Vellassco

quote: Originally posted by Lewis4thewin:troll is about attitude and intent, not whether you were correct or not. Feel free to take your opinions elsewhere. You meant like this? quote: Originally posted by Lewis4thewin:I hate turkey. I dont even recognize istanbul. Its all Constantinople in my mind.

Lets make it more clear for someones who still eat their brains with Devos Money: Simple Math Maniacs: Q: Hedo's production or Vince's production A: Hedo's Q: Cost of Vince? (2 years granted) A: 34.5 Mil Q: Cost of Hedo? (5 years) A: 45-48 Mil (Ring contender, Sun, Baby, Friends) Q: Difference for last 3 years? A: 10.5-13.5 Mil Q: Yearly? A: 3.5-4.5 Mil Hah

quote: Originally posted by BLUEHEART: quote: Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16: quote: Originally posted by BLUEHEART: quote: Originally posted by Aussie Magic fan:VC contract comes off the books next year. We would have been stuck with Hedo's for another 4 years. That's the main positive out of all this. I don'tsee us challenging for a Chip this year with the way we're playing. i dont know how is your math is but vince has 2 years before magic can release him, and hedo has 5 years... so difference is 3 years not 4. orlando decided to pay 2 years 34 mil instead of 5 years 50 milions Vince's has a team option after 1 yr, it's not about math it's about reading up on contracts. The option was not keep Turk and don't bother with Vince, it was over pay to keep Turk or go get Vince, big difference there. so you read both contracts i guesss. so if orlando has team option on vince after 1 year as you say, so he should eligible to release this summer because it will be 1 year... you are wrong... orlando has team option after 2. year of vince contract... believe me reading contracts good but math works also... vince has 3 years and orlando has team option after 2. year. Even if Orlando use this Team Option, it makes $65.5 mil committed Payroll in 2011-12.(Highest Payroll of the league, 2nd Denver $51.9 mil) Dont even think Salary Cap Holds.

quote: Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16: Vince's has a team option after 1 yr, it's not about math it's about reading up on contracts. The option was not keep Turk and don't bother with Vince, it was over pay to keep Turk or go get Vince, big difference there. Otis Smith: " Money Ain't A Thang" This team was set for Championship 3-4 years ego. Every year 1 or 2 player have been added to this roster and they get used to play together in time. Hedo, Dwight, Shard, Redick, Meer they are not just great players, also good friends of eachothers. Hedo has been charged to be network center of this well-shaped nervous system. Facilitator. His value is debatable, Ok, but it should be somewhere around say 7-10 mil/year. 1-1.5 more or less from Smith's initial offer. Too much? No. Otis Smith: " Money Ain't A Thang". What about contract year? Will Hedo loose his head or his arms in his 34? No. Has he been known as great athlete like Vince? No. I can count lots of players who are still dominating the league in their mid 30ies, esp play makers. So what? - The option was keep Turk - There were no relation with Vince. It was Poker Match from Smith's POV. He bluffed and failed to anticipate Hedo's hand. His prediction was somewhere btw PEC's global recession theory and DOM's PER theory (9th while A.Foyle sitting 3rd or something?). Hedo had no desire to play card game, took this action as personal and left the table. Yearly 1-2 mil ain't a thang for him too. Whatever. Smith is da Man!!! What happened next? Smith decided to cut payroll and went all in on massive luxury tax. (Bass, Gortah, Barnes). Now, you came to this point with great expectations. The theory behind having opportunities after Vince expiring contact is definitively bullchit. There is/will always space for moves in the NBA. Especially after winning a ring, Player ratings would be higher and more tradeble than rest of the league. Look I have no intention to just come here and bash your society. Contrarily i really missed here (Not 09-10 board, its really weird this year). I missed DOM and his family, indeed. It was mostly enjoyable to debate their bi-polar arguments. There were some classy act along with his background. I have never taken it as a war that i never have a chance to win with my broken english. It was just too sad to see him google it and put Human Violation stuffs in a sportive environment. It was out of bound. (Btw i should give him special credit for his analogy: swallowed by a great whale) Just like your legendary Irish! Mod, said: Its too early to speak. League is still to young. there is long way to go.

quote: Originally posted by i HATE Rich DeVos: quote: Originally posted by echo4papa:What's up with Dwight getting heckled during FT's on our home court? i was just going to ask if i was hearing things. maybe theres one of those turkish tour groups coming to see spazzoglu and theyre heckling howard at the same time? you know what... Dwight is our most favorite player of our country. You will see in 2010 World Cup. Stop crap posts like that.

