Mr Charisma

quote: Originally posted by orlandomagicin09:ESPN LOVES TO HATE THE MAGIC....IT'S QUITE PATHETIC IF YOU ASK ME....DWIGHT PUT HIS ELBOW IN AIR AND STARTED MOVING AND DALEMBERT WAS IN THE WAY.....WHAT DO YOU EXPECT.?? IF DWIGHT REALLY ELBOWED HIM DALEMBERT WOULD HAVE BEEN CRYING AND ON THE GROUND HOLDING HIS HEAD Yeah, I see your point. I can't tell you how many times I've seen NBA players raise their elbows into the air as they start to run the other way on the court. That's just the natural running position, isn't it? And putting your argument in CAPS does not make it any more valid or less ridiculous. And there is no question contact was made. It was a glancing blow, fortunately for Dalembert, but he definitely got him. And despite my chiding of your argument, welcome to the boards !!!

Okay, I've read the first 5 pages and stopped, so I really don't know who I will be agreeing with or disagreeing with. Dwight should and will be suspended. I understand why he did it, but the league will not budge on this. It has already proved that it will enforce its rules, regardless of the impact it will have on the outcome of the series. If nothing else, he should probably be suspended for his knockout blow to CLee, at least. (that last statement is sarcasm, for those not aware) The argument that there should be no suspension because there was no altercation is ridiculous beyond measure. If there was an altercation, then both players would be suspended. The league wants players to be controlled enough to walk away from a bad situation. Last night, Dalembert was smart enough to do that. Rondo should also be suspended for a game (he won't be, but he should). The argument that he might have been going for the ball is ridiculous. By the time Rondo got close to Miller, he was way behind him and Miller already had the ball in his hand lifted way out in front of him. There was no chance for a play on the ball.

quote: Originally posted by KillingInTheNameOf:I gotta add I think the intention behind the elimination of hand checking has completely backfired & the contrast between the perimeter & paint rules is illogical. That is so true. The only other sport that even comes close to having anything of this nature is the special protection given the QBs in the NFL. There is, at least, logic for that. There is no logic for the differences in touch fouls inside and outside the paint. A guy goes up for a 3-point shot and if the defender breathes hard on the guys little finger of his off hand, it is a foul. Go into the paint, and you can do anything but put the guy in a Figure 4 lock without hearing a whistle. Well, unless you are Kobe, Lebron or Dwyane. When you look at the play at the end of the last regular season game between the Magic and the Celtics, Dwight clearly got his body into Pierce. But Pierce came into the lane where all the rules are different. If that exact same play happens 2 feet further from the basket, Pierce is shooting free throws.

Rasheed Wallace and Manny Ramirez are the same person. They choose when they want to play hard and when they don't. The only difference between the 2 is that Rasheed is Manny once he is well beyond his prime. I guarantee that Sheed is not going to play hurt and, at his advancing age, he will be getting more and more aches and pains. I wouldn't pay him the Vet minimum. McDyess, however, I would take in a heartbeat.

quote: Originally posted by KillingInTheNameOf:That's rich. Perkins, and I say this with a level of respect, has become the dirtiest player in the entire league. The % of fouls he commits that actually get called is less than 10%. I say this in all seriousness, you could call a foul on the guy 80% of the time a shot goes up. Some of the blatant holding I've seen him get away with against Noah in this series down the stretch of games is criminal. As far as the moving screens, yea, set 10 illegal screens per game, and cry because they call 2. This is why I've always respected guys like Matt Harpring. He plays physical, he plays dirty, he takes it when he's on the receiving end, and doesn't cry when a foul is called. The thing with whiners like Perkins and Sheed is that they get away with ish all game long, so they can't ever understand why the whistle is blown when it is...and to a degree I understand. The problem however it that the whistle should blow more often, not less. Well said. Varajao is another one that fits in this category. And I have no idea what he has ever done to earn the respect of refs; none whatsoever.

