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quote: Originally posted by John the Jerk: quote: Originally posted by Mastalerz: quote: Originally posted by John the Jerk: quote: Originally posted by Mastalerz: quote: Originally posted by Escobar06:In the end it's our effort, we've shown none. I haven't seen us play two lazy games in a row like this all year. That tells me our team thought they were invincible, that they could turn it on whenever they wanted. When we play our game we are better than Boston, unfortunately they're playing Boston's game. We need ball movement and a fast tempo, that's it. Those two things right there make us the better team and would allow us to win the next two games. I just don't see it happening though. We also know the already ridiculous officiating is just going to get worse in Boston. Series is over folks. How can you complain about officiating when Perkins and Pierce fouled out? Magic have no excuses for losing late. Listen here sir. Pierce should've fouled out by Halftime, if the refs would call a foul a foul. Howard got whistled for his 4th when barnes foulded PP and howard wasnt even close to him, after that u guys went on a run. Did u see PP foul barnes 3 times on the fastbreak ALL OF THEM NO CALLS. So shutup and enjoy the win, 5 on 5 the Magic are a better team. 8 on 5 I guess boston is 3 points better Your just a soar loser, if the offensive player creates the contact and its not too excessive then the refs arent going to call a foul - and Perkins last foul was a bs call. There are bad calls on both ends, for you to pretend that the reason the magic lost was because the refs favored the celtics is rediculous. TROLL PLEASE. Pauline Pierce has made a living off of creating the contact and lives at the line. The celtics played better at the end of the game but if your "Physical Play" would be called what it is.....A Foul. Then u wouldnt be in position to get a win in the final seconds Riiiight, and if your buddy Nelson didn't body check Pierce from behind he might of missed that jumper - but I guess you'll have to live with the two free throws he made. I think its funny how you make arguments for the refs picking on Dwight, when the guy literally shoves people around and gets away with it - as soon as someone shoves him back hes crying about it/ or smiling and laughing.

quote: Originally posted by Sinister_Grin:I also think its ridiculous to blame the refs. The refs suck everyone knows that. The point is not getting yourself in the situation where a few bad calls cost you the game. In the Atlanta series the refs were horrible but we were blowing them out so bad that it didn't matter. NBA officiating has always been horrible. And its worse in the regular season because if players are under the assumption that if they just throw their shoulder into a defender when they go up for a layup they are going to get a foul, durring the playoffs they usually let that go. Bottom line is refs miss calls and think they saw a call that wasn't there, they also give the wrong player a foul. Happens on both ends, but there are smart fouls and dumb fouls - nelson fouling pierce on his J at the end was a dumb foul.

quote: Originally posted by John the Jerk: quote: Originally posted by Mastalerz: quote: Originally posted by Escobar06:In the end it's our effort, we've shown none. I haven't seen us play two lazy games in a row like this all year. That tells me our team thought they were invincible, that they could turn it on whenever they wanted. When we play our game we are better than Boston, unfortunately they're playing Boston's game. We need ball movement and a fast tempo, that's it. Those two things right there make us the better team and would allow us to win the next two games. I just don't see it happening though. We also know the already ridiculous officiating is just going to get worse in Boston. Series is over folks. How can you complain about officiating when Perkins and Pierce fouled out? Magic have no excuses for losing late. Listen here sir. Pierce should've fouled out by Halftime, if the refs would call a foul a foul. Howard got whistled for his 4th when barnes foulded PP and howard wasnt even close to him, after that u guys went on a run. Did u see PP foul barnes 3 times on the fastbreak ALL OF THEM NO CALLS. So shutup and enjoy the win, 5 on 5 the Magic are a better team. 8 on 5 I guess boston is 3 points better Your just a soar loser, if the offensive player creates the contact and its not too excessive then the refs arent going to call a foul - and Perkins last foul was a bs call. There are bad calls on both ends, for you to pretend that the reason the magic lost was because the refs favored the celtics is rediculous.

quote: Originally posted by Sinister_Grin:I think he needs to be fired if he shoots one more fade away shot in this series. If only that were possible. Thats been Vinces game his entire career, especially the past few years - your lucky there werent more fade away or deep pull up threes. What did you expect when he came here? Hes not going to be dunking on everyone in the playoffs.

