ball junkie

My sources just told me that Brian is gone!! Definitively!!!

quote: Originally posted by Nyce_1: quote: Originally posted by ball junkie:Otis is saying, look Brian, you change your offense to more up-tempo and Jameer will flourish. Brian is saying, look Otis, Jameer is not a point guard, doesn't see the floor well, doesn't get his teammates involved, can't feed the post, is basically a 5'10 shooting guard who turns the ball over a lot. We need a new point guard. What came first, the chicken or the egg? This is the perfect question to describe our situation. All good coaches, more than likely, change their schemes to benefit the players he has at hand. Also, we all know Jameer's shortcomings, but didn't Napolean say the same things about MIKE BIBBY and Antonio Daniels? Otis & Co., please, please, PLEASE, look at Hill's historical patterns and notice he doesn't not know how to evaluate good talent. quote: Lastly, for the Redick fans, if Jameer starts next year you can count on your boy coming off the bench or less playing time again. Redick and Jameer starting together in the backcourt is a disaster waiting to happen. I don't think anyone would disagree with me on that one. C'mon Junkie, you know Redick wouldn't start ANYWAY since Vince will be here ;-) What I am saying Nyce and what is my opinion is that it doesn't matter what you change, your coach or your coaching style, Jameer is not a point guard! He fell in the draft for that very reason. Why do you think Vanderweide made the comments he did? C'mon on Nyce!

I really think Jameer is the crux of what Brian, Otis and Vanderweide are having philosophical differences on as we speak. Otis is saying, look Brian, you change your offense to more up-tempo and Jameer will flourish. Brian is saying, look Otis, Jameer is not a point guard, doesn't see the floor well, doesn't get his teammates involved, can't feed the post, is basically a 5'10 shooting guard who turns the ball over a lot. We need a new point guard. They are obviously having a hard time making a decision on it. And it is a crucial decision. Honestly, I have to side with Brian Hill on this one for the reasons I stated in my opening post. I just don't think Jameer has the skills to implement the point guard position. I forgot to add, anyone that watched the Detroit series knows what a defensive liability he is. Vanderweide is probably in the middle listening to Otis make his pitch and then Brian throws in his two cents. Bob is obviously gonna take his time to make a decision cause it's a big one. Lastly, for the Redick fans, if Jameer starts next year you can count on your boy coming off the bench or less playing time again. Redick and Jameer starting together in the backcourt is a disaster waiting to happen. I don't think anyone would disagree with me on that one.

Here's a quote from the Florida Today and John Denton: quote: "I really think we have to re-think how we use a 6-foot point guard in our system," said Vander Weide, who left Orlando Thursday and returned to his home in Grand Rapids, Mich. "We're not sure what Jameer is (a starter or reserve), but we know he's good for this franchise." See to me, this is the key. Our point guard play. I don't care what coach you bring in here or what system, be it up-tempo or not, you still have to have a point guard to implement it. Whatever system or coach you use the point guard still has to quarterback the team, make good decisions on the floor, get others involved in the offense, have good court vision and be able to feed the post. Did Jameer do anything this year to convince you guys he can do these things? I don't see Jameer being able to do it. Anybody else agree or disagree? I hear you Knappy!(lol) To me he is a shooting guard. That's why he slipped in the draft after being named the college player of the year. Other GM's saw the same thing. To further, with an up-tempo offense like Otis is talking about wanting I could see more turnovers next year then this year. Don't forget, VanderWeide said Jameer was 6-foot but in actuality he is probably only 5'10 if that. I actually think Arroyo would function much better for our team in an up-tempo offense cause he doesn't turn the ball over as much. http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/...05040352/1002/SPORTS

