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1 minute ago, TrueMagicFanSince1987 said:I recall reading an article where he was averaging 40 percent before he got benched can’t remember where I read it and don’t have the time to look it up. Last year he was at 37.1 and he was actually getting minutes. Give the guy playing time and I’ll take 37.1 percent any day.
The 40% is what you get if you just go by what he's done in 2020. But iwundu is such low volume that I'm not sure it's actually real. What that's basically saying is iwundu is a good three point shooter because in 22 games he hit 19 out of 44 threes. But he'd be below average if he hit 15 out of 44 threes.
Last year he hit 29 of 79 threes to get to 36.7% but he'd be below average if he hit 27 of 79 threes.
I'm not super high on Ennis and Clark is playing because he weighs 20 pounds more than iwundu and can handle bigger bodies. But you can't argue with our offensive production since Ennis has entered the lineup and iwundu was benched.
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11 minutes ago, TrueMagicFanSince1987 said:In the world where he is averaging over 40 percent on his spot up 3 point shots. He’s a better player than Ennis and Clark simple enough to understand that concept. We need players that can actually shoot and hit an open shot. The definition of a 2 way player is one who can defend and hit open 3’s. I haven’t seen either of the other 2 players that are staring over him do any of the sort.
Iwundu is a 31.7% three point shooter this year...
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1 hour ago, TrueMagicFanSince1987 said:Wes is a 2 way player that doesn’t get any burn for some reason. Is he amazing probably not but he’s better than what we’ve been putting out on the floor recently namely Ennis and Clark.
In what world is 7.5ppg as a starter Wes iwundu a two way player?
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2 hours ago, Magicman28 said:Yeah but someone should tell them you don’t need them at every position
How many two way players do you think we have right now?
Gordon
Fultz
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29 minutes ago, Jay Magic said:We could of had him i am sure.
These guys better have a plan
I think we're probably more interested in two way players. Beasley can shoot but we've seen with fournier what shooting without acceptable defense can do.
People love Russell and people love Beasley but there's a reason Minnesota is 2-8 since the trades and giving up 127 ppg in that timeframe.
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2 hours ago, harley said:don't shoot me. But, what if were planning on trading the other power forward this summer and GSW offer their unprotected pick this year, wolves pick next year and Wiggins for Isaac would you bite? i'm only thinking this is done on the assumption they're worried about his injury history.
There's no chance we trade Isaac. The franchise loves him like a son.
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4 hours ago, harley said:do we still make playoffs with 34??
No. But Gordon should play
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8 minutes ago, Tank Vogel said:McCollum is weird because he has a bunch of outlier games, especially in the playoffs. Fournier is the more consistent player but he doesn't have that extra gear.
Yeah. The argument should never be fournier is better than McCollum. Just that people seem to want McCollum because he's averaging 22ppg and I'd bet they wouldn't want him if he was averaging 19ppg and I'm thinking if he was in a different situation that's what he'd average.
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4 minutes ago, TrueBlueDrew said:21 games left. If we can go 2-2 in our next 4 games. I actually would feel pretty good about the rest of March. After the Memphis away game, the next 10 games...I think we could win 7 of them. Then a tough stretch to end the season, I'm only seeing 2 wins there. That would put us at 38 wins though.
Everything depends on health.
This version of the team without Gordon probably finishes with something like 34 wins.
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Just now, IrishCelticHater said:I disagree. *in Sandler voice*
He's really not that good. He's a product of high field goal attempts.
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1 hour ago, IrishCelticHater said:Hate to be a prisoner of the moment but maybe Portland shops CJ. Lol
Portland fans hate him. He's their Fournier
We definitely overrate him because we've watched him torch Vucevic for several years now.
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The defense we play is built to give up shots in areas where McCollum is one of the most efficient shooters in the NBA.
You'd think one of these times we'd switch things up.
