Air00Gordon

Completely agree. Vuc has given everything for this team and it’s disappointing to see day in and day out the roster we put around him. We have players that don’t belong in the NBA and possibly competing for a bench role on a G League team. Trade everyone except Vuc, Kelle, JI, Chuma and Cole. If Vuc stays he deserves a monument for putting up with this crap. If not, I wouldn’t be mad if he wanted to leave. And please put a coach next to Clifford who knows something of offense.

I hate to be a downer but this play is just inexcusable.

Please just blow up this team already. The season is already lost.

Why can’t we have offensive players, what’s the point of drafting, signing or trading for defensive players when we can’t even stop a 99 yr old Betty White. And even with defensive players we’re constantly out hustled, out played and out coached.

100% agree!

Can we just blow it up already and go young. This series is evidence enough this group is maximized and WeHam does not need another year of evaluation. Vuc over performed this year, Fournier is trash, DJ is a back up, our bench sucks, we need to draft offense. We’ve drafted defense and yet we can’t stop the raptors.

Yeah we responded with a win against the wizards and it worked. Our bench scored 50 points in that game.

Yeah it seems he hesitates and shoots scared.

I’ve been asking myself that. I remember in one game him specifically saying we lost the game because our bench didn’t play. And I wonder why he stopped. I think team morale has reached a low point that he doesn’t want to break the thin ice out team is on confidence wise. And that to me is a bad sign. Change needs to happen. Just don’t fire Cliff!

You have a good point. That happens consistently in our games and players just start jacking up horrible shots and stