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There's no way Washington would ever trade beal within the division
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1 hour ago, ML6 said:It wasn’t discussed much because we came out with the W, but I wanted to comment on the Clifford timeout thing. Based on his reaction, a timeout he was trying to call was missed again. I went back and watched the play multiple times, and I’m not sure I buy this one. I certainly hope he’s not going to make this into his thing.
The first problem is that Fultz pretty much inbounded it immediately after he was handed the ball. Cliff was not attempting to call a timeout leading up to the ref handing the ball to Fultz. During the handoff, he seemed to lean in slightly toward the ref and possibly say something — I assume this was his attempt to call timeout. But again it was pretty much simultaneous with Fultz launching it in because of how quickly he hot-potatoed it.
Clifford needs to be more demonstrative if he’s really trying to get these timeouts and they’re being missed. It’s loud at the end of the game. The Knicks miss was more egregious because he was at least running up the sideline. On this one, he barely did anything. Didn’t make a hand signal, didn’t hop out in front of the ref. At some point he needs to pull a Spoelstra/Rivers and make his intention clear, otherwise it could keep happening.
I kind of thought the same thing.
He was standing next to the guy so maybe he didn't do the signal but it wasn't like the other thing.
Last night I wondered if he said that to get a makeup call. We got away with physical defense the last minute.
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10 minutes ago, harryfromphilly said:thanks
hoped that it was something like that
really hoping that even if his development is slow,
it trends in the right direction and usage increases with it
This isn't something that he can change in the short term. He's still an outsider on a team full of veterans who have been here forever. He's joining an established team. So he's judicious about picking his spots and he'll be that way until he takes ownership over this roster.
You see it from time to time. Every few games he'll get frustrated and just take over. So it exists in him. And we don't really deviate and install specific packages for specific matchups during the regular season.
It's one of the reasons I'm excited about the playoffs. Team philosophy changes so that's the time we might run specific plays for him instead of having him run the offense exclusively.
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32 minutes ago, harryfromphilly said:hi
was traveling last night and could not watch the game
was markelle as much a non factor as his stats indicate?
5 pts 4 tos?
ok 7 assts. lol
or do that stats just not show what he was up to?
No. Brooklyn's game plan was to limit him as last time he dropped 25 on them so they built everything to disrupt his drives and closed out on his mid-range. So he facilitated. Should have had 12 assists. Guys bricked a bunch of open shots.
Fultz was sloppy early and his shot looked bad relative to where it was a few games ago but he wasn't a non-factor. He's just not going to force offense when there's "better" shots available.
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7 minutes ago, ~O~ said:So.....I just check the final score after giving up mid way through the quarter as the magic looked like the magic.
My reaction was literally...I mean...literally: "WHAT THE *****?!.......lmao".
Ross and Gordon went 15 for 16 from the field in the second half and hit 7 threes
Also Gordon did this:
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Just now, jec said:Gordon just activated all star mode
Shot 100% in the second half
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What a gritty win that should be big on setting the culture for the next two months.
But if we take a step back on Wednesday it's pointless
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It's like the team had a collective epiphany
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1 hour ago, TrueMagicFanSince1987 said:Fultz4thewin posted a graphic that shows Ennis is shooting 20 % from wide open 3’s and Wes is hitting 47.1 % and yet he is the odd man out. Doesn’t make any sense to me when we lack a decent outside threat and good defense/hustle yet we bury guys like Iwundu on the bench who do exactly that. Assistant coach moves at it’s finest.
I mean I definitely think there's logic behind getting a real 3 and D guy in with the starters because iwundu is too inconsistent. Iwundu tends to produce in waves and you probably want someone more reliable in there.
I'm just not sure why anyone ever thought that was ennis.
Ennis might get hot and hit 4 threes in a game. Iwundu has never made more than 2. That's the only real difference on offense
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11 minutes ago, JJZFL said:I don’t think we’re saying the same thing. We don’t need a spectacular playmaker off the bench and we don’t need to rely on one guy forcing up contested shots and hitting threes at 32%. Move the ball more. Use all 5 guys. Several have a higher three point percentage than Ross. Get some open looks with ball movement. Let some other guys take shots and get into rhythm. Everyone will look better.
You don't get open looks with ball movement. You get open looks with penetration and forcing the defense to help.
So, yeah, it's nice we have a bunch of shooters on the bench but you need a guy who can do stuff with the ball to create open looks for teammates.
We should be playing Vucevic more with the bench. We should be playing Bamba more with the starters. It would solve a ton of our issues.
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5 minutes ago, Jay Magic said:I guarantee he plays again this season
Well you can't guarantee that but like I said a little while ago. His timetable matches up with a mid March return.
