Shadow41

Oh god .. I'm a hedo fan too and i'm turk. I'm very happy about hedo's peformance but for the love of god shut the hell up and enjoy this TEAM's achievement.

quote: Originally posted by Gruden:with CA Orlando would be down by 30, right? yeah, yeah, and? See Turkiye on the Olympics. Oh, you're not going? You have MIP Turkoglu and you're not going? And PR only have bench eater CA and is going? How can it be? dude are u high ? PR is not going to olympics, you still have to play an elimination (USA and ARG are confirmed teams from america) plus PR is not on europe its on america which is relatively easy group (then europe). Your boy los is not playing, deal with it..

we win .. ... wait, this isn't the game thread..!! we win anyways.. !!

Great win.. Great team.. Movin on to philly.!!

choosing-the-mvp-geometrically in that page there is a spreadsheet stat chart (Winshare Area Graph) it's very cool and simple way to find players value to their teams. Also to make comparisons with other players (for MVP talks) few interesting things that i want to point out: -Our big 3 (howard, turk, shard) is second among all other teams big 3's (behind Hornets) for their value to their team (impact on winning) -Turk is clearly our 2nd best player (not suprize) -Chart shows players with colors. it says ''colors are derived from playing type:scoring(red), perimeter(green), interior(blue).''. So if i understand that color thing correctly; Dwight is leagues best inside presence -he is the most purple'ish{red+blue=purple}- (duncan is second) -Ray allen and Rondo has same value for their team. -Calderon is Raptors' MVP. (LMAO...) What you all thing? (am i right about that color thing ?)

quote: Originally posted by echo4papa:Hey Shadow... that's some interesting reading isn't it? The different shades represent the overall type of player they are, based on his formulas. They represent the type of player someone is, not their overall effectiveness per se. This second page here goes into more detail. http://arbitrarian.wordpress.com/2007/06/19/basketball-...etype-visualization/ The graph in that link was my desktop screen for a long time on my PC. No i know colors are nothing to do with effectiveness. But among teams MVP's Dwight has the most inside game and among the players who has the most inside game Dwight is the most valuable/effective one. So i guess it makes Dwight the best inside presence.. ?!? (or i'm just stupid)

choosing-the-mvp-geometrically in that page there is a spreadsheet stat chart (Winshare Area Graph) it's very cool and simple way to find players value to their teams. Also to make comparisons with other players (for MVP talks) few interesting things that i want to point out: -Our big 3 (howard, turk, shard) is second among all other teams big 3's (behind Hornets) for their value to their team (impact on winning) -Turk is clearly our 2nd best player (not suprize) -Chart shows players with colors. it says ''colors are derived from playing type:scoring(red), perimeter(green), interior(blue).''. So if i understand that color thing correctly; Dwight is leagues best inside presence -he is the most purple'ish{red+blue=purple}- (duncan is second) -Ray allen and Rondo has same value for their team. -Calderon is Raptors' MVP. (LMAO...) What you all thing? (am i right about that color thing ?)

Beast will have a 40/20 game.. Turk with triple-double.. We will win by 30 pts ..

WOW this came out of nowhere for me ..!! GO Turk GO MAGIC ....

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Hedo for MIP. yeah ..!! Thats what im talking about ..

Hedo is on a winning team and important part of it.. Its easier to put good numbers on a losing/weak team in my opinion. Especially points cause no one else is scoring..

by the way .. quote: Originally posted by satkingdom:I am Turkish and a big fan of Hedo but I am getting sick of these threads. Hedo over Rashard or Rashard over Hedo. What is more important is winning. Why can't we just accept that they are different players with different skills. What if they ask themselves the same question. I can see that the fact that Rashard is overpaid creates hostile feeling against him. Like it or not he is a vital part of the team. Magic fans should give him the respect he deserves. He is playing out of position and he hasn't complained at all. How many maximum contract players can accept this role without complaining. He should be respected for the team-first attitude. Most people try to bash him for something that is not his fault. Magic should compete against other teams not each other. i second that.. well said..

quote: Originally posted by TheRevTy:More importantly: Is Hedo vs. Rashard the new Carlos vs. Jameer? I fear for the future. NO. in the future Garrity vs. Auggie will be the new Los vs. Meer..!!

quote: Most Improved Player Hedo Turkoglu, Orlando Magic We sing the same whiny song every April. Do you give the MIP to the player who jumps from non-factor to impact player? Or to the guy who goes from good to really good? Or to the guy who makes the subtle statistical climb but otherwise monstrous leap from really good to the rarefied air of full-fledged stud? http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-080412-13 My picks are : MVP : Chris Poul COY: Byron Scott ROY: Kevin Durant 6th man: Manu ginobili DPOY: Marcus Camby MIP: Hedo Turkoglu your thoughts ??..

quote: Most Improved Player Hedo Turkoglu, Orlando Magic We sing the same whiny song every April. Do you give the MIP to the player who jumps from non-factor to impact player? Or to the guy who goes from good to really good? Or to the guy who makes the subtle statistical climb but otherwise monstrous leap from really good to the rarefied air of full-fledged stud? http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-080412-13 My picks are : MVP : Chris Poul COY: Byron Scott ROY: Kevin Durant 6th man: Manu ginobili DPOY: Marcus Camby MIP: Hedo Turkoglu your thoughts ??..