quote: Originally posted by VaBchMagicFan: quote: Originally posted by OnlyIntelPosts:As DoM pointed out, the 76ers are not doubling Dwight, which has played out to be a extremely good strategy, the only reason being that Philly's forwards are propably the most athletic starters in the league. I think this series is tough because of that, but if and hopefully we do get to the second round, anyone who tries this strategy will get blown out, for the simple fact that our forwards, are probably the best combo in the league because of the mismatches they create. When we move on, and we play Boston/Chicago, they are gonna go back to doubling Dwight, if they don't it's a loss, and when they do, everyone else will open up and our forwards will produce like they had been the whole season. The only reason this series is tough, is because Philly matches up so great with us. Miller destroys the PG position, Young and AI are too atheltic for us. The only advantage we have is the SG and C positions, and we need to use that advantage. I like what I saw in Game 4, in terms of giving Hedo more of a scoring role rather than "create for others" which was not working. As you guys prolly saw, CLee was running a number of pick and rolls getting our forwards open, hopefully we'll see that more. Actually Boston does not double Dwight, maybe they will with KG hurt but I doubt it. Perkins actually plays Dwight better than anyone in the league other than Yao. I gurantee you this with the success teams have with not doubling Dwight very few teams will for now on. It is not a fluke that we lost both games he scored 30 we are a better team when 4 guys don't watch 1 which is what happens when you have 4 jump shooters who don't like to take the ball to the basket, sometimes Lee does, or put the ball on the floor, and when they do turn they ball over alot. Dwight is not good enough in the post to command a double he can get 30 when he is shooting well but when he isn't even in single coverage he will not kill you. In general I agree with you, but if you single cover Dwight, you can be assured that your best 2 bigs will likely be in foul trouble throughout the game. That is the problem with trying to single cover him. If you are deep at that position (or, in the case of the Sixers, there is not much difference between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd stringers), then single coverage is a good philosophy. Perkins and Davis both defend Dwight well, but with the lack of depth now with their bigs, they may be a tad more reluctant to single cover and to risk getting these guys in foul trouble. Should be interesting. At least one thing we know that works in our favor. Doc will probably make the wrong decision.

quote: Originally posted by Vellassco: quote: Originally posted by Mr Charisma: I've made no secret of the fact that Hedo drives me crazy, and I would be fine if they did not resign him after this season. i really dont know why im still suspicious from positivity of this post. This forum is dragging me to my paranoid lands. note: mojority of us would be fine if magic not resign him after this season. I understand that. My point was that expressing differences of opinions is one thing, but to come into a thread to instigate trouble in a language you don't even know is antagonistic in nature against the posters, and has nothing to do with basketball opinions. That is crossing a line of acceptability, in my personal opinion.

Can I make a peaceful suggestion? If you don't know the language, don't try to post in here. There are plenty of English speaking threads for making comments. For any English speaking individuals to come into this thread, their only purpose is to cause trouble. This was not allowed in the Spanish language thread when Arroyo was here, and it should not be tolerated in this thread either. Grow up, and allow the fans from Turkey the freedom to express their feelings in their native language. First, we chide them for butchering the English language, which they do because it is not their first language. Then when they attempt to have a thread to communicate to each other in their own language, we bash that too. The difference between expressing opinion and HATE is when you find reason to criticize and ridicule regardless of what method they attempt to use. If you don't know the language, go to a thread in your language and express opinions. I've made no secret of the fact that Hedo drives me crazy, and I would be fine if they did not resign him after this season. But that's a lot different than coming into a thread that is not my native tongue just to be inflammatory in nature. Surely we can be better than that. And hopefully the mods will start making sure of it, just as the did with the Spanish speaking thread. They do a good job, and I'm sure they'll do the same here. And my apologies to the fans from Turkey for putting this long English post in this thread (kind of breaks the premise of my first statement, doesn't it?).

quote: Originally posted by KillingInTheNameOf:Nothing person Charisma, but your post sets up my point. I have no desire to defend Hedo's undisciplined game as a whole, but I will defend that shot. quote: Originally posted by Mr Charisma:1) Hedo's shot was not a fade-away. It was a step-back. He does both frequently, but is much better at the step-back. I see Hedo stepping up & pulling up for a J when Young back peddles. quote: 2) Charles Barkley said it best after the game. It was a horrible play but, since the shot went in, there won't be much criticism. Here is the point: the game was tied. With that much time on the clock, Hedo MUST drive to the basket and force them to foul him. Those percentages are 1000 times higher than what he did. So it was a horrible decision, yet a beautiful shot at the same time. I disagree with this bolded part completely. In this situation, the only thing that is inexcusable is losing in regulation. Priority #1, don't give Phily a chance to win. Priority #2, give your team a chance to win. If Hedo's shot gives the Magic a 30-40% chance to win and a 0% chance to lose, that is infinitely better than any other line in which Hedo has a higher percentage opportunity to give the Magic the lead, but leaves the door open for Phily to win the game in regulation. Which would be the case if he drove earlier and got fouled as you and others suggest he should have & neglects to account for all the negatives that could occur in this scenerio. I also still fail to see what better shot Hedo gets in this situation vs. a superior athlete who's giving him a cushion. This is basic iso play imo. Defender gives ground, pull up. Defender presses, drive. Hedo is not exactly Kobe. Young isn't going to keep back peddling, especially when Hedo is working against the clock. He's also shading Hedo inside, where he has help from Dre Miller outside. Hedo keeps driving, you get 1 of 2 results. 1. Contested fade away 2. Pass to Lee in the corner & play beat the clock If Young was pressing Hedo and he pulled up for a heavily contested fade away like Jameer used to every time in this situation, I would understand the criticism better. Young gave ground, Hedo pulled up for a no lose shot. No problem KITNO. That was just a portion of my post. Again, I didn't expect everyone to agree with me. BTW, I should have been more specific concerning the statement that you bolded. It was critical that he first run the clock down before doing WHATEVER he was going to do: drive or shoot. That, to me, was a given since the game was tied. Whatever he did had to be the last play of regulation. And, finally, I just watched a replay of the final shot again, and you and the others are correct. It was not a step back. It was actually his normal shot. There is a small element of fade-away to it, but that is his normal jump shot. So I am admitting to that element of my post being wrong. Sssshhhhh !!!! Don't tell anybody.