I'm not gonna give you guys a chance to gloat cause I'm gonna do it for you!(lol) I never took part in all the bashing and name-calling because frankly, that's not my style and more importantly I didn't think it would do one d-a-m-n bit of good. Anybody that follows the Magic knows they are good at keeping everything in house and usually don't let public opinion sway their thinking. Little did I know. Obviously all the websites and complaining had a big hand in accomplishing what everyone wanted. Yes, that includes me too. I saw the same things everybody else did I just didn't join the posse cause I didn't think things would change. The board was becoming almost unbelievably unbearable. I couldn't stand all the constant negativity around my favorite team. And probably the most important reason is that Brian and Otis are now having philosophical differences. Again, props to the "Fire Brian Hill Crew". You guys had a "major" role in the coach's soon to be dismissal. I want to share something with you guys that is very telling about what was going on with the team and Brian this year. Since the season ended I have been e-mailing with every Magic sportswriter and getting their opinion's on the problems with the team this year. Everyone of them admitted to me that the team on top of the coaching defiencies needed personnel upgrades also. Most put it at 50-50. The same thing I have been saying all year. One of the writer's I e-mailed was Tony Jones of the Daytona News-Journal. He was in the Magic's locker room right after the final game with Detroit in which we were swept. I asked him to put a percent on whether our problems were more personnel related or coaching. This was his very in-depth response: quote: Mr. Junkie, Thank you taking an interest in my articles. I would say the Magic's problems are 70 percent coaching, 30 percent personnel issues. I'll try to breakdown the personnel part first: J.J. Redick should not be on this roster. He was a reach to take that high in the first round. He's never going to develop into a starter. The most he'll be able to do is become a shooter off the bench. The magic, last June, should've taken either Ronnie Brewer, or Rodney Carney, or even Marcus Williams. Obviously, this is revisionist history. But Orlando really needed an athletic shooting guard who could shoot the ball like Carney. Other than that, Hedo Turkoglu is a one-trick pony. Either he's making shots, or he's useless. He doesn't rebound, he doesn't play defense. Jameer Nelson is a good guard, but he's better suited to be coming off the bench. Orlando really needs another wing guy who can score and play defense. Maybe they get that through free agency, remember they don't have a first round pick, maybe they don't. But until they get another scorer and another point guard, this team will struggle offensively. Coaching? That's a mess. This team tuned Brian Hill out towards the end of the year. There's really not that much harmony internally, and when I went into the lockerroom yesterday after the game, there was a sense of relief that the season was over. Hill is not a good game coach, this team doesn't develop talent well, and they aren't really motivated that much. There's no sense of urgency within the team, and they take losses too well. That goes with coaching. X's and O's-wise, Hill is a trainwreck. Take yesterday for example. With 60 seconds left, down 3 to the pistons and the season on the line, Hill doesn't call timeout, and Nelson gives the ball to Darko in hopes of getting a score. Not Dwight Howard. Not Grant Hill. Darko. Of course, he throws up a brick and the Magic loses. But, a timeout and a drawn up play in that situation was what was really needed. It didn't happen. The Magic lost, over the course of the season, 15 games to teams that aren't in the playoffs. That's not a good stat, and it goes back to coaching. This team really needs another coach, but they need some better players also. So, it is a little bit of both Hope that helps, Tony Jones Interesting huh? His comments about Brian and the lockeroom have had me worrying since I read it. Finally, yeah, I did defend Coach Hill periodically. I was willing to give him another shot with better talent. I did it because 1.)I didn't think Vanderweide would let him go and 2.)The constant bashing, name-calling and negativity on these boards was driving me nuts. I think if the Fire Brian crew was honest they would admit they went a little overboard...hint, hint Knappy!(lol) Anyway, it's over now or officially pretty soon so let's see what improvements this team is gonna make over the summer.

