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    9 minutes ago, TreyMachine said:

    The only depressing thing is that this a top 5 player draft it feels like. We tend to always draft the number just outside of the "top player" window - like the draft where trae young went in front of Mo Bamba.

    Nah, it's more like a top 3 draft, which is why Detroit and Houston are sick right now.

    I think we should package 6 and 11 to Portland for 3 and one of their bad contract.

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    3 hours ago, A Better DJ & Photographer said:

    Our current management fleeced Philly on the Fultz deal. They fleeced Chicago on the Vuc deal. (WCJ and the Frantz pick were already a steal.) I wonder which team they will fleece in the off season this year?

    Philly made out alright in that deal, because we ended up trading them back their draft pick, which ended up being Tyrese Maxey.

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    3 hours ago, Jason Funderburker said:

    I do t really think it is giving up on them outside of whichever you are including in the deal. They have different skill sets than Mitchell does. 

    you say deep playoff runs need more than scoring, but neither the Celtics nor warriors get to the finals without singularly great performances by their best individual scorers. Coke is maybe the guy who has shown that kind of individual ability of the three, but nothing like what  Mitchell was doing in year 2. Could he make the jump? It is possible. But if you are betting on any of these guys or future draft picks to have the ability of Mitchell, I think just getting Mitchell would be the safer bet.

    While our two lost important pieces in Franz and Paolo aren’t in the ready to compete phase yet, Carter Fultz and Isaac are being paid as if they are. Adding Mitchell would definitely put us in the playoffs in the east and wouldn’t it be better for the young guys to experience that sooner rather than later? It is probably a moot discussion since I don’t think the FO will do it, but if they think they have the core of a contending team in place, even if it isn’t ready for the big time yet, I don’t see why they shouldn’t push the chips in to get that last piece

    Mitchell is Gilbert Arenas. You don't mess up your rebuild for those type of players, especially the price you'll have pay. Guys like that need to be pair with a bonafide #1 in order for your team to be successful, which is why Miami is the perfect fit for him. If he wound up here, he would stunt the growth of both Paolo and Franz and we can't afford that.

     

    Luka and Tatum are the only two players that I'd blow the rebuilding project up for. 

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    2 hours ago, TreyMachine said:

    I just don’t think you can give up on Markelle, Cole, and Suggs so early, plus any future draft picks, to get a guy who can score but can’t defend or pass particularly well. 

    We glorify scorers in this league but winning in the deep playoffs needs more than that. 

    I’ll take my chances on Suggs, Markelle, or Cole popping off, and the value of our next 5 1st round picks, over Donovan Mitchell. 

    This. We rush the process with the last regime, and ended up trading three guys (Oladipo, Harris and Sabonis) who all three went on to become all stars for Ibaka and Biyombo. This move put this franchise back 6 years and we're just now getting back on the right track.

    I think this time around we should develop our young talent and get a better understanding of what we have going forward. You don't blow up the team in year 2 of the rebuild and throw the farm at Donovan Mitchell. I could see if it was Luka or Tatum, two guys on the verge of becoming superstar, but not Mitchell. I feel Miami is the best fit for Mitchell. They have a sure fire #1 in Butler and Mitchell would make a really good #2.

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    The Mitchell trade would set this franchise back like the Ibaka trade. We're in year 2 of the rebuild, we need to continue to develop our young talent so we can get a better understanding of what we have as of right now. I think the focus should be Paolo, Franz and Wendell going forward, and hope one or two of Fultz, Suggs or Anthony take that next step in their development. 

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    34 minutes ago, All Eyes On Me said:

    Looking forward to see Paulo playing next to real talent. He’s got a lot of work to do, but the flashes are special

    Yeah, the flashes are there, he just needs to play with a real playmaker. Look how much Giddey makes the game easier for Chet and the rest of OKC young players. I think Kelle will have a big effect on Paolo game. He may be one of the main reasons he goes on to win ROTY.

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    37 minutes ago, TreyMachine said:

    Real question - how annoyed do you think Paolo (and anyone on this team) is getting with Hampton’s hero-ball play? 

    And are any of the other players on the team (Fultz, Suggs) speaking to him about his obvious “me ball” play and it’s perceptions?

    I was thinking the same thing, especially since he's close to Cole and Suggs.

    He should be out there hitting Paolo and Houstan in their sweet spots. I hated how he came back in the game against Houston with the hero-ball, when Houstan was on fire.

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    Reporting here says Orlando turned down an offer from Houston to swap the #1 and #3 picks, once Orlando made it clear they were selecting Banchero. This means the Magic had the option to move down to #3 to draft Jabari while adding future draft compensation, but chose not to.
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    Paolo Banchero & Jabari Smith make their summer league debuts against each other tonight (ESPN, 10 ET) Here’s a behind the scenes look at what went down in Orlando, Houston & Brooklyn on a draft day that will forever link the two: (w/@espn_macmahon) https://espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/34203706/paulo-banchero-jabari-smith-jr-mystery-surrounded-nba-draft-no-1-pick

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    14 minutes ago, MagicFanDan said:

    Chet has played well, but Jazz dont really have much talent on their summer league roster. 

    It doesn't matter who he's playing, what matter is the moves he is making on both ends of the floor translate very well in the NBA. The kid is going to be a stud, if he can stay healthy.

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    1 hour ago, Natesroom said:

    THIS 100 TIMES THIS!

    We couldn't shoot last year, adding Paolo a 33% 3pt shooter does not help our team in shooting, where the #1 thing in the last 5 years was our "shooting" literally if we could have made a 3 or 4 percent change in 3pt percentage would have probably made us an 8th seed.

    He finished the year shooting 53% from the the 3, while carrying his team on his back to the Final Four. Plus, you tell by his shooting form (especially spot up shooting) that he can improve as a shooter.

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    It's such a shame he went down last season when he was off to the best start in his career. We were a fun team to watch during that time, too. The 15-18 foot shot looks sort of like his shot at Washington, and he shot those at a respectable clip too. Can't wait to see him and Suggs in the backcourt, with Cole and RJ backing them up.

     

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