quote: Originally posted by ThisIsTheYear: quote: Originally posted by Mr Charisma: quote: Originally posted by rtillaree:why is 6ersrule still alive on this board? For the same reason that folks watch wrestling. It serves no purpose, but it's still funny to watch. ROFL !! Awesome, awesome stuff !!!

quote: Originally posted by rtillaree:why is 6ersrule still alive on this board? For the same reason that folks watch wrestling. It serves no purpose, but it's still funny to watch.

quote: Originally posted by Vellassco:its more like " You are wrong because You have no brain" LOL. I didn't expect everyone to agree with me.

quote: Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16: quote: Originally posted by ma:1- It was not a step back either. 2- Barkley is a fool, going with the wind. That show became a joke, they don't even talk basketball 90% of the time but rather spend time advertising their investors and showing stupid photoshop pictures. 3- Hedo does drive with purpose, just can't connect everytime. 4- Don't care. 5- Billups ripping us apart, turnovers and Offensive boards? Hamilton lighting us up? It's amazing how people forget so easily. Prince had good games, but you tied the whole series to just one person, and he is not their main guy. 6- Who is a point forward in this league? How many 6'10 guys can handle and drive like Hedo does? Lebron and Iguodala are good but they are 6'8' and 6'6'. Now tell me, does Hedo play point better than AJ and Lue or not? 7- yes he is a nice and humble guy. quote: Originally posted by Mr Charisma:I do not have time to read this entire thread. After page 1, I chose to just quit that exercise. But since the topic is Hedo, I'll add my 2 cents worth. 1) Hedo's shot was not a fade-away. It was a step-back. He does both frequently, but is much better at the step-back. 2) Charles Barkley said it best after the game. It was a horrible play but, since the shot went in, there won't be much criticism. Here is the point: the game was tied. With that much time on the clock, Hedo MUST drive to the basket and force them to foul him. Those percentages are 1000 times higher than what he did. So it was a horrible decision, yet a beautiful shot at the same time. 3) Hedo is a 6'10" version of Troy Hudson. He drives with no purpose, and hoists shots from the outside for no apparent reason. 4) Hedo will have to go after this season. SVG loves him way too much. By next season, Courtney Lee and Jameer will be the primary ISO guys. But SVG won't switch unless Otis does to him what Gabe did to BHill. Since Brian insisted on playing Skiles over Penny, Gabe traded Skiles, forcing BHill's hand. I expect to see the same thing happen this off-season. 5) Hedo cost us the Round 2 series last year when Tayshaun destroyed him. There are those that would like to pretend that we lost because of the bigs. That was a problem, but the Hedo/Prince matchup is what cost us the series. And this year, we again are close to losing a series based primarily on the fact that Hedo is being outplayed severely by AI. 6) Hedo is a good player. In fact, he is a VERY good player. But he is NOT a point forward, and should not be used as such. I truly hope he lands on a team that uses him based upon his skills and not on what HE wants to do. 7) Hedo is a class act. Always has been. Always will be. Wow. Way to try and discredit a well thought out post with "You are wrong because I said so." How dare you accuse me of writing a well thought out post. I am highly offended. Actually, I was kind of enjoying the reply until he mentioned Billups. That kind of discredited his entire post, seeing as how Billups was out for much of the series. And the answer to #6 is the whole point. No one, INCLUDING Hedo. Hedo is a better ball-handler than most 6'10" guys, no question, but that doesn't give him a license to pretend to be Lebron. I may (or may not) be smarter than most folks, but that doesn't mean that I think I should go try and build a nuclear reactor. And I never tried to compare Hedo to AJ or Lue. I compared him to CLee and Jameer. Don't twist my words. I have enough trouble getting them out the way it is.