quote: Orlando Magic coach Brian Hill's job in jeopardy Brian Schmitz | Sentinel Staff Writer Posted May 2, 2007, 8:41 PM EDT Brian Hill is no longer guaranteed of keeping his job as head coach of the Orlando Magic, and might not know his fate for two to three weeks, the Orlando Sentinel has learned. "People ask me if Brian Hill will be back as our coach. All I can say is that I have no answer for that right now," Magic President Bob Vander Weide told the Sentinel on Wednesday. The Magic had said after the team was swept in the playoffs by the Detroit Pistons that they expected Hill to be back, but Vander Weide said on Wednesday, "Sometimes there are no quarantees in life." Vander Weide said there are some philosophical issues between management and Hill, chiefly among those is the team's style of play. "We have to see if there wasn't the opportunity to run the ball more. Style of play is one of the key things," Vander Weide said. Hill could not be reached for comment. Hill, 59, has two years remaining on a four-year contract he signed in May of 2005. Vander Weide said he wants to take "two to three weeks" to "go through the process" of evaluating his team's past season and the job that Hill did. Hill led the Magic to their first playoff appearance since 2003 after the young, erratic team finished 40-42. The Magic started the season strong at 13-4 and were 22-14 in early January. But they slumped badly, partly because of injuries and losses to sub. 500 teams before rallying to clinch a postseason berth. As the No. 8 seed, they drew the No. l seeded Pistons, but were no match despite some competitive games. "I can tell you there is a certain level of frustration the way we limped into the playoffs," Vander Weide said. The Magic had said even while the team struggled that they still had confidence in Hill. General Manager Otis Smith told the Sentinel before the Magic faced the Houston Rockets on March 11 that he expected Hill to "fulfill his contractual obligations" through 2009. Although he became a target of fan criticism --- one launched a FireBrianHill.org Website --- Hill had said he was not worried about "my job security." But by the end of the season, Hill was receiving lukewarm endorsements from Vander Weide and Smith. Vander Weide said after the Magic were ousted by the Pistons that he was "satisfied" with his team, and a day later, Smith said he "expected" Hill to return. Smith said Sunday at RDV Sportsplex after the Magic met for the final time that the club might have to "take a look" at its offense to see "if we're getting the best out of our guys." The Magic finished 27th (out of 30 teams) in scoring at 94.8 points per game and next-to-last in assists distributed and turnovers committed. Center Dwight Howard and point guard Jameer Nelson ranked first and second in making turnovers. Nelson admitted he was disappointed in his play in his first season as a full-time starter. Asked on 740 The Team during his weekly segment Wednesday if Nelson was the team's point guard of the future, Smith said it depended on the offense. "It depends on how we play. If we continue to play the style we've been playing, maybe not," Smith said. "But if we increase the tempo a little bit --- which we're talking about --- I think he can be." Hill wouldn't say on Sunday whether the Magic needed to upgrade at point guard. In fact, when told that Smith said the Magic's biggest need this offseason was a scorer, Hill said he was not comfortable giving his opinion, adding he would "defer" to the general manager. Hill was hired for the second time by the Magic on May 24, 2005, taking over for interim coach Chris Jent. Jent had replaced Johnny Davis, who was fired as head coach. Hill had been fired by the Magic after a player revolt in 1997, ending a near four-year run in which Hill took Orlando to the NBA Finals in 1995. In his first season back with the team in 2005-06, Hill led the Magic to a 36-46 record --- the same record they compiled under Davis and Jent the previous season. "We're doing our due diligence," Vander Weide said. "We want to get to a point where we can say the Orlando Magic are competing for championships, and that means evaluating our playing personnel and our coaching personnel." Im shocked! If he goes I told you I would be the first one to admit I was wrong. With stuff like this coming out I think he's gone!!! At least they are doing it at the right time to get another coach. Stunning!!! http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/local/orl-bk-bria...orl-sports-headlines

quote: Originally posted by emory889:I was thinking the same thing. Losing one or two players could be devastating to a team. Losing half the team is completely unacceptable. It depends on which players he is losing. If your star player(Dwight) is giving you a vote of confidence and is getting ready to sign a huge 5-year contract I think that bodes well for Brian. Last night I thought he was done. Now, I'm not as sure. One more thought, Brian likes to play the inside out offense like he did with Shaq. I don't think it's a coincidence he's(Dwight) giving Brian props. That's the offense Dwight wants. Running it through him. Just an opinion. Time will tell.

