Da_Coach

Yea, yea, Nelson for Mikey Moore, now that's a thought!

Look its very simple, Dwight needs to play smarter basketball and bring 100% effort every night for us to beat them. As of now he has been inconsistent to say the least. This was supposed to be his breakout year, but he has digressed in ft shooting, has not improved his post game, and hes committing poor fouls that have resulted in less minutes on the floor and as a result his numbers are down across the board. And I don't want to hear its because of the arrival of carter because that's bs. Bottom line is I want to see Dwight making better decisions out there and playing smarter defensively and stop committing silly fouls. He needs to keep his composure and not get frustrated with the way he is being played this year and subsequently how hes being refferied. It is what it is. Teams have implemented a flopper strategy against Dwight on the defensive end and take it directly at him on the offensive end because they are keen on Dwight's tendencies. Dwight still has quite a ways to mature when it comes to basketball iq and playing the game at a higher level mentally. And I want to see him give 100% effort every game. I don't want to hear its the regular season. Greatness starts by bringing it each and every game and making that your standard. Then in the playoffs he can take it to a another level. Only then will we be a championship team. It starts and ends with Dwight.

quote: Originally posted by bringithomerashard:This is miserable lol the guy has Dwight improving every year other than FT% which what can you do about that? he has good form he just can't knock them down there is absolutely no reason to fire ewing, and if your upset his numbers are down, his minute are down and so are his shot attempts, vince carter is shootin an awful lot so Dwight's minutes and numbers are down because he can't stay out of foul trouble.

Not a bad thought, and bass would get more pt, but our starting unit would be worse defensively. Pietrus D > RA D No shut down defensive player in the starting 5 with that line up.

quote: Originally posted by BillFan:What a bunch of ****ing fair weathered fans on here. You guys suck! Maybe instead of complaining about Vince you all could start a bring back Hedo thread.. But wait..let me guess.. You complained about him too... amirite? tards... You really don't get it do you?

At full strength with a rhythm we are arguably the deepest team ever assembled, but these unfortunate bumps in the road via injuries to carter, anderson and the suspension of Shard is eating into our opportunity to set ourselves up for the best possible position to win a championship. This is by no means an over reaction, we will still get it together and win probably 60 plus games, but at this point I feel we are a legitimate contender and am holding this team to a championship standard. There are 3 legitimate contenders Orlando, LA and Boston (San Antonio I believe Duncan and Ginobili are not the same players, and their defense is not what it once was to make a legit run) that are all very evenly matched at full strength, so I believe home court will be the deciding factor. If that is the case I believe 15 games is our permissible loss limit in order to secure home court. We have already dropped 2 of those 15 early on to teams that we should have beat. OKC not so much as we were severely shorthanded missing 3 of our 5 starters, as they are a young, talented, athletic team playing at home, but we definitely should have beaten Detroit if it wasn't for the Javie show. In the beginning of the year I thought to myself that the only thing that can stop us was injuries and I know injuries are a part of the game and ours are rather minor ones, but I can't help looking at the big picture and how important overall home court will be. Two cheap losses early on really sucks especially considering we might rack up a couple more, as it may take some time to integrate everyone back together, tweak our lineup and find our rhythm when everyone is finally back. I know inevitably some will think it's not that big of a deal, but winning a championship is extremely tough especially for a small market team and we need every possible thing to our advantage in order to accomplish that goal. I'm telling you guys home court will be crucial and it sucks our luck has soured with these injuries. I hope that this will be it for the year and we get back on track, gain our rhythm and still get the top seed on our way to a ring. Got to improve that D as well.

At full strength with a rhythm we are arguably the deepest team ever assembled, but these unfortunate bumps in the road via injuries to carter, anderson and the suspension of Shard is eating into our opportunity to set ourselves up for the best possible position to win a championship. This is by no means an over reaction, we will still get it together and win probably 60 plus games, but at this point I feel we are a legitimate contender and am holding this team to a championship standard. There are 3 legitimate contenders Orlando, LA and Boston (San Antonio I believe Duncan and Ginobili are not the same players, and their defense is not what it once was to make a legit run) that are all very evenly matched at full strength, so I believe home court will be the deciding factor. If that is the case I believe 15 games is our permissible loss limit in order to secure home court. We have already dropped 2 of those 15 early on to teams that we should have beat. OKC not so much as we were severely shorthanded missing 3 of our 5 starters, as they are a young, talented, athletic team playing at home, but we definitely should have beaten Detroit if it wasn't for the Javie show. In the beginning of the year I thought to myself that the only thing that can stop us was injuries and I know injuries are a part of the game and ours are rather minor ones, but I can't help looking at the big picture and how important overall home court will be. Two cheap losses early on really sucks especially considering we might rack up a couple more, as it may take some time to integrate everyone back together, tweak our lineup and find our rhythm when everyone is finally back. I know inevitably some will think it's not that big of a deal, but winning a championship is extremely tough especially for a small market team and we need every possible thing to our advantage in order to accomplish that goal. I'm telling you guys home court will be crucial and it sucks our luck has soured with these injuries. I hope that this will be it for the year and we get back on track, gain our rhythm and still get the top seed on our way to a ring. Got to improve that D as well.

