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quote: Originally posted by Kramer: quote: Originally posted by truth393: quote: Originally posted by Drain-O:First off SVG is not responsible for any trades. That is on Otis. Second Trevor Ariza has played the following the last 3 seasons...57, 57, and 35 games. Third hasn't the bigger problem been the lack of offensive production from the bench. I do not see how Ariza would help in this department. Lastly the guy plays 2 games and hits a couple of 3's and you all act like he is an All-NBA performer. Stan isn't responsible for making trade, but even a blind man could see that SVG name was written all over that trade, because before Stan got the job, Otis was saying how Ariza was a big part of the future. Yeah a future...That ended with the signing of Rashard Lewis. He would be the third best small forward on the team and while it would be better than excellent to have perhaps the most athletic starting five next season (Nelson, Pietrus, Ariza, Lewis, Howard...I need to stop drooling) I don't think that it was in either Ariza's or the Magic's best interest for him to sit on the bench for two seasons Last year Bogans and Ariza was competing for the starting SG position, so the Lewis signing didn't have any affect on Ariza, it was his lack of outside shooting. Stan wanted to surround Dwight around shooter.

quote: Originally posted by rtillaree: quote: Originally posted by ma:What's new this year? the team sucking from the FT line... Until Dwight Howard shoot at least 70% from the line, were always going suck from the FT line, so that nothing new.

If Howard could shoot 70% from the line, he would be top 5 in the league in scoring.

quote: Originally posted by gporter:What's new this year??? LOL

quote: Originally posted by ThisIsTheYear: quote: Iverson actually helps the Pistons match up better against Boston, and they are the main team they need to match-up against. Rajon destroyed Billups off the dribble with his quickness last year. Iverson will at the very least attack him in the same manner at the other end of the floor. That, I'll agree with. Iverson should be able to shred Rondo into Parmesan cheese. The addition of AI, will also allow the Pistons to score more in the 4th quarter.

Just seen it on ESPN per Stephen A. Smith.

quote: Originally posted by murphy13: quote: Originally posted by avitale8:I think it's pretty obvious the JJ is the odd man out and needs to be moved. I think we need to keep Bogans because, say what you want about him, he's consistent, we have a new guy starting at sg, so its good to keep Keith around for security because you don't have to worry about him that much. You get rid of Keith then you have JJ & Lee as your backup sg's? c'mon thats not very smart. Also Bogans has the ability to run sf when we run small, both JJ & Lee don't have that ability. all you have to do is look back to last season to see bogans is not consistent. But Bogans has been the best player off our bench for a while now, he did lead the team in 3pt made last season, and you know that sat very well with Stan.

quote: Originally posted by chrisinboston:Yup, just another horrible trade in long list of horrible trades the Magic have pulled off; the worst of course being Doug Christie. Anybody think of a worse one? The reason why the Magic traded Mobley was because he was up for a new contract, and the Magic knew he was due a nice contract that they couldn't afford.

quote: Otis said the same thing about Darko. Darko was a part of the future, but when Darko agent came trying to overvalue his client, Otis had a change of plans. So you really can compare Ariza situation with Darko.

quote: Originally posted by Drain-O:First off SVG is not responsible for any trades. That is on Otis. Second Trevor Ariza has played the following the last 3 seasons...57, 57, and 35 games. Third hasn't the bigger problem been the lack of offensive production from the bench. I do not see how Ariza would help in this department. Lastly the guy plays 2 games and hits a couple of 3's and you all act like he is an All-NBA performer. Stan isn't responsible for making trade, but even a blind man could see that SVG name was written all over that trade, because before Stan got the job, Otis was saying how Ariza was a big part of the future.

quote: Originally posted by chrisinboston:Yup, just another horrible trade in long list of horrible trades the Magic have pulled off; the worst of course being Doug Christie. Anybody think of a worse one? How about when we traded Drew Gooden and Anderson Varejao for Tony Battie.

quote: Originally posted by CoachTsurfing: quote: Originally posted by truth393: quote: Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:We need a trade ASAP. We need bench production big time. If we could swing a deal to get us 2 players like we did last year with Cook/Evans, then we will be in good shape. A team like the 76ers, would have interest in Redick and Bogans, they seem to lack in the 3pt shooting area ever since Korver was traded. If I was Otis I would trade Redick for Speights or Bogans for Evans. Right now Bogans is the only one producing on and off the bench. I hate to say it cause I really like jj's game in college, but he needs to go. but, who would want him now? I would pair jj with turk or shard(shard is soft in my opinion) and get a pg and pf. then move turk or shard which ever one we keep to the 3. I don't know why I keep writing this. everyone knows what to do except otis. Lewis would be hard to move because of his contract.