I was just watching Pardon the Interruption on ESPN and they were talking about the Magic and Brian Hill. The white guy(can't remember his name) said he didn't think Brian Hill should be let go. He said they made the playoffs with a very young team.

quote: Originally posted by The Ghost of John Gabriel: quote: Originally posted by ball junkie:As far as his comments about Redick, I'm not going to debate who we should have drafted. I've spent many a day doing that on these boards. I totally agree with him on his assesment of Redick's ability though. I don't want to hijack this thread but our own GM Otis Smith himself compares J.J. to Steve Kerr. He spent a career coming off the bench and shooting 3's. Sounds like a good comparison to me. I'd add if it is Otis' opinion, JJ never should have been drafted by the Magic @ #11. You just echoed the thoughts of the writer I orignally quoted.

quote: Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:Not to be a party pooper or anything but I just heard Denton on 740 talking with Jerry and Shot. He said that the problem between management and Hill comes from his inflexibility in both playing style and who he plays. He said that he was told that management told Hill to play JJ 2 or 3 times before he actually did it. He also mentioned that while Otis believes we need a scorer Hill wants a bigger PG (yes we knew that). Denton then said in his opinion he thinks Hill will be back however management will demand that he changes his ways. My question is why are we having to demand that he changes how he does things? Do we really want someone here that will not listen to reason? Do we want a coach that doesn't see eye to eye with the people putting the players together? My biggest concern is, what will happen when he is coaching during a game? He is going to do what he wants not what he is told to do. There was some good news though! Denton said he talked with Aaron Goodwin, Dwight's agent and Dwight will be signing a 5 yr extension in July and Dwight has no problem with Hill. Wow! Thanks for the news Marc!! If Dwight says everything is cool between hin and Brian maybe he will be coming back. Thanks for the update and anyone else that hears anything we are all ears.

quote: Originally posted by The Ghost of John Gabriel:I don't think anybody feels this team doesn't need personel upgrades considering two of the hottest topics on this board have been trades and free agency. This is the first time I've ever even heard of Tony Jones, but that single comment about Redick the epitome of ignorance. Rodney Carney & Corey Brewer??? LOL, ya, those two tore it up this year. Corey Brewer is a bigger and more athletic Jeryll Sasser. They are starting Derek Fisher at SG they are so desperate at the position. I garauntee you if Orlando hadn't drafted Redick, he would be in Utah starting at SG. Rodney Carney, unlike JJ, had every opportunity to play this season, and produced along the lines of Redick. Honestly, I think he has just started writing cause I haven't read to much of his stuff either. As far as his comments about Redick, I'm not going to debate who we should have drafted. I've spent many a day doing that on these boards. I totally agree with him on his assesment of Redick's ability though. I don't want to hijack this thread but our own GM Otis Smith himself compares J.J. to Steve Kerr. He spent a career coming off the bench and shooting 3's. Sounds like a good comparison to me.

Can someone post what was said and their thoughts? My dial-up computer breaks up during an audio broadcast. My neighborhood is relatively new and there is no DSL out here yet.

quote: Originally posted by WPMagic:Don't count your chickens before they hatch... I think it's over for him WP. I cannot fathom the backlash that would occur publically if they tried to mend relationships between Brian and management, players now. Trying to bring him back would be disastrous! Honestly, after reading my initial post from a guy who was in the Magic lockeroom after Game 4 I don't think there is anybody left who thinks anything positive could occur by bringing Brian back for another season.