quote: Originally posted by Magic Fan 4 Life:I mean when is this guy gonna be playing again?? He steps on someones foot and gets hurt for like 2 weeks worthless

quote: Originally posted by gporter:I know there has already been ten+ threads since we lost, but I can't say I didn't see this kind of drawn out post coming. It was a good read, and made me think... but at the end of the day, I like to have a little faith in the sport that I love. Ryan Anderson did miss ten threes after all. It's not like we couldn't have won this game. Vince was clearly throwing the offense out of sync, as well. He isn't 100%, not sure he should have played. Of course we played like crap, abysmal in fact, but I do believe the flow of the game was ruined early on by the way the game was called. If you recall we did make a nice comeback early on and became more complacent with the jumper because of how one directional the calls were. We came out flat like many good teams do when they play inferior opponents and when we started to hit some shots that's when all the horrible calls started piling in quite suspiciously. The bottom line is the officials have immense control of the flow of the game and can completely ruin a teams rhythm when there is no flow to a game and calls become so one sided.

Alright now that I got your attention, read Mr. Danaghy's excerpts first (if you haven't already come accross them) then the rest will be substantiated. http://deadspin.com/5392067/ex...snt-want-you-to-read Look I know there will be people bashing this thread, I'm prepared for that, just know that they are naive, and don't know how the world of business works or just choose to subscribe to wishful thinking so that they can preserve a certain image of "basketbal" in their minds. And yes the NBA is a business first and foremost. I won't go into detail of how all the intricacies of the operation fit together or how exactly everyone involved contributes or makes out, I wouldn't even begin to pretend like I know any of those details. I'm just using common sense, human nature and tendencies, greed, interest alignment, and a basic understanding of the exploitation of large scale business. You may think what you want of Donaghy, but he worked on the inside and at this point has nothing to lose, so why not spill the truth about what sorts of things transpire behind the scenes? None of the things you read in these excerpts should come as a shock to any of us. They're all things we have all posited at various junctures throughout NBA history. The Sacramento/LA series in 02 or the infamous Suns/spurs series for example, only now they've been confirmed from the lions mouth. Its simple really, referees have the most power over deciding the outcome of a game and can abuse this power for personal gain (Donaghy, and many others not officially caught) at the expense of organizations, players, coaches, fans and anyone else involved. As the excerpts show, this is done in a variety of unique and innovative ways to achieve the desired end. For example, if you want to insure a more competitive game between a heavily favored team and a significant underdog, put the favorite team's superstar on the bench with early foul trouble "I was thinking, How is Denver going to win on the road in San Antonio? At the time, the Spurs were arguably the best team in the league. Bavetta answered my question before it was asked." "Duncan will be on the bench with three fouls within the first five minutes of the game," he calmly stated." Ring a bell anyone? Not only that, but constant stoppages and fouls clearly mess the flow of a game up severely. This is especially true for a high octane offense like the magic's that feeds off rhythm and momentum. This benefits an opportunistic offense like Detroits that is severely challenged at best with the personnel on the court tonight and relies on opportunistic plays and isolation. Orlando vs. Detroit with Orlando as the heavy favorites against a significantly undermanned Detroit team that is in the rebuilding stage anyways, was the perfect setup game to manipulate, especially with the history of Detroit having the Magic's number. The officiating was textbook to that end from all the 50-50 calls going their way, to the foul trouble of Dwight who only played 16 minutes! Dwight would get whistled every 3 minutes and eventually fouled out along with Gortat. Also the free throw discrepancy of 38-16 in favor of Detroit. I know they went to the hole a lot more and the magic settled for too many 3's, but the offense was completely thrown out of wack with no one in the paint to establish any post game, due to the foul trouble. Sure this may all be coincidence, but we've seen it all before, I mean one of their own was already caught for this very thing. The mismatch was perfect, the history of the teams was too good to pass up and the method of controlling the flow of the game to facilitate the desired outcome was textbook. Decide for yourselves. This has all happened before, Donaghy was the shmuck that got caught, you would think this sort of thing would completely die down, but all the signs that were evident back then still prevail now, and they won't get my benefit of the doubt after the NBA was exposed for this very thing. It's a shame that the sport we love has to be muddied up with the cold realities of human greed and self interest, and our beloved team has to be the bystander caught in the crosshairs. Its one loss and is not at all anything to worry about in the greater scheme of things and our goal of a title, its just how that loss came about that hurts and to Detroit of all teams. I just worry that even though we are arguably the deepest team ever assembled the politics of the business may ultimately get in the way of a fruitful run this year.

