we payed him a lot of money.

     

    Was Hedo overpaid when we signed him to an MLE?

    How did that work out?

     

    Exactly, people definitely said that we overpaid Turk back in 2004. I think Hedo will consider between 10-12 mill per year.


  6. quote:
    Originally posted by Drain-O:

    quote:
    Originally posted by truth393:

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    Originally posted by Drain-O:

    Now all the Knicks need is a big billboard in Times Square of Lebron in his Yankees Cap with something along the lines of Coming in 2010.

     

    I have serious doubt about LeBron signing with the Knicks. I just don't see it happening, unless Nike offer him an 8 figure deal to sign with the Knicks.

     

    I do not either. I have been on record as saying Bosh, Wade, Anthony, and Lebron will all stay on their current teams. I do not think Lebron playing in New York is going to make him anymore famous than he is now. Now Zach Randolph in LA is a another story.

     

    Now Bosh might be the one to leave for a bigger market.


  7. quote:
    Originally posted by Drain-O:

    Part of Al's problems in Golden State were that he wanted to start and he wanted big minutes. He is not going to get that on the Magic. So even if they did trade for him he is not starting over Turk or Lewis or really going to cut into their minutes.

     

    I think Don Nelson said he thinks he is a superstar but does not play like one or something like that. I really do not know how you cannot get along with Nellie.

     

    He is a talent for sure and the Knicks give up nothing in Malik Rose so for them its a good move. The only small problem I see is taking minutes away from David Lee and Wilson Chandler but D'Antoni can figure that out.

     

    D'Antoni was going to move Chandler to the starting SF, when Jeffries returns from his injury.


  8. quote:
    Originally posted by SmackDaddy:

    It's always a good thing to have two starting caliber PGs. Injuries and inconsistency dictate that I would rather have Hinrich as a first option compared to Anthony Johnson.

    If Jameer does prove to play this well consistently, then the Magic always have an intrigueing piece to trade away in Hinrich.

     

    9 million for a backup PG, we'll be better off resigning Turk for the that kind of money.


  9. quote:
    After toiling in obscurity, struggling to find minutes, while playing for Don Nelson in Golden State for the last five seasons, Mickael Pietrus went to Orlando as a free agent this summer in search of consistent minutes and a chance to win games.

     

     

    With All-Stars Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis and the winner of the 2008 NBA Most Improved Player Award Hedo Turkoglu already on the roster, Pietrus signed with Orlando following to 2007-08 season with a chance to be a key role player on a Championship contender.

     

     

    "I love playing for the Magic. We have different goals than we did in Golden State," Pietrus said, "which is to get to the championship, and I think we have a great team. For me, just being out there playing the game, coach gives me a lot of confidence and it's all about Coach right now."

     

    Pietrus came into the NBA in 2003 as an established star in France and struggled to fit in to Nelson's up-tempo system with the Warriors despite high expectations for the eleventh overall draft pick.

     

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=10668


  10. quote:
    After toiling in obscurity, struggling to find minutes, while playing for Don Nelson in Golden State for the last five seasons, Mickael Pietrus went to Orlando as a free agent this summer in search of consistent minutes and a chance to win games.

     

     

    With All-Stars Dwight Howard and Rashard Lewis and the winner of the 2008 NBA Most Improved Player Award Hedo Turkoglu already on the roster, Pietrus signed with Orlando following to 2007-08 season with a chance to be a key role player on a Championship contender.

     

     

    "I love playing for the Magic. We have different goals than we did in Golden State," Pietrus said, "which is to get to the championship, and I think we have a great team. For me, just being out there playing the game, coach gives me a lot of confidence and it's all about Coach right now."

     

    Pietrus came into the NBA in 2003 as an established star in France and struggled to fit in to Nelson's up-tempo system with the Warriors despite high expectations for the eleventh overall draft pick.