I'm not gonna give you guys a chance to gloat cause I'm gonna do it for you!(lol) I never took part in all the bashing and name-calling because frankly, that's not my style and more importantly I didn't think it would do one d-a-m-n bit of good. Anybody that follows the Magic knows they are good at keeping everything in house and usually don't let public opinion sway their thinking. Little did I know. Obviously all the websites and complaining had a big hand in accomplishing what everyone wanted. Yes, that includes me too. I saw the same things everybody else did I just didn't join the posse cause I didn't think things would change. The board was becoming almost unbelievably unbearable. I couldn't stand all the constant negativity around my favorite team. And probably the most important reason is that Brian and Otis are now having philosophical differences. Again, props to the "Fire Brian Hill Crew". You guys had a "major" role in the coach's soon to be dismissal. I want to share something with you guys that is very telling about what was going on with the team and Brian this year. Since the season ended I have been e-mailing with every Magic sportswriter and getting their opinion's on the problems with the team this year. Everyone of them admitted to me that the team on top of the coaching defiencies needed personnel upgrades also. Most put it at 50-50. The same thing I have been saying all year. One of the writer's I e-mailed was Tony Jones of the Daytona News-Journal. He was in the Magic's locker room right after the final game with Detroit in which we were swept. I asked him to put a percent on whether our problems were more personnel related or coaching. This was his very in-depth response: quote: Mr. Junkie, Thank you taking an interest in my articles. I would say the Magic's problems are 70 percent coaching, 30 percent personnel issues. I'll try to breakdown the personnel part first: J.J. Redick should not be on this roster. He was a reach to take that high in the first round. He's never going to develop into a starter. The most he'll be able to do is become a shooter off the bench. The magic, last June, should've taken either Ronnie Brewer, or Rodney Carney, or even Marcus Williams. Obviously, this is revisionist history. But Orlando really needed an athletic shooting guard who could shoot the ball like Carney. Other than that, Hedo Turkoglu is a one-trick pony. Either he's making shots, or he's useless. He doesn't rebound, he doesn't play defense. Jameer Nelson is a good guard, but he's better suited to be coming off the bench. Orlando really needs another wing guy who can score and play defense. Maybe they get that through free agency, remember they don't have a first round pick, maybe they don't. But until they get another scorer and another point guard, this team will struggle offensively. Coaching? That's a mess. This team tuned Brian Hill out towards the end of the year. There's really not that much harmony internally, and when I went into the lockerroom yesterday after the game, there was a sense of relief that the season was over. Hill is not a good game coach, this team doesn't develop talent well, and they aren't really motivated that much. There's no sense of urgency within the team, and they take losses too well. That goes with coaching. X's and O's-wise, Hill is a trainwreck. Take yesterday for example. With 60 seconds left, down 3 to the pistons and the season on the line, Hill doesn't call timeout, and Nelson gives the ball to Darko in hopes of getting a score. Not Dwight Howard. Not Grant Hill. Darko. Of course, he throws up a brick and the Magic loses. But, a timeout and a drawn up play in that situation was what was really needed. It didn't happen. The Magic lost, over the course of the season, 15 games to teams that aren't in the playoffs. That's not a good stat, and it goes back to coaching. This team really needs another coach, but they need some better players also. So, it is a little bit of both Hope that helps, Tony Jones Interesting huh? His comments about Brian and the lockeroom have had me worrying since I read it. Finally, yeah, I did defend Coach Hill periodically. I was willing to give him another shot with better talent. I did it because 1.)I didn't think Vanderweide would let him go and 2.)The constant bashing, name-calling and negativity on these boards was driving me nuts. I think if the Fire Brian crew was honest they would admit they went a little overboard...hint, hint Knappy!(lol) Anyway, it's over now or officially pretty soon so let's see what improvements this team is gonna make over the summer.

quote: Originally posted by bhnole:Brian is gone, no way can he recover with any authority after this. The only time that happens is when a "players" coach's job is in jeopardy and the players rally around him. Like they did Isiah this season until his extension was signed. Does anyone foresee the players rallying around Brian? I didn't think so. The truth is the rule changes have outdated Brian's plodding inside out philosophy. It work in Shaq's day because zone defenses were outlawed and handchecking on the perimeter was allowed. The league changed the rules to entice scoring and Brian never adjusted and can't, it is his MO. Instead of allowing Jameer and Carlos use their talents in transition he handcuffed them, turning a position that everyone had thought was a strenght this summer into a weakness. The climate of the NBA has changed, just look at who is succeeding in this league. Teams who push the tempo, often play small ball and can shoot. Otis goes out and finds Brian two shooters in Kebo and JJ. All Brian does is bury them on the bench since they don't fit "his" philisophy. The fact is coaches have to adapt to new rules and like the dinosaurs, Brian is incapable of adaptation. Which in the choice of our next coach has me leaning toward Marc Ivaroni and not Adelman. I know he's a good coach but he is getting up there in age. I'm very curious to see how Phoenix ends up in the playoffs this year cause I'm still not convinced that style of play can win you a championship. But, boy is it ever fun to watch! If Phoenix wins it all I'd say Marc Ivaroni is my choice.