I do not have time to read this entire thread. After page 1, I chose to just quit that exercise. But since the topic is Hedo, I'll add my 2 cents worth. 1) Hedo's shot was not a fade-away. It was a step-back. He does both frequently, but is much better at the step-back. 2) Charles Barkley said it best after the game. It was a horrible play but, since the shot went in, there won't be much criticism. Here is the point: the game was tied. With that much time on the clock, Hedo MUST drive to the basket and force them to foul him. Those percentages are 1000 times higher than what he did. So it was a horrible decision, yet a beautiful shot at the same time. 3) Hedo is a 6'10" version of Troy Hudson. He drives with no purpose, and hoists shots from the outside for no apparent reason. 4) Hedo will have to go after this season. SVG loves him way too much. By next season, Courtney Lee and Jameer will be the primary ISO guys. But SVG won't switch unless Otis does to him what Gabe did to BHill. Since Brian insisted on playing Skiles over Penny, Gabe traded Skiles, forcing BHill's hand. I expect to see the same thing happen this off-season. 5) Hedo cost us the Round 2 series last year when Tayshaun destroyed him. There are those that would like to pretend that we lost because of the bigs. That was a problem, but the Hedo/Prince matchup is what cost us the series. And this year, we again are close to losing a series based primarily on the fact that Hedo is being outplayed severely by AI. 6) Hedo is a good player. In fact, he is a VERY good player. But he is NOT a point forward, and should not be used as such. I truly hope he lands on a team that uses him based upon his skills and not on what HE wants to do. 7) Hedo is a class act. Always has been. Always will be.

quote: Originally posted by emory889:How many halftime speeches do you think Larry Bird gave? None. He let his elbows talk for him.

Lue will be playing by the middle of the 4th quarter. 111-82.

quote: Originally posted by Bianchi:And, please, don't anybody bring up how I wrote that the Magic shouldn't have fired Brian Hill. The statute of limitations has run out on that. LOL. By the way, Mike, has Mr. Schmitz recovered yet? He had the biggest man-crush on Brian Hill I've ever seen out of any male at any level. I hear BS still refuses to put any Pennies in his pocket.

Wouldn't you love to hear a conversation between Avery, Mike Tyson, and Pee Wee Herman? It would sound like the were talking in a room full of helium. Richard Simmons could be doing the interview.

quote: Originally posted by Kberto: quote: Originally posted by SarGe:Title = Bye Bye Orlando. _|_ Finals = Bye Bye Orlando Close ECF Loss = Bye Bye Orlando Ugly ECF Loss = Bye Bye Orlando Close 2nd Round Loss = Bye Bye Orlando Ugly 2nd Round Loss = Bye Bye Orlando 1st Round Upset = Bye Bye Orlando Will he be squirting on the way out? Why is that thread not in the HOF yet?

quote: Originally posted by alg1731:Hahaha they pretty much finished 40-1 at home. Lebron, joe smith, Mo williams and big Z didnt play. They would have killed them if they were in. Shows how bad philly really is. They cant even beat a 2nd line team. Philly will get destroyed in the playoffs Unfortunately for the Cavs, "pretty much" isn't what goes in the record books. But they made the right decision in not playing those guys. See ya in a couple of weeks.

quote: Originally posted by KillingInTheNameOf:Phily is worst 3-pt. shooting team in league, horrible in half court, & 1 of the worst FT shooting teams. So, how do they keep up, and make up points? As long as Shard & Hedo aren't MIA, this is a cake walk! Agree. This should be a sweep. If it goes more than 5, it's an epic fail.

quote: Smith is so focused on turning Howard into a leader that he's taken some counterintuitive steps

quote: Originally posted by jecMagicMan: quote: Originally posted by Mr Charisma: quote: Originally posted by rtillaree:Dwight has not won an NBA title... Dwight has not been on an NBA team with Kobe or DWade. Neither has Tim Duncan True. Either has Kendrick Perkins. What's your point? That has exactly what to do with comparing Shaq and Dwight? Surely you don't believe that I think Dwight is already better than Shaq was? No one that has a basketball IQ higher than Martha Stewart would believe that Dwight has surpassed Shaq's glory days.

Stuff will break his other foot. Oh, sorry, struggling with the concept.... How's this: Former Magic Dancer April will make a special appearance to the thrill of one drooling mod.

quote: Originally posted by rtillaree:Dwight has not won an NBA title... Dwight has not been on an NBA team with Kobe or DWade.