quote: Originally posted by trazcer: quote: Originally posted by rtillaree: quote: Originally posted by trazcer:how about Turk and JJ for Paul Millsap + PG I know this isnt a trade thread...but what in the world makes you think that Millsap is worth Hedo & JJ? He just scored 24 pts in his latest game. he is a promising big plus we could use that PG. Hedo has more value then Millsap, we could get a better deal then that. I think Millsap would be a great addition to our team, but I wouldn't trade Hedo for him. There were talks a while ago that the Jazz was trying to deal AK47 to us for Hedo, but Otis decline the offer.

quote: Originally posted by Jareth Cutestory:We need a trade ASAP. We need bench production big time. If we could swing a deal to get us 2 players like we did last year with Cook/Evans, then we will be in good shape. A team like the 76ers, would have interest in Redick and Bogans, they seem to lack in the 3pt shooting area ever since Korver was traded. If I was Otis I would trade Redick for Speights or Bogans for Evans.

quote: Warriors coach Don Nelson responded to Al Harrington's trade request by saying, "If he wants to be traded, we'll try to accommodate him." "[Harrington] thinks he's a superstar," Nelson said. "I think he's a very good player." There is obvious acrimony between player and coach, and we're not sure how this can end in anything but a trade. The Knicks and Pacers are both interested in Harrington, though other teams will undoubtedly make offers. Stay tuned, things are getting interesting. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3677648&cam...&source=NBAHeadlines Al Harrington will be the next player traded this season.

You should change it to Dwight for MVP.

Lee played a solid game, he definitely deserve a spot in the rotation.

quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery: quote: Originally posted by KLR: quote: Originally posted by richnba:He has proved enough times what he is capable of, I trust him. Everyone is struggling to cloe out games. It is a problem that needs to be solved. If he is the one constantly taking that shot he is bound to make some. Maybe if the ball was moved more other guys could take a better shot. But if people actually thought like that, Chauncey Billups wouldn't have such a ridiculously overblown reputation! LOL. DOM your next Case of the Mondays: Who is DoM hating now, should be all about the man you see in the mirror.

quote: Originally posted by God hates Magic fans:but what can we get for Turk that makes sense? I don't think he carries a ton of value yet, I say send him to LA for Odom and Farmer, we package Hedo/jj and the trade exception Farmer is the Lakers PG of the future, and the Grizzles was trying to get him in the Gasol deal, but the Lakers decline them.

I'm kind of happy Otis didn't extend Turk contract this summer, because he most likely would've overpaid him.

quote: The Pistons signed guard Richard Hamilton to a three-year, $34 million contract extension on Monday, according to ESPN's Chad Ford.The first two years of the deal are guaranteed, while the third is partially guaranteed. Hamilton might sacrifice a few shots now that Allen Iverson is a Piston, and owners need to worry about the possible pairing of A.I. and Rodney Stuckey, which could eventually shift Rip to the bench. For now, revel in the job security and hope he gels with Iverson. http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3680959

I wonder why Gortat isn't getting any mins, I thought he was suppose to get alot of mins this year.

It good that we got the win tonite, but we have to learn how to keep the lead. On another note, Marc Gasol is killing the Warriors right now. He has 25 points 13 rebounds, and 3 blocks. I see why the Lakers was trying to keep him out of the Pau Gasol trade.

quote: Originally posted by ThisIsTheYear: quote: Originally posted by truth393: quote: Originally posted by Skywise316:Detroit is done as far as winning a championship this year.. Smack's right that this is a great move for the long term of the Pistons, but not so much for this year. Iverson's a great player, but he's a shooting guard in a point guard's body. There's no way he keeps everyone involved like Chauncey has up there. Not to mention losing McDyess hurts their big man depth, now there's a heck of a lot more pressure on Jason Maxiell, who's play is streaky, and Amir Johnson. Also someone's gonna take a back seat.. will it continue to be Stuckey, or will it be Richard Hamilton? I really see Detroit taking a step back this season, but benefiting in the long term.. and by long term I mean as soon as just next season. More Sportscenter highlights and at least a few less wins. Basically, there's every reason to cautiously celebrate in Boston, Orlando, and Cleveland. What is there for us celebrate, AI is still capable of dropping 25 points and 7 assists a night. I say teams should hold the celebration until June. My my, for a name like "truth", you sure seem reluctant to accept it. Allen isn't going to average large numbers in Detroit. Throughout his career, he's been placed on teams that have given him the freedom to shoot 20+ shots a night, and do you know why? Despite their miracle final's run where they faced the Lakers, Philly's always been a slightly above average team. They drafted the guy #1, therefor they clearly had faith in him. Then he left for Denver, or should I say, Enver, because they focus solely on offense, and play no "D". He's in Detroit now, an incredibly disciplined, defensive minded team, with players who already grasp the "team" concept of the game. You think Rip, Tay, and even worst of all, Sheed, are going to stand idly and watch AI isolate and take his man one-on-one all night? Not to mention under Michael Curry, as well?! Not a chance, bud. His production is going to take a pretty severe dip if Detroit is even willing to put up with him. The Pistons are doing alot of iso with Prince this year, so why wouldn't they do it with AI? And FYI Curry doesn't call the shot, Joe D does.