quote: Originally posted by Escobar06:In the end it's our effort, we've shown none. I haven't seen us play two lazy games in a row like this all year. That tells me our team thought they were invincible, that they could turn it on whenever they wanted. When we play our game we are better than Boston, unfortunately they're playing Boston's game. We need ball movement and a fast tempo, that's it. Those two things right there make us the better team and would allow us to win the next two games. I just don't see it happening though. We also know the already ridiculous officiating is just going to get worse in Boston. Series is over folks. How can you complain about officiating when Perkins and Pierce fouled out? Magic have no excuses for losing late.

i guess thats why they call him the truth

quote: Originally posted by XaviInThe407:Finish strong MAgic! Please! Carter needs to just take those drives in, not those little fadeaways. Thats his game, hes done that his whole career - pierce does the same thing.

quote: Originally posted by Svanxx: quote: Originally posted by Meow:This just isn't the same Orlando Magic that everyone saw in the first 2 rounds... This isn't the Magic that we saw this season either. Its the same orlando magic they just aren't playing the lowly bobcats or the hawks

it is what it is

he is the truth...

quote: Originally posted by IloveMAGICsomuch: quote: Originally posted by GhostAnime:Leaving Howard on an island with wallace is just asking for more turnovers. look more closely on how these turnovers happen. don't just stare at 18 turnovers and think it's random. howard is clearly uncomfortable down low. Do you really believe that Rasheed or any Celtic can guard Dwight one on one? Get real. As soon as Dwight get's his offensive game going the Celtics will have no choice but to double up on Dwight forcing him to kick it out to an open 3 point shooter. Stop giving the Celtics too much credit. He has yet to score over twenty against the celtics all year, and even last year with no Sheed/KG he only scored over twenty twice in eleven games. So to answer your question, yes, it is quite obvious the celtics can cover him one on one as they did sunday. He has even said himself Perkins in the toughest person who guards him.

quote: Originally posted by UBBALLER8: quote: Originally posted by t1meband1t: quote: Originally posted by UBBALLER8: quote: Originally posted by GhostAnime:I've watched maybe 80 of the 82 games this year, and I watched all of Howard turnovers. A good majority of them is just simple ball pressure and 'frustration' that happened to him in the Christmas game. It doesn't take a Celtics fan to realize that. We also beat them 3 out of 4 games in the regular season. The games are going to be close, we just need to cut down on our turnovers and play better defense. That's the whole thing. Dwight doesn't need huge offensive numbers. He just needs to be efficient, rebound the ball, and play his usual stellar defense. re: Define "efficient". To me that meaans when Dwight is being guarded one on one he has to have a better percentage than 25 percent. If he doesn't score one on one he won't draw the double team which therefore will not get good looks for other players around the perimeter. Dwight needs to play good offensively...efficiently...for the Magic to win against Boston. Defense alone won't do it for him imo. Efficient is not turning the ball over. Even if he scores 10 points and only turns the ball over once, then he's doing a good job. I think we can get open shots as long as we have good penetration and ball movement. I don't think the congestion is solely due to Howard's play. Sure Howard scoring can help a bunch, but I just want him to be efficient and not turn the ball over, and we should win. All the pressure on him to have a big game is going to do the complete opposite, hes going to try and score and hes going to keep turning it over. I mean the guy is so uncomfortable hes traveling in the post without even getting a good look.

quote: Originally posted by dreamingincolors: quote: Originally posted by T REX:Boston plays Howard man up....which means our guys aren't getting open 3 looks all game. Plus, Boston is the healthiest they've been in a long time. I don;t think we match up very well against them. i would have rather had the cavs. They were still shooting open 3's when Howard was on the bench during the Bobcats series. I think that Orlando ball movements give them more open 3's then Howard did in the past two series, though it might have started with him being doubled teamed. But once Orlando bring back their ball movements they'll be fine. Boston uses ball pressure to limit ball movement, and by not doubling Howard they won't have to shift the perimeter D - that's where Orlando gets a lot its open looks off of, ball movement off of doubling Howard. Jameer gets penetration but the defense isnt collapsing on him, and they are letting him shoot contested shots instead of passing to an open guy. Thats how the celtics played Lebron, the defense gave him different looks and would collapse or force him to different angles making him make a decision at the last second.