Now i have NO doubt that hakanhawk is not a real person.. Someone just want to have some fun and came to troll this board.. Get a life ..

quote: Originally posted by emory889: quote: Originally posted by Shadow41: quote: I AM TURKISH AND LIKE ALL TURKISH BASKETBALL FANS I ADORE HEDO AND HIS BASKETBALL. WE VE HAD OTHER TURKISH PLAYERS IN THE NBA, LIKE MEHMET OKUR, MIRSAT, IBRAHIM KUTLUAY, ERSEN ILYASOVA, ZAZA. BUT HEDO MEANS SO MUCH TO US. dude speak to yourself not every turkish basketball fan 'ADORE' hedo. i just love the game of basketball and like hedo's game. thats why i watch orlando magic and nba. not every turkish basketball fan obsessed about hedo like you do. take a chill pill.. I haven't heard anyone say "take a chill pill" in a very long time. hehe i was re-watching 'the office' last week.

quote: I AM TURKISH AND LIKE ALL TURKISH BASKETBALL FANS I ADORE HEDO AND HIS BASKETBALL. WE VE HAD OTHER TURKISH PLAYERS IN THE NBA, LIKE MEHMET OKUR, MIRSAT, IBRAHIM KUTLUAY, ERSEN ILYASOVA, ZAZA. BUT HEDO MEANS SO MUCH TO US. dude speak to yourself not every turkish basketball fan 'ADORE' hedo. i just love the game of basketball and like hedo's game. thats why i watch orlando magic and nba. not every turkish basketball fan obsessed about hedo like you do. take a chill pill..

Hakan do you have a man crush on hedo ..? People can say whatever they want to say about him .. WHY DO YOU CARE ???? People on this board appriciate hedo. They don't have to create new thread about how good hedo is to prove their love.. also criticizing hedo's game or making jokes about his wife or his beard or whatever, dosen't mean people HATE hedo. Gosh... you are waaay too sensitive. I have no idea why did you so offended.. You are new to this forum and unfortunately first thing you saw was DoM's thread ..lol (by the way i am turkish too)

OH MY GOOOD !! nobody calling anyone racist, the whole thing is a misunderstanding. just read the quotes quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery: quote: Originally posted by erenos: quote: Originally posted by Drunk on Mystery: quote: Originally posted by erenos:Dom really dont like him (style, nation ,type...etc i dont know) Are you implying I'm racist against Turkish people? Really? No man you misunderstood me..i think you missed ''...etc i dont know words.. it means you can hate him anything about him..somehow style,nation,type,age,height,weight,hair,....(long list) If I hate one thing about Hedo, it would likely be that he's often lazy on defense. If I hated two things about Hedo, it would be that first thing, and the fact that he has the ugliest facial hair I've ever seen on a human being. He looks like a cross between a low-rate porn star and the world's most pretentious beatnik. Eronos tried to say DoM hates turk for some reason, unfortunately he writes ''nation'' and when DoM asks about it he said he has been misunderstood. Then racist thing went on after that (By the way erenos was right about DoM hating turk for some reason cause DoM hates hedos facial hair.. lol)

This thread should be a lesson to DoM and all of us.. Never write a long post to make a sipmle point.. People won't read all of it and they will understand what they want to ... lol

LMAO that is awesome ..! just read the comments lol ..

quote: 11. Hedo Turkoglu, Orlando Magic : A popular choice for the Most Improved Player award thanks to his role in turning the Magic into Southeast Division champs, Turkoglu has added more than six points to his per-game scoring average while improving his field goal, 3-point and free-throw percentages. He's done this while becoming something of a de facto point guard for Orlando, as the 6-10 forward might be the team's best distributor. He'd rank higher if he had another season or two like this under his belt. Until he does, the more proven output of Deng and Ilgauskas trumps his. http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=...age%3dAll-World-0708 full list: 1. Tim Duncan, San Antonio Spurs 2. Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas Mavericks 3. Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns 4. Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs 5. Yao Ming, Houston Rockets 6. Pau Gasol, Memphis Grizzlies 7. Tony Parker, San Antonio Spurs 8. Jose Calderon, Toronto Raptors 9. Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Cleveland Cavaliers 10. Luol Deng, Chicago Bulls 11. Hedo Turkoglu, Orlando Magic 12. Andrei Kirilenko, Utah Jazz 13. Andris Biedrins, Golden State 14. Leandro Barbosa, Phoenix Suns 15. Mehmet Okur, Utah Jazz 16. Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee Bucks 17. Ben Gordon, Chicago Bulls 18. Samuel Dalembert, Philadelphia 76ers 19. Peja Stojakovic, New Orleans Hornets 20. Luis Scola, Houston Rockets 21. Andres Nocioni, Chicago Bulls 22. Al Horford, Atlanta Hawks 23. Anderson Varejao, Cleveland Cavaliers 24. Nene, Denver Nuggets 25. Ronny Turiaf, Los Angeles Lakers 26. Raja Bell, Phoenix Suns 27. Francisco Garcia, Sacramento Kings 28. Wally Szczerbiak, Cleveland Cavaliers 29. Rasho Nesterovic, Toronto Raptors 30. Carlos Delfino, Toronto Raptors i posted all list because its insider thing . If its against any rule mods can erase it. 11th. i think its decent place. what u all thing ?

quote: Originally posted by EnFuego: quote: Originally posted by Kberto:If you could trade Hedo straight up for Calderon tomorrow would you do it? I would do it. Hate to trade hedo but Calderon would give us a very good point guard, it would move Rashard to the small forward position. Batie would be back until we find a better PF. Too bad Toronto wouldn't do it. By the way. I keep track of all the drafts and I can't find Calderon anywhere. Was he ever drafted? If Toronto just signed him as a free agent, that is a great investment return on a good European scout. and what would you do with jameer ?? ...