Emory889
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Maybe you misunderstood what I said. I said he "shoots" like Michael Redd meaning his form and release. What I do see is a solid scoring combo guard off the bench. Obviously it'll be about 2-3 years down the line but these are my opinions below:
Best case scenario: Danny Green
What I think he will be: Lou Williams
Worst case scenario: E'Twaun Moore
I think I understood you just fine. The players you listed aren't just NBA rotation players, they are actual very productive NBA players that had/are having long careers. It's very difficult to find those players in the second round and even harder to find them late in the second round where Harvey was taken. It's a clear sign that your expectations are too high when you think the worst case scenario is Moore who still managed to play a couple of seasons in the NBA. The worst case scenario is Harvey gets cut in training camp and never sniffs an NBA court.
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I have to say though, if that youtube clip is an accurate representation of his shot selection in college, it's damn impressive that he shot 43% from the 3pt line.
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I'll settle for an actual NBA rotation player. Michael Redd is the absolute moon.
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I think there's a better chance of the Magic signing me to a max deal than landing Aldridge. It's a wonderful wet dream to have though.
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...or even Dwight.
Well, there was some debate over maybe taking Okafor. No one wanted Alonzo over Shaq.
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I'm so happy. I don't think, in all my history of draft-watching, the teams I like have ever drafted the exact player I wanted
Someone clearly wasn't around at the beginning of the Shaq years.
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Every coach has their flaw. Stan's biggest flaw was that his demanding style wore on players over time....however he also said that rest was immensely overrated. Is there anyone here that wouldn't take Stan back? And for the record, by all accounts the Bulls players absolutely love Thibs. That matters a lot.
I can only begin to imagine how dominant this team's defense would be with Thib's game planning and the players he will have to work with on this roster. Just frightening.
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Not to be rude, but I'm not a fan of the star.
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From Pelton's article:
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Here's the thing… I think Pelton is totally correct. The Magic have a flawed roster.
I think Henny has accumulated a bunch of great young assets and cleared the Magic of salary cap purgatory. Do all the current pieces fit together? I don't think so. We are still dying for a rim protector, more consistent outside shooting… and a star. Henny now must find these pieces (or our pups must grow up) if we want to win.
That being said, I still think JV is a young coach who really struggled to find any sort of plan to provide consistency. His rotations were flat out mind-boggling (desperate) over the last month, and he needed to go. I wish him the very best.
I think the piece the Magic are missing is that star player. Now if Hennigan had the opportunity to draft a star player and missed, then I think there's a chance his job could be in jeopardy. I, however, have not found that to be the case. I think the GM is as safe as can be for a while, for all the reasons you have stated.
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We just lost to one of the best teams in the West. A team that just destroyed the Heat, which are a good team in the own right, the night before. I'm not sure what people were expecting to happen tonight.
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That Oladipo drive was the play of the night. That was incredible.
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His offense will get better when he learns how to finish at the rim better. I remember Oladipo struggling with this last season too, particularly the first couple of months.
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What we don't want is for our team to be dependent on Vucevic every night to perform. For him to have to demand the ball in order for us to win a game shows that we have an imbalance in consistent contribution which is pretty obvious. I believe Vucevic should have gotten the ball more that night but I also do believe the rest of the team should have played better.
You could look at the Spurs. No one demands the ball because everyone will most likely contribute or distribute effectively enough to achieve a balance.
We currently do have an imbalance in scoring until Oladipo comes back. The primary scoring options are Vuc and Tobias. Honestly, I'd rather see the ball go to Vuc in the post (against most matchups and definitely against a 70 year old Garnett) than have Tobias jack up medium range contested jumpers. I think you go to your best weapon in the 4th quarter until the other team proves they can stop it. If every team could run the Spurs continuity offense, they would. We don't have the weapons, or the passers, to run that style of offense yet.....not to mention the years of playing together that it takes to develop that level of chemistry.
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Comparing Pekovic to Gregor Clegane had me cracking up.