I'm not sure if we'll risk having him play but normal people can return to sports 4-6 weeks after he's no longer immobilized which
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Here's how we're shooting on wide open threes over the past 10 games.
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25 minutes ago, BBROSS said:Lets not forget with those tough threes he often draws alot of fouls that turn into 3 free throws.
That is true. His ft rate is almost double what he's done in the past. He's only 7 ft attempts away from hitting his attempts from last year.
It's tough with Ross because not every contested three is bad. But a number of them are
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Ross would be shooting 36.5% from 3 if he just took open and wide open threes.
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Vucevic has the easiest 3 point shooting profile in the entire league.
Ross has the hardest.
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8 minutes ago, JJZFL said:I agree. I hope we do better than 2-2 but I’m none too confident.
Brooklyn favored by 3-4 for tonight’s game. That’s about the same amount Dallas was favored by against us.
That's why I said should and not will
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18 minutes ago, Tank Vogel said:That's a tough ask with 3/4 on the road, including San Antonio on the 2nd night of a b2b.
Probably.
We still probably should though.
We should beat Brooklyn tonight.
We should beat Atlanta.
We should beat Minnesota without towns.
We should beat a San Antonio team that's slowly sliding out of the playoff race
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We should probably go 4-0 over the next 4
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14 minutes ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:I know it's probably nothing but can anyone reveal the big secret?
I'm the past we liked to defend in the 4th quarter on our end of the court. Now we're playing offense on that end
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3 minutes ago, hootie249 said:I honestly believe there are people in this business who do not watch other teams play. I think our Gm is one of them. Like i said in another post i'm sure this board would have done a better job as gm the last 8 years. Just use the up vote, down vote system to make decisions! LOL!
This is a pretty naive post. We have scouts whose sole job is to watch other teams and discuss NBA players.
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10 hours ago, hootie249 said:You all overestimate both this front office and the last.If we had lost enough to take Porzingus we would have misused him.If we had lost enough to be third the year Tatum was taken, Danny would have taken Tatum anyway and fleeced us for Markelle. If we had somehow gotten the third pick in the Doncic draft i bet we would have worked a trade for Ayton. This is the Orlando Magic now. I would have rather had all of you, this board being the Gm together.How would we look if we had just got Beasly at the deadline?Not even an All-star, not even a player on the national media's radar. Malik Beasly! With this defense? We can't even get the little moves right! Freaking Aminu, Ennis, WHO!!!!!!!
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52 minutes ago, ML6 said:Isn't that kind of an issue though? Shouldn't Cliff be able to recognize things that might be short term detriments with the potential for long term benefit? He seems incapable of that.
Same thing when Bamba is held ultra accountable and Vooch is allowed to play like **** with impunity. It's not even like he has to just accept the "young guys need playing time" argument and just blindly play him... Bamba has been objectively improving and earning more minutes, yet doesn't get them.
Probably.
It's just probably a tougher decision than we make it out to be. If our issues are offense and shooting it's difficult to make the decision to move away from our "best" two offensive players. Fultz keeps slowly getting more responsibility so we probably feel like we're balancing today and growth.
We're just really in a tough position for the next 27 or whatever games. The more we go away from Vucevic the worse his impact is. On the flip side the more we go away from fournier the more improved he becomes.
But we have to win basketball games. But Bamba specifically seems hindered by the tight leash Clifford has him on. And fultz seems ready to take on the role we need him to take but there's still mistakes he makes as a young player that hurt us sometimes.
I'm on team "hand the keys over to the young guys and let them be responsible for our success or failure" but I also recognize that it's easy for me to say that because I want to maximize the future while Clifford is more focused on Dallas and it's difficult to change a team's identity mid season.
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26 minutes ago, TrueMagicFanSince1987 said:It’s crazy how true fans that watch the games night in and out can see what the coach is oblivious to. It all starts with accountability and if a certain player or players aren’t playing team ball they should be benched. Our coach doesn’t have the cojones to do that though which is our major flaw as a team.
The problem is a fournier-Vucevic pick and roll is the most efficient thing we do. So when we say "give the ball to fultz" it's pushing a less effective strategy.
We're operating on the presumption that fultz will fix a lot of that with more reps and more defined responsibility (and he's already pretty close to eclipsing Fournier so it's not like the drop off would be huge). Plus he'd make fournier more effective by opening up more catch and shoot opportunities.
So we have to hope fultz starts taking that role from fournier with improvement vs having Clifford just give it to him. Because that won't happen as long as these numbers stay the same.
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2019-2020 Official Regular Season Thread
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It's just a common thing. Russillo just went on a rant the other day about how Houston really wanted to trade Capella out of the West. It's pointless.
It's more about having to face a potential mistake I think. We're guaranteed to play Washington 4 times every year and potentially another 7 times in the playoffs. That's a lot of reminders about how things went wrong.