     

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=10668


  11. quote:
    This afternoon the Charlotte Bobcats waived two players: Andre Brown and Linton Johnson III. A couple of weeks ago this would have raised no eyebbrows. Teams were cutting their rosters down to the required 15 for the start of the regular season. Now, however, it is more than a little suspisious.

     

    There has been plenty of trade talk surrounding the Bobcats, who have made all but public overtures to the New Jersey Nets and the Los Angeles Clippers, and are openly shopping Gerald Wallace in their desire to land a true center to play next to Emeka Okafor.

     

    Now they've suddenly waived two players, taking their roster down to 13.

     

    Sounds like the Bobcats have a taker, and that in the deal they're getting back more players than they're sending out. According to a couple of well-informed sources the Bobcats have been aggressively working the phone lines as they watch their attendance drop in direct proportion to their winning percentage. It sounds like we could see a huge move made by the Bobcats in the next few hours.

     

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=10662

     

    I wonder who's the other team


  12. quote:
    This afternoon the Charlotte Bobcats waived two players: Andre Brown and Linton Johnson III. A couple of weeks ago this would have raised no eyebbrows. Teams were cutting their rosters down to the required 15 for the start of the regular season. Now, however, it is more than a little suspisious.

     

    There has been plenty of trade talk surrounding the Bobcats, who have made all but public overtures to the New Jersey Nets and the Los Angeles Clippers, and are openly shopping Gerald Wallace in their desire to land a true center to play next to Emeka Okafor.

     

    Now they've suddenly waived two players, taking their roster down to 13.

     

    Sounds like the Bobcats have a taker, and that in the deal they're getting back more players than they're sending out. According to a couple of well-informed sources the Bobcats have been aggressively working the phone lines as they watch their attendance drop in direct proportion to their winning percentage. It sounds like we could see a huge move made by the Bobcats in the next few hours.

     

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=10662

     

    I wonder who's the other team


  13. quote:
    Originally posted by echo4papa:

    quote:
    Originally posted by ball junkie:

    quote:
    Originally posted by echo4papa:

    You don't have to to give him any attention, yet you feed the JJ machine just as much, if not more so, than anyone else here. Not that I care, mind you, just find it funny that you would comment on the attention JJ gets.

     

    Interesting that you are being quite negative with me lately...care to comment?

     

    Mommy, Mr BallJunkie is breaking the forum rules by hijacking his own thread. Could you please deal with it.

     

    Seriously.

     

    LOL


  14. quote:
    Originally posted by ball junkie:

    Most of the time I'm on board with Kyler's stuff but I disagree with him on his stance with Crit/Steve Francis comparison.

     

    I think Crit can be more of a distributor than Francis if given time...Crit played point guard in college whereas Francis was one of those tweener guards(don't know if they are a point or shooting guard).

     

    Besides...don't we need a back-up point guard that can get after it defensively and break down defenses? With all the crticism Anthony Johnson gets on this board about his lack of athleticism, Crit is a superb athlete!

     

    I might add he is 6'5.

     

    Interesting though...it could still possibly get done...Memphis is a woeful 3-point shooting team.

     

    I think Memphis want to package Critt in a deal. I just don't see them sending Critt out in a trade by himself.


  15. quote:
    Will in Wilmington,NC:

    When will the Magic trade reddick for j.critt.Will the Magic trade Turk before the deadline if so who do you think they might target?

    Steve Kyler:

    Welcome in all... I hope the day is treating you well... lets get into it...

     

    The Magic are not likely going to trade JJ for JCritt... as much as it seems to fit, that ship has sailed. What I was told several times, and even as early as two weeks ago... Memphis wants two assets for JCritt... Otis is only willing to spend one... Memphis could lower their price, Otis could decide he has a real need... but today, neither of those seem true. The other side is JCritt is not an upgrade - while I love the guy as a person, his game is a lot more Steve Francis like than anyone in Orlando would be comfortable with.