quote: Originally posted by Nyce_1: quote: Originally posted by RoBo2002:Im just hanging around this thread to see Knappy's reaction when he reads this! Me too. Knappy, Smack, O-Dub, and Hutchence. I just called Smack on the phone. I got his answering machine and told him of the news. He probably didn't answer cause I pissed him off today.(lol)

Who is this guy and where does his info come from? Sources please anyone?

quote: Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16:I think the team making positive moves to improve the teams future can only help. You could tell that people were frustrated with the way the team was playing by mid season, this shows that the team is committed to putting the best possible product on the floor. Acres, are you surprised? I really didn't think Vanderweide would do it. I'm still shocked! Or did your insiders keep you informed about the situation.(lol)

All I know is if he's gone like I think he is it will be a big relief for "all" Magic fans! This place used to be such a positive place. Lately, I could hardly stand logging on to the site. You guys know this is my favorite spot. The tension all year long from watching this team has just about killed us all! Maybe, just maybe we get a legitimate upgrade on coaching and personnel and shake up the Eastern conference next year. After what our organization has been through the last 6 or 7 years we are definitely overdue for a winning product. How do you guys think this will effect trying to get the committe to pass the agenda for a new arena?

I was supporting giving the coach another chance because I didn't think I had any choice. I didn't think there was any way Vanderweide would let the guy go. Especially since he handpicked him this time again. After leaking this news to the media I don't see how they can keep him employed now. Surely they won't drag this out for 2 or 3 weeks?

quote: Orlando Magic coach Brian Hill's job in jeopardy Brian Schmitz | Sentinel Staff Writer Posted May 2, 2007, 8:41 PM EDT Brian Hill is no longer guaranteed of keeping his job as head coach of the Orlando Magic, and might not know his fate for two to three weeks, the Orlando Sentinel has learned. "People ask me if Brian Hill will be back as our coach. All I can say is that I have no answer for that right now," Magic President Bob Vander Weide told the Sentinel on Wednesday. The Magic had said after the team was swept in the playoffs by the Detroit Pistons that they expected Hill to be back, but Vander Weide said on Wednesday, "Sometimes there are no quarantees in life." Vander Weide said there are some philosophical issues between management and Hill, chiefly among those is the team's style of play. "We have to see if there wasn't the opportunity to run the ball more. Style of play is one of the key things," Vander Weide said. Hill could not be reached for comment. Hill, 59, has two years remaining on a four-year contract he signed in May of 2005. Vander Weide said he wants to take "two to three weeks" to "go through the process" of evaluating his team's past season and the job that Hill did. Hill led the Magic to their first playoff appearance since 2003 after the young, erratic team finished 40-42. The Magic started the season strong at 13-4 and were 22-14 in early January. But they slumped badly, partly because of injuries and losses to sub. 500 teams before rallying to clinch a postseason berth. As the No. 8 seed, they drew the No. l seeded Pistons, but were no match despite some competitive games. "I can tell you there is a certain level of frustration the way we limped into the playoffs," Vander Weide said. The Magic had said even while the team struggled that they still had confidence in Hill. General Manager Otis Smith told the Sentinel before the Magic faced the Houston Rockets on March 11 that he expected Hill to "fulfill his contractual obligations" through 2009. Although he became a target of fan criticism --- one launched a FireBrianHill.org Website --- Hill had said he was not worried about "my job security." But by the end of the season, Hill was receiving lukewarm endorsements from Vander Weide and Smith. Vander Weide said after the Magic were ousted by the Pistons that he was "satisfied" with his team, and a day later, Smith said he "expected" Hill to return. Smith said Sunday at RDV Sportsplex after the Magic met for the final time that the club might have to "take a look" at its offense to see "if we're getting the best out of our guys." The Magic finished 27th (out of 30 teams) in scoring at 94.8 points per game and next-to-last in assists distributed and turnovers committed. Center Dwight Howard and point guard Jameer Nelson ranked first and second in making turnovers. Nelson admitted he was disappointed in his play in his first season as a full-time starter. Asked on 740 The Team during his weekly segment Wednesday if Nelson was the team's point guard of the future, Smith said it depended on the offense. "It depends on how we play. If we continue to play the style we've been playing, maybe not," Smith said. "But if we increase the tempo a little bit --- which we're talking about --- I think he can be." Hill wouldn't say on Sunday whether the Magic needed to upgrade at point guard. In fact, when told that Smith said the Magic's biggest need this offseason was a scorer, Hill said he was not comfortable giving his opinion, adding he would "defer" to the general manager. Hill was hired for the second time by the Magic on May 24, 2005, taking over for interim coach Chris Jent. Jent had replaced Johnny Davis, who was fired as head coach. Hill had been fired by the Magic after a player revolt in 1997, ending a near four-year run in which Hill took Orlando to the NBA Finals in 1995. In his first season back with the team in 2005-06, Hill led the Magic to a 36-46 record --- the same record they compiled under Davis and Jent the previous season. "We're doing our due diligence," Vander Weide said. "We want to get to a point where we can say the Orlando Magic are competing for championships, and that means evaluating our playing personnel and our coaching personnel." Im shocked! If he goes I told you I would be the first one to admit I was wrong. With stuff like this coming out I think he's gone!!! At least they are doing it at the right time to get another coach. Stunning!!! http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/local/orl-bk-bria...orl-sports-headlines