Hey millet. ?yi bayramlar herkeze. Turbey, burlardam?s?n hala?

quote: Originally posted by ThuglifeJ:He's callin Turk out big time on being a flopper lol ouch. But I agree Thug... You and Vince would better get a room.

"We wouldn't flop if they set (legal) screens," Raptors coach Triano said. "We told our guys watching (pre-game) tape, they move on every screen. And they (officials) don't call it if you don't hit it. You can move all you want, but if I don't make contact, it's not illegal. So we told them, if they move on the screen, hit it and fall and then they have to call it."

Ouch DOM and Your DOM Co. members... i really missed you and your one-sided posts m8. Hedo is wearing Red color atm and i known you are feeling more BULL chit then ever yourself. I would like to be your matador but its a pity i announced my retirement from here. Sorry dude. Calm down guyz. I have strong feelings. You have a great coach and he somehow will find a way to create a TEAM from this roster. Its too early to put solid judge atm. Fresh your memories and remember last year, its a very long run. For the record: " * Who will inbound the ball in late-game situations? Van Gundy told the group of about 75 coaches that one of the ways the Magic will miss Hedo Turkoglu most is as an inbounds passer in games

For "Addicted to Bash" Hedo for every opportunity and having "Fish Memory" members like Goshprey I honestly hope Vince shows his Half Man Half Amazing class moves when you need him most along with 82 mil roster just like Hedo did last year for 2nd round playoff exit team. Game 7 at Boston FGM-A 12/9 3PM-A 5/4 FTM-A 3/3 REB 5 AST 12 Total 25 Points http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9dT9ptEFHg And I honestly hope he reaches to Final with this great talented roster - personally i missed to watch Dwight's entertaining personality and Shard's coolness. Vince deserves to get at least one ring and it would be great to watch him at the Finals with his unique athleticism. If Vince somehow performs bad at here just like some of the members -i.e: new guy- predicted three months ago, that will not make its a valid point that Hedo is better than him, or vice versa. They are apple and orange. This is my last post in here. I know %98 of this boards full with Hedo haters, some of them are blind while some of them are trying seem to be rational but one thing is sure HEDO HAS GONE and you should get used to it, stop using his name here every opportunity at down and ups. If you watch below video, you will hear his voice telling you its the end of this story. Good Luck Magic

quote: Originally posted by Lewis4thewin: quote: Originally posted by The Seventh Seal:I saw his other threads... nevermind, make fun of him. yeah seriously. I know this forum is kinda cliquey but usually if people interject small decent posts at the beginning of their time here then they're usually accepted. When a guy's first posts are "Barnes sucks", Then it makes their opinions seem illegitimate. When a guy bashes other member's country by drawing cross sign on their old time leader picture in a sport forum, Then it makes his opinion seem elite and at the end of the day rewarded with being "Moderator"

quote: Originally posted by Kberto:ClubMed and Vellasco are in contact with their Turkish lawyers in order to take legal action against ESPN for running such a blatantly racist poll. This outrageous attack directed at an entire prideful nation cannot, and will not stand. Fight these pushers of hate and let the world know that this kind of tactic will not stand. The conspiracy to hold Hedo back ends now. DOMalan Co. and Skywise are in contact with their lawyers in order to take legal action against ESPN and their experts for not picking Magic nation even in 09-10 conf. final contenders with their blatantly disrespectful predictions. This outrageous attack directed at an entire prideful nation cannot, especially after spending over 80 mil for the roster, and will not stand. Fight these pushers of hate and let the world know that this kind of tactic will not stand. The conspiracy to hold Magic nation back ends now. I know it should be too painful for you all to know you can not take any respects from basketball community even if you gain multiple rings in a row.