     

    On trading Turk... again, I just do not see it happening, there is too much that he is in that locker room. I really wish I could video tape those guys and how they are, and how much of a central figure he is in the system both on the court and off the court... You remove Hedo from this team, I think they fall apart - there just such an interesting "all for one" thing going on in Orlando, you do not mess with that unless the wheels fall off, which they haven't. I am sticking to this... If Orlando has 13-15 wins at the 20 game mark, this teams stays intact all year.

     

    quote:
    Say the Magic are in the same or close to the same spot in the draft this year and Collison is taken already, do you think Tyler Hansbrough would be a good pick?

    Steve Kyler:

    Absolutely not... I know experts are in love with his motor, love his competive desire and all of that... Otis would be very foolish to draft Tyler, he would not fit into what the Magic are doing...

     

    This year we are partnering with our friends at DraftExpress on Player Rankings for the draft, and our first Mock Draft is up (/the_draft/FullMockDraft.asp) - we have Orlando selecting Jordan Hill - Junior from Arizona, we also have Samardo Samuels from Louisville on the board around Orlando... I also like Tony Woods from Wake Forest - should be in their reach too.

     

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    Doc Vince in Manila, Philippines:

    What's your take if jj redick is traded for either chris quin (miami) or marcus williams (warriors)

    Steve Kyler:

    I think neither player makes Orlando a better team... but JJ is also in the dented can bin... he looked solid last night. I think if Stan can find a few more games like that out of JJ is value will go up... then the names get better... If you haven't seen Marcus Williams play this year, its brutal.... again great guy, just not getting it done for the Warriors.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Chat.asp?CHAT_TOPICS_ID=58


  16. quote:
    Will in Wilmington,NC:

    When will the Magic trade reddick for j.critt.Will the Magic trade Turk before the deadline if so who do you think they might target?

    Steve Kyler:

    Welcome in all... I hope the day is treating you well... lets get into it...

     

    The Magic are not likely going to trade JJ for JCritt... as much as it seems to fit, that ship has sailed. What I was told several times, and even as early as two weeks ago... Memphis wants two assets for JCritt... Otis is only willing to spend one... Memphis could lower their price, Otis could decide he has a real need... but today, neither of those seem true. The other side is JCritt is not an upgrade - while I love the guy as a person, his game is a lot more Steve Francis like than anyone in Orlando would be comfortable with.

     

    On trading Turk... again, I just do not see it happening, there is too much that he is in that locker room. I really wish I could video tape those guys and how they are, and how much of a central figure he is in the system both on the court and off the court... You remove Hedo from this team, I think they fall apart - there just such an interesting "all for one" thing going on in Orlando, you do not mess with that unless the wheels fall off, which they haven't. I am sticking to this... If Orlando has 13-15 wins at the 20 game mark, this teams stays intact all year.

     

    quote:
    Say the Magic are in the same or close to the same spot in the draft this year and Collison is taken already, do you think Tyler Hansbrough would be a good pick?

    Steve Kyler:

    Absolutely not... I know experts are in love with his motor, love his competive desire and all of that... Otis would be very foolish to draft Tyler, he would not fit into what the Magic are doing...

     

    This year we are partnering with our friends at DraftExpress on Player Rankings for the draft, and our first Mock Draft is up (/the_draft/FullMockDraft.asp) - we have Orlando selecting Jordan Hill - Junior from Arizona, we also have Samardo Samuels from Louisville on the board around Orlando... I also like Tony Woods from Wake Forest - should be in their reach too.

     

    quote:
    Doc Vince in Manila, Philippines:

    What's your take if jj redick is traded for either chris quin (miami) or marcus williams (warriors)

    Steve Kyler:

    I think neither player makes Orlando a better team... but JJ is also in the dented can bin... he looked solid last night. I think if Stan can find a few more games like that out of JJ is value will go up... then the names get better... If you haven't seen Marcus Williams play this year, its brutal.... again great guy, just not getting it done for the Warriors.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Chat.asp?CHAT_TOPICS_ID=58

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