quote: Originally posted by D-BoFats:Okay, now there are 16 topics about Brian Hill on the first page. I imagine the first 3 pages are 99% related to Brian Hill. There's only so much you can say about the issue. Put it to rest guys. It's becoming comical!(lol) Maybe these guys really are possessed. Heaven help us!

Otis has been saying all year long everybody would be evaluated at the end of the year. Including himself You guys are grasping for straws here. Frankly, Magic management would look even more inept if they fired Brian right now. Especially in light of the fact of how supportive they have been of him this year and the circumstances behind his last firing. I think it's Vanderweide's call and he's the guy who wanted him in the first place. To me it's a done deal he's coming back. The fire Brian crew is just trying to keep the pot stirred.

And I'm not a big fan of Brian Hill either. I do tire of the majority of this board blaming everything on Brian. I mean are you kidding me? We lead the league by far in to's. Our all-star player is on pace to set the franchise record for to's in a season. On top of that we are next to last in the league in free-throw shooting. Only the Heat is worse. A turnover machine mostly because our starting point guard is a shooting guard trying to handle the ball. And bad free-throw shooting on top of that is not a recipe for success in the NBA. I think Brian deserves kudo's for getting us to 38 wins! I honestly don't think Phil Jackson could take this same roster and win much more than Brian has. You think last night's meltdown was bad? It's the same thing we've been doing all year long. It's like John Denton said in his blog today: quote: If you missed the Magic season you could have caught up in one night Sunday. The wildly erratic 88-86 defeat of Boston was emblematic of a disjointed season. And I give Otis credit for sticking with his coach even if he's not the greatest thing since sliced bread. I'm glad Magic management is gonna bust up this roster this summer because in my opinion nobody could take these players, on top of the youth it has and do much more than Brian Hill. http://forums.floridatoday.com/viewtopic.php?t=29363&si...cfbbc8b2c7cc5973cc15

Knappy, you know good and well if Nick hits those free throws and the Magic win game 1 we would have ended up winning the championship! Just kidding Knappy but it very well could have happened. Don't forget we were kicking their butt for most of that game, I think.