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Why all the Billy Donovan hate?
Or is it me? Say it's not me? Please like me! I'm so insecure!
No, I really am curious for your thoughts on Billy D, and why my suggesting he would be a good fit for this team would elicit such responses.
You really don't remember the Magic hiring him, him getting cold feet almost immediately after the press conference, then the Magic and their lawyers negotiating a buyout with Donovan's lawyers that took so long that we almost lost out on Stan too? The question you should be asking yourself is why do you like Donovan so much? Getting past the fact that most college basketball coaches have failed miserably in the NBA, we are talking about a guy that publicly embarrassed the Magic with his actions.
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I actually have this weird feeling that Billy Donovan would be the perfect coach for this team. I know he backed out on the team before. I get that it is unlikely to happen. And I know that some people don't like Billy Donovan. But hear me out:
The ownership clearly liked him before; so if they were convinced he's committed, I see no reason they wouldn't like him again. He might be more willing to leave Florida, now, since the high of the back-to-back championships is worn down a bit.
As to why he's perfect for this team: Watch last year's Gators. Scrappy, low-ego guys who played hard, even if they weren't the most talented team; and they were the best team in the nation who basically just couldn't beat one team. They lost three games, all to Final Four teams . . . without a single NBA draft pick in the starting lineup. Now look at the back-to-back championship team. Sure, it had three NBA players on the roster, two of whom were very good NBA players. But the success of the team was for the same reasons those guys have had success in the League: scrappy, low-ego guys who played hard every night. One of the odd things about Billy Donovan is that he seems to have more success when he has less outside shooters. One really good one and a few guys who can make people play somewhat honest seems best for him. Even when he went to the championship game with Mike Miller, the hallmark of that team was that they shared the ball a ton and played great defense. His less successful years have been when he had players who tried to do too much by themselves (the black spot on humanity that is Matt Walsh, the disappointment that was Kenny Boynton, the only minimal talent on the team that was Nick Calathes).
Look at the team in Orlando. What do we want from these guys? What does Hennigan seem to be building? He's bringing in a bunch of scrappy, low-ego guys who are known for work ethic and playing hard every night. They're not great shooters, but they have all shown that they are the types of players who sacrifice for the team. Billy Donovan basically does one thing REALLY well. He gets his guys to buy into and develop as a team. I have a feeling he would love Aaron Gordon, a potential PF who can pass and handle the ball. Billy would have Dipo and Elf hounding guys on the outside, and doing it without that recklessness that other "players' coach' guys tend to see. Billy Donovan creates teams that control the tempo of games. The players in Orlando are perfect for being developed into that type of team.
I'm not saying I think this will happen; because i REALLY don't. I'm just saying I'd love to see it.
I'm going to need you to punch yourself in the face until you come to your senses.
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Can't be real.
I sincerely hope not.
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You have no idea how happy this makes me. I also second the podcast idea.
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What do you think he projects to be long term?
Haha, hopefully a poor man's PJ Brown. DOM has my hopes up now.
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Right.
We're talking about a player whose best case scenario is "PJ Brown, with worse defense but better passing."
Pump the breaks a bit on how important a building block he is, guys.
I'll be pretty ecstatic with a poor man's PJ Brown.
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There were a lot of people on here that liked Payton. I think most just assumed we would probably go point guard if one of the big 3 didn't fall.
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I don't think you guys can list a multiple time allstar as a Magic killer. Billups was killing a lot of teams when he was in his prime. That said, he definitely gave us fits. That entire Pistons team did.
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The East will be better this year. I don't think teams will be able to suck and still make the playoffs like last season.
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If what a wrote is coming off as 'hostile' to you then you may be a tad 'soft'. I'm saying the Cavs have been gifted 3 of 4 first overall picks and I'm not feeling sorry for them or their fans since we've had no such luck since losing Dwight. Are you picking up what I'm putting down?
Well this was fun. Let's never do it again.
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