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2 minutes ago, Jay Magic said:NO LILLARD BUT WE GIVE UP 69!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice
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3 hours ago, Magicpassion said:As I’ve said before, if AG hits his 3s at a good clip 36%+ it’s a game changer, otherwise it hurts us. I had a certain dissertation from a person that remains nameless about AG is a perfect compliment to JI which is ridiculous when both forward spots are shooting subpar from 3; (pretty much everyone but Evan), but he criticizes everyone; no big deal. When AG is shooting 28/30% like he has all season it makes life harder on everyone and he was shooting back to his mean last game; it doesn’t work against good teams. It’s very obvious we need people that can shoot, otherwise the game plan for other teams is a lot easier.
Grow up
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I wonder if Vucevic was ever good in the post or if his footwork and lack of tracking stats made us think he was good.
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17 minutes ago, JJZFL said:Ennis?
Ennis can play defense and is effectively our backup 4 in small lineups.
Daniels is a lot like Meeks because he's 6'4 and can't defend. So he'd have to take mcw or DJ's spot in the rotation and DJ has a better production ceiling and MCW sometimes looks like one of our best players.
So we don't really have a spot for Daniels. If we wanted to dump Frazier for him I'd be cool with it but I also understand continuing to try and develop a guy vs dumping him for a guy who probably won't even be on the active playoff roster if Isaac comes back
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4 hours ago, Mauro Pedrosa said:yes, yes, yes!
Dead-eye shooter
We don't have a spot for him in the rotation
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3 hours ago, Magicpassion said:I suppose if you make all your assumptions you could be right, but JI and AG are still both best suited at the 4.
"4" is a pointless term. You have to stop looking at guys like pegs that can only fit one hole.
We spend most of our time lately getting Gordon switched onto smaller defenders so he can use his size and strength to get them to the rim. That doesn't change with Isaac in the lineup.
What does is our spacing. The success of Gordon and Isaac as a pair is dependent on both guys being league average shooters at worst. That's why it looked great the end of last year when both guys were hitting threes and it looked bad at times this year when both guys weren't.
This version of Gordon hitting 40% of his threes is literally the ideal match for Isaac because Gordon is built to handle the heavier stronger opponents where Isaac isn't. And Isaac covers a bunch of Gordon's weaknesses. And it sets up a situation where if Gordon is defended by 3s he can take guys to the rim but if they decide to put their 3 on Isaac he can get to his spots and shoot over them as a 6'6, 6'7 guy typically can't contest his release.
Neither guy is "better at the 4". Both are just mismatch hunters who need spacing to make that happen.
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We're not going to lose many games where the bench gives us 40
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1 minute ago, VoiceofReason said:He's definitely proving a lot of people wrong, You and me included.
Nah. I don't think this style works in the playoffs when they allow more contact
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3 minutes ago, Fultz4thewin said:I hate watching Trae. It's a bastardization of basketball
It's like a guy in the park who constantly calls foul when the rules are call your own foul. There's an honor system he's violating
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I hate watching Trae. It's a bastardization of basketball
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4 minutes ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:Not sure if this comp has been made before but tonight at least I see a lot of Porzingis.
The numbers back that up
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I wish we had 4 or 5 more wins right now so we could sacrifice some games to get Bamba some offensive confidence.
He's bad on offense and he's leading us in scoring. What's he going to look like when he gets good on that end?
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Yeah but it's more than that.
I don't know if this is true because I don't have the ability to actually measure this but the team is operating on a premise that Ennis draws the defense in more than iwundu. So the reason why Vucevic, Fournier, Gordon, and Ross are all averaging 20ppg over the past 8 games has to do with that spacing Ennis provides whereas teams didn't close out very hard on iwundu because even if they left him wide open he'd only hit 1 or 2 threes.
Now I'd argue that if this was our philosophy going into the trade deadline "get an actual 'shooter' who can play some defense to open up the starting lineup" I'm not sure that Ennis was the best candidate. And I'm not sure why we wouldn't have just started Ross if that was all we were missing.
But that's what the team is thinking.