quote: Originally posted by MagicCarter15: quote: Originally posted by Vellassco: quote: Originally posted by davcivic: quote: Originally posted by Da_Coach:Those Turkish chicks are hideous. I was kinda thinking the same thing...I don't know about hideous but definitely not gorgeous Hahhaha. Another classy one... ahh he is moderator also , great. Watch your gorgeous!!! Florida girls... **** and go back to your raptards boards. Dont call my name back here if then idiots. 976 views for this topic is showing how you guyz eat your brains with Hedo. Forget Hedo. Think like he never played here, OK? You spent 80 mil to be contender and still talking Hedo, sigh! Find different things to add color your boring boards. Look your ahead not your back, morons.

quote: Originally posted by davcivic: quote: Originally posted by Da_Coach:Those Turkish chicks are hideous. I was kinda thinking the same thing...I don't know about hideous but definitely not gorgeous Hahhaha. Another classy one... ahh he is moderator also , great. Watch your gorgeous!!! Florida girls... PS: A thiny detail btw; Look where those scene were taken... Looks familiar? Those are pure GORGCEUS Floridan girls hahaha

quote: Originally posted by MagicFan4Life912:Does anyone know if Vellasco or ClubMed made an appearance in this video? That guy playing the instrument looked mighty happy when Hedo was approaching him. I guess to make the video even more amusing, I'll pretend it was Vellasco.

quote: Originally posted by TURBEY:I am asking the mods to move this topic to the around the nba, hedo is not a magic player anymore... The Moderation of this boards has been so classy as long as other members. It shouldn't be surprise for you, TURBEY. What did you expect from them? Poor Florida Turkish Society. Its too hard to understand for me, why are you still supporting this classy!!! team dun know. Masochist? For Magic Fanns, I'm clapping all of you for being thankful to your last year core player. Another kind move by legendary Magic Fans. You should be proud yourself. Keep going guyz, keep going on...

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Hedo will give you the answer you looking for keep being classy!!! Dont call me back again. Here is my last sentence:

Vellassco says leaving is easy! It was fun to watch Hedo play in Orlando. Sincere Good Lucks to Magic. Bye.

Arkada?lar benden burada bu kadar. Bir r

Yes B+ is fair. But, his grade was near A at the playoffs (esp after late Philly series).

quote: Originally posted by echo4papa: quote: Originally posted by Vellassco: quote: Echo, in order to help your thread I didn't write the article, but I am curious as to your thoughts. Acc to me, Magic is making good moves with Lee-Anderson and Hedo-VC replacements plus solid back-up PF like Bass. Only negative concern with those moves: A bit more risky than other title contenders. They just made minor replacements like Ariza-Ron Ron, BigBaby-Rasheed, BigZ-Shaq cuz those were not their main cores. But why coaches are taking that much money, arent they? Ok SVG can work on it and make it done. I can understand Magic with a thought like " we are not taking risk, we are moving out of risk by not taking 5 year contract with hedo" Ok but, 2 year VC is worths 36-37 mil while 5 year Hedo worths 44 mil. Only 7 mil more for Hedo's extra 3 years. Im with Hedo's games are not standing on his athletizm. Anyways as i said before It's Organisation choice. From Hedo's point of view: no matter he will suckz or not, He will get 10-11 mil year.Lol. lets just skip it. From my point of view: I have never happy with a idea like 5 more years with Magic. I always dream him under Portland's jersey. Big disoppointment for me. Last second decissions have never worked on me, i guess its gonna be valid for Hedo too.

quote: Echo, in order to help your thread

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Echo, in order to help your thread; Here is the Team Grade Series I swear they must be master planners to have this posted and ready to go as a final farewell to Hedo! quote: For Orlando, losing Hedo Turkoglu and Courtney Lee for Vince Carter and Ryan Anderson is a net loss. Carter is still one of the best wings in the NBA, but his shelf life as a top player is probably shorter than Turkoglu's. Losing Turkoglu will hurt the Magic more than they are admitting at this point, though the financial ramifications clearly forced their hand to some degree. Follow the link above to find out his overall grade! With this forum, I'm sure this will be controversial.