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  1. Isaac's potential is sky high. I am 100% confident when I say this, I think he can become a 25 ppg guy. I know he's got a long way to go, but his 3 will improve and he's shown stretches last year of him being ultra aggressive and spinning/driving hard to the hoop to finish. If he can put it all together, I'm stoked for his potential 


  2. 1 minute ago, ?4thewin said:

    When you find yourself getting down on the magic just be glad we're not the Knicks. We're getting upset about long term mediocrity and they get this:

     

    Always important to keep things in perspective. We aren't the Knicks, the Suns, or the Hornets or the Wizards


  3. 43 minutes ago, Originalticketholder said:

    Were you watching the Magic last year?   We became a better team when Isaac came alive and Briscoe started playing more, Birch to a much lesser degree.  Your points were the exact same made about Isaac the year before.  Year 1 and Year 2 can be like night and day but only if you play.  Isaac went to 25 minutes per game in year 2 not because he proved it.  He grew into that position as the year progressed when given the opportunity.  Don't count on Mo's camp being understanding in playing second fiddle to Vuc for 4 years.  Way too much money at stake in not starting.  Magic better have this under cotnrol.  Hopefully the "milk toast" Magic reporters will have the intestinal fortitude to challenge the FO on this apparent change in philosophy by asking about Bamba's status.

    Disagree. Isaac was much more promising in his rookie season than Mo was. He was more active, more engaged, and actually made a difference in our defense when he was there. Bamba didn't.

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  4. 2 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

    We invested in vucevic on a contract that exceeds Bamba's. It doesn't make sense to develop a backup who can only play 1 position. It's poor value. 

    Not necessarily. We haven't seen the contract yet, if it has a team option after the 3rd year then it wouldn't exceed Mo's rookie deal. Maybe the extra 10 mil means that we threw in a team option or something


  5. 3 minutes ago, Originalticketholder said:

    Here is the bigger issue.  Mo had his ups and downs as all rookies do.  But he showed flashes of brilliance with shooting, driving to the hoop, blocked shots that merits more playing time.   But do you think that even if he plays even, or God forbid, outplays Vuc (won't take much--see the Toronto series) that he will be given the starting position?  All this a year removed when everyone said he was drafted to replace Vuc.  That was the perception and perception is reality.  Now this!  All may be fine in MagicLand but this could easily become a PR nightmare.  How would you feel if you were Mo and his folks.  It has taken far less for agents and players to start demanding to be moved disrupting a lockerroom.  Gifted PT is far differenct from being given a chance.  Hope the Magic have this under control.  We are far too good at giving up on players who go on to star elsewhere.  And this from an FO that has drafted and stressed athleticism and length and defensive versatility foremost.  Just totally out of character from what they have said and if all players do not support it this can destroy a team.

    Were we watching the same Mo? He had some ups, sure, but he was statistically one of the worst players in the entire league last year. We instantly became a better team when we replaced him with Birch in the rotation after he got hurt. He blocked shots, but most of these blocked shots were just due to his sheer length and he was able to get easy blocks. He had pretty bad defensive instincts. He camped out at the 3 point line way too much. He didn't exactly show the best hustle out there either...

     

    Now I'm not saying that he can't become a great player (I think he will be great in a few years) but he is muuuuch further from being starting caliber than we all realize. He physically really isn't ready to handle anything more than 20 minutes a game. He can stay in a low pressure role for the time being, all while continuing to work hard and prove that he deserves more time. Putting him in a competitive environment for minutes will be better for his development.

     

    I also imagine (or, at least hope) that WeltHam talked with Mo about what's going on moving forward, and that Mo understands/is eager to move forward. If they made this move without communicating with Mo's camp, then I'd be a little concerned. But I really don't think that this signing means the end for Mo here in Orlando.

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  6. Just now, ?4thewin said:

    How will we know if he's the center of the future if he's never getting more than 16mpg

    Can he at least show us he's capable of playing more than 16 minutes first? He couldn't handle that load last year. Hopefully that changes, but he's going to get the playing time he earns. He isn't going to be gifted PT just for being a #6 pick. If Mo really feels that he deserves more, he'll show it in Summer League. He'll show it in practice. He'll show it in the games. 

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  7. 6 minutes ago, fan for too long 2 said:

    Mo has GOT to be traded now doesn’t he?  He and his agent should be demanding it. 

    Mo isn't getting traded. You can have him be the center of the future while giving him the backup role at the same time. He wasn't going to start for us anyways, and our FO is still on high on him, per every credible source. Having Vooch hold down the fort for Mo while he develops isn't the end of the world...

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  8. Just now, The Boss said:

    I will cheer any move that involves shedding Fournier.

    Get rid of Fournier

    Don't re-sign Vuc

    Keep Ross

    Find a competent starting 2 that fits our mold

    Find a competent starting 5 that fits our mold til Bamba is ready

     

    A recipe to make The Boss very happy.

    I don't see why Magic fans are so hell bent on trading Fournier


  9. 6 hours ago, ?4thewin said:

    So 4 and Hill for 11 and Covington seems possible

    Which would make new Orleans a super defense

    This would give NOLA a dangerous core. Gentry is a fantastic offensive coach but his defenses have always faltered. Now that they have the personnel to build an elite D, sheesh...


  10. 14 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

    Bonga isn't worth rostering. I don't think he's an NBA player. 

    Hes entering his sophomore year and he's only 19 years old. He has plenty of room to grow, but the potential is there. I think he's worth putting in Lakeland if the asking price is a second round pick. I watched some of his highlights, he's a much improved shooter (based on his g league games) from where he was before and he's a pretty decent passer. He needs to add weight and improve his footwork, but he can become a versatile defender based on his wingspan.


  11. 44 minutes ago, Soul Bro said:

    Who is the comp for Herro? I know his length and lack of switchy defense doesn't match our model yet I'm curious. Thanks

    Ive seen a lot of Nik Stauskas comparisons.

     

    I wasn't a huge fan of Herro at first, but he's starting to warm up to me. I really like his offensive game, and he's been showing some potential as a ball handler as well. He doesn't have a long wingspan and won't be an elite defender, but I think he could be a guy who can contribute from day 1.

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