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    Yeah, the way they constructed their summer league rosters have did no favors for Black, Jett and Houstan. We got a bunch of turnover prone chucker that don't play winning basketball. At least Black and Jett are both taking the right approach, by making the extra pass, and not just chuck in up shots.

    I feel Weltman needs to do a better job with our "farm system". We get three two-way players this year, hopefully he makes use of them. I mean using our second round pick would've been a good start to that process. We passed on some really good developmental prospects the pass two years. I still tight about us passing on Jaden Hardy last year. 

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    2 hours ago, ball junkie said:

    Agree about 6 for Cason …but 6 was AB ceiling …we could have traded but didn’t …sure you know I’m not the only one that’s said if he’s gonna be off ball a lot he’s not the ideal pick for us …we shall see 

     

    2 hours ago, ball junkie said:

    Agree about 6 for Cason …but 6 was AB ceiling …we could have traded but didn’t …sure you know I’m not the only one that’s said if he’s gonna be off ball a lot he’s not the ideal pick for us …we shall see 

    6 wasn't AB ceiling, 5 was. The Jazz and Wizards were both trying to jump in front of us to get Black, but the Pistons were high on Ausar. I knew Black was our guy once I seen that report.

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    2 hours ago, TreyMachine said:

    I think Udoka is a good coach to put together these pieces as he did a good job doing so in Boston - but I agree: Tons of talent and will take a Denzel in Remember the Titans type of inspiration to get these "me first" players to buy in and play cohesively. 

    If he can get Green, Porter Jr., and Whitmore to buy in, then Houston will be a problem in a year or two.

    I kind of wish they didn't sign VanVleet, so Amen could be thrown to the fire. I like his game alot. I believe they had Black higher on their board than Ausar, but I think Amen was higher than Black. The kid a stud.

     

     

     

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    32 minutes ago, TreyMachine said:

    I imagine Williams wanted to start, which he wasn't going to do here. Might have been a deal-killer from the get-go as I would have rather had Williams at $14M / year than an aging Ingles at $11M / year. Or maybe for the Magic it really was about keeping cap flexibility as our core players come off their rookie deals.

    This.

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    1 hour ago, ball junkie said:

    Was just reading up on Dele …dude was a head case …said he hardly played in his 2 seasons with the Magic …I remember reading about some incident he had driving a car and some bridge .

    Those guys were tough guys for sure …played hard …and I love that team cause we came from nothing …but not even close to the talent that was on our team last year .

    Shaq had a floor general veteran in Skiles, who made everybody job easier. Paolo had a second year guy in Franz, who was playing out of position, running point for the first 25 games of his career. Franz looked extremely uncomfortable in that role, and his number took a dip during that period, too. If, we had one of Cole or Fultz during that stretch were in the play-in.

    And as far as how many lottery picks we had on our team, it's irrelevant.

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    2 hours ago, ball junkie said:

    https://www.on3.com/news/espn-expert-reveals-post-lottery-2022-nba-mock-draft-auburn-duke-kansas-kentucky-ohio-state-michigan/
    I never saw any writer claim he was the best …most all the sites had the big 3 fairly even and then everybody else …since they were fairly even he had the top 3 teams picking on fit …which was why Jabari was earmarked for us …cause he can shoot the 3 and Banchero was not adept at that in college and was worse in the pros …and well, we still suck at shooting threes after his first year 

    It started to change back to Paolo when he put one of Coach K weakest teams on his back, and led them to the Final Four. Something your boy Chet don't know about.

    Also, Rafael Barlowe had Paolo #1 on his board for the longest.

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    7 minutes ago, Soul Bro said:

    Lol… At this point around the league, Harris is worth a 2nd, Suggs might be worth a mid first (at best), and Black is a complete unknown. Meanwhile, Herro is about to hit his prime, close to an all star, and locked up on a decent deal. Yes, I’d do that deal. However, I don’t think it’d be enough for Portland.

    Herro is nowhere near an all star. The Heat actually got better once he got hurt. It's a reason Portland doesn't want him back in return. His value took a big hit once Miami went on that run without him.

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    8 minutes ago, orlandoholic said:

    basically Cole, Harris, 2024 Top 3-5 protected pick and Denver pick.. 

    yeah i’d do that for either Herro or Simons if we get involved in the Lilliard trade

    His trade had Black, Suggs and Harris. That's getting fleeced for a return of Herro. Reminds me of the Ibaka trade.

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    22 minutes ago, All Eyes On Me said:

    Yeah, I understand the frustration here. It’s getting close to being a conversation of if we’re really that smart with money, or if ownership has just decided they want to be cheap over trying to compete. I had silly hopes for an exciting off-season that included trading one of our picks and getting back some sort of proven scorer, but it looks like we’re content on running it back with 2 more rookies and some uneventful FAs. Even the Ingles move, while it’s something to like on paper, he’ll be 36 by the time the season starts and coming off a recently torn ACL. I honestly am not sure if I expect him to be an on court contributor at all.

    You were excited for this weak free agency class? You notice most of the teams (Pistons and Spurs) with cap space basically punted this off-season to maintain cap flexibility for next year. Plus, I think the goal was to add players around Paolo and Franz to continue to allow them to grow, and not guys that would disrupt their development.

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    4 minutes ago, ball junkie said:

    Jimmer …scroll to the 9:25 mark …dude always gets a crazy amount of views 

    I think Black was higher on their board than Ausar Thompson. His camp had a nice read that Orlando was his landing spot back when Whitmore was projected as a top 5 pick. I think if Amen would've been available, it would've made their decision a bit more difficult. They went out their way to workout Black after his camp initially declined to workout for Orlando.

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    The Orlando Magic needed a movement shooter next to their young core, and they got it in Jett Howard Incredibly versatile in different off-ball screening actions, as he proved at Michigan. Quick, pristine release. Shot 40% from 3 through 17 games pre-ankle injury
     
    Didn't like the pick at first, but starting to come around to really liking it now. Reminds me of a 6'8 version of Jordan Poole. I feel Weltman was looking for a guy that was more than a shooter, and Howard is a scorer/shooter, a las Terrance Ross.

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    35 minutes ago, TreyMachine said:

    Here's a two scenarios that are fun to conjecture on:

    - If Cam Whitmore is taken #5, do we still take Black or do we take Ausar Thompson? 

    - If Coulibaly is still there at #11, so we take him or are we still taking Jett?

    I'm of the opinion I still think we take Black (and anger tons of guys on this board even more), but would have taken Coulibaly had he been available, even if the fit with Jett might be better. 

    I still think we take Black over Ausar. Blacks' team turned down our workout at first, but I guess management must've told his team we were going to shake the roster up, which made his people felt more comfortable and allowed Black to workout with us. 

    Now, I think the real decision would've been if Amen was available.

    I agree on Jett Howard. I feel he was their guy all along at 11.

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