Alright now that I got your attention, read Mr. Danaghy's excerpts first (if you haven't already come accross them) then the rest will be substantiated. http://deadspin.com/5392067/ex...snt-want-you-to-read Look I know there will be people bashing this thread, I'm prepared for that, just know that they are naive, and don't know how the world of business works or just choose to subscribe to wishful thinking so that they can preserve a certain image of "basketbal" in their minds. And yes the NBA is a business first and foremost. I won't go into detail of how all the intricacies of the operation fit together or how exactly everyone involved contributes or makes out, I wouldn't even begin to pretend like I know any of those details. I'm just using common sense, human nature and tendencies, greed, interest alignment, and a basic understanding of the exploitation of large scale business. You may think what you want of Donaghy, but he worked on the inside and at this point has nothing to lose, so why not spill the truth about what sorts of things transpire behind the scenes? None of the things you read in these excerpts should come as a shock to any of us. They're all things we have all posited at various junctures throughout NBA history. The Sacramento/LA series in 02 or the infamous Suns/spurs series for example, only now they've been confirmed from the lions mouth. Its simple really, referees have the most power over deciding the outcome of a game and can abuse this power for personal gain (Donaghy, and many others not officially caught) at the expense of organizations, players, coaches, fans and anyone else involved. As the excerpts show, this is done in a variety of unique and innovative ways to achieve the desired end. For example, if you want to insure a more competitive game between a heavily favored team and a significant underdog, put the favorite team's superstar on the bench with early foul trouble "I was thinking, How is Denver going to win on the road in San Antonio? At the time, the Spurs were arguably the best team in the league. Bavetta answered my question before it was asked." "Duncan will be on the bench with three fouls within the first five minutes of the game," he calmly stated." Ring a bell anyone? Not only that, but constant stoppages and fouls clearly mess the flow of a game up severely. This is especially true for a high octane offense like the magic's that feeds off rhythm and momentum. This benefits an opportunistic offense like Detroits that is severely challenged at best with the personnel on the court tonight and relies on opportunistic plays and isolation. Orlando vs. Detroit with Orlando as the heavy favorites against a significantly undermanned Detroit team that is in the rebuilding stage anyways, was the perfect setup game to manipulate, especially with the history of Detroit having the Magic's number. The officiating was textbook to that end from all the 50-50 calls going their way, to the foul trouble of Dwight who only played 16 minutes! Dwight would get whistled every 3 minutes and eventually fouled out along with Gortat. Also the free throw discrepancy of 38-16 in favor of Detroit. I know they went to the hole a lot more and the magic settled for too many 3's, but the offense was completely thrown out of wack with no one in the paint to establish any post game, due to the foul trouble. Sure this may all be coincidence, but we've seen it all before, I mean one of their own was already caught for this very thing. The mismatch was perfect, the history of the teams was too good to pass up and the method of controlling the flow of the game to facilitate the desired outcome was textbook. Decide for yourselves. This has all happened before, Donaghy was the shmuck that got caught, you would think this sort of thing would completely die down, but all the signs that were evident back then still prevail now, and they won't get my benefit of the doubt after the NBA was exposed for this very thing. It's a shame that the sport we love has to be muddied up with the cold realities of human greed and self interest, and our beloved team has to be the bystander caught in the crosshairs. Its one loss and is not at all anything to worry about in the greater scheme of things and our goal of a title, its just how that loss came about that hurts and to Detroit of all teams. I just worry that even though we are arguably the deepest team ever assembled the politics of the business may ultimately get in the way of a fruitful run this year.

You guys are all morons

quote: Originally posted by rtillaree: quote: shaq wouldnt last 5 minutes against howard that's just ridiculous... Ya Dwight is yet to put up numbers on Shaq, maybe this year, improved Dwight: > :Geezed out Shaq

I bet if he was like, "the magic, naw they won't win" all these glistening comments about saint hood would be more absent than Janet Napolitano at a kegger, spread eagle with a crowd of drunk teenagers screaming "let me take the first dive!!! Naw man, me first!!! mmmmmm I can't wait to get me a taste!!"

Just speaking the truth, ur link was the spammiest of them all, with these ridiculous uncancelable pop ups.