quote: Originally posted by HoopsCzar: quote: Originally posted by crisby pancakes:Sigh, all you do is troll and try and cause arguments and thats when people can actually decipher what you write. Just so you are aware, you may think you're being clever using words with more than a couple of syllables but you seem to have no idea what they mean. This results in a number of sentences that have no structure or meaning. Please do yourself a favour and start contributing to this board. Posting with the sole aim of antagonising people is neither mature nor clever. Until you do Hoopczar, you're one more troll that goes on my ignore list. Mods please can you have a polite word with this person? His posts have the sole intention of antagonising people and by definition, that's a troll. I'm not trying to police these boards and I understand that you guys are extremely busy at this time during the playoffs and you do a great job here (way better than what I could ever do.)I'm just really getting fed up with this person Apologies if I have over stepped my boundaries. Oh Brother,..ROTFFLMAO !!! Bla, bla bla,.. in short aside from asking is " Bob " your name or just what you do,..you can't even SPELL antagonize and dare try to assert it. See sense we're sharing opinions be it known this is a sport's forum and I'd not only not EVER said a thing to you. I actually never even knew you existed. Yet " somehow " you're so bent , twisted, mixed up, spindled, freaked out and all that jazz. That where I was comfortable not ever noticing you or caring what your thoughts or personal problems with yourself are,..THAT bothered you. So sensible only those that share your orbital space in your Looney tune's from the freaking moon collaboration. 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See here you are trying to fling the " Troll " term around at me with Troll written all over you,..lets compare. ME - Where I'm engaging topic and combo handling halfwits like you're posturing as that deliberately begs me to show a notice or recognition of you as a mere laugh. Mind you one that's intentionally railing for me to notice, accept and or favor honoring their invitation / demand / opportunity. To be more sensible transform the exchange of your transgressions. Into a form of fan fun that we can all enjoy and get a laugh out of,..see you didn't PM that snit because you WANTED me to address you,.. AND I AM. See responding is what fun loving contributors do and ignoring your unquestionably dire request to be responded to in kind. Would be partial, prejudice, and blowning a direct request / opportunity to make a difference if they had the time to do it.[/b] YOU - One who's interjecting yourself into exchanges among others. That nobody asked nor cares what you think. 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quote: Originally posted by SlipperySam:Sheed, like Perk, is ponderous. Sheed sometimes reacts late and fouls people. He gets wrapped up with people. This hardly makes him a "thug," which I'd define as a player who deliberately sets out to injure others. Calling 171-pound Rondo a "thug," when he gets slammed to the floor as much as anyone in the league, is just plain comical. The playoffs are a time when play is more spirited because more is at stake. Rough moments occur. That doesn't mean thuggery is involved. And fouls alone don't necessarily equal thuggery. Often they're a sign that the team getting fouled more often is going to the hoop more aggressively. That helped the Magic during their comeback, by giving them opportunities for points with no time coming off the clock. My own theory as to why KG is a little more constrained this year is that, for most of the season, he was physically unable to back up his pleas for aggressiveness as the leadership torch very gradually has been largely passed to Rondo. In a sense, KG sort of grew out of the habit. Moreover, the core of the Celtics team has now been together for three seasons, and his intensity is pretty much understood and doesn't need to be amplified by theatrics. Sheed may be equally intense. He just hasn't learned restraint, which leads to a lot of techs. I did notice, at a couple of critical points in the Cleveland series, that KG was once again crouching low with his Australian crawl moves when he was really in a defensive zone. I hadn't seen that all season long, and I had a feeling it signaled that, as the linchpin of the Celtics' defense, he was most of the way back. If so, their defense promises to be more formidable than they've exhibited since 2007-08. We'll see. SlipperySam I agree, pumping your chest, swearing, etc. all that stuff happens on a basketball court everyday and hey if thats how the guy stays amped then more power to him - you honestly can't think of many players that play with more drive and intesity than him. As for the rest of the Boston team and defense, I don't think hard fouls and playing physical is "thuggery" and anyone who has been watching basketball for awhile can attest to that, guys use to get thrown to the ground and get up swinging ha ha. And the celtics and other physical defenses still play within the confines of the rules, if an offensive player wants to drive their shoulder or forearm into the defensive player and that defensive player decides to embrace the blow and maybe push back a little instead of flopping I applaud. Basketball is a contact sport, and I have seen harder fouls on a playground than that allowed in the NBA, I enjoy when teams get physical and the refs allow it. I can't stand the constant "flopping". I mean you honestly expect me to believe these giant guys fall down so easily? Its almost like acting classes are a part of rookie training camps. The celtics have good defensive schemes and make good adjustments, they have a lot of guys who can play man defensive and stick to their guy putting pressure on the ball. They make the ball handler make quick decisions which lead to turnovers and quick shots, they foul instead of give up easy shots and let guys get in rhythm. It's not like that is easy to do, its hard to play defense, and nothing annoys me more than when people say a good defensive team is "dirty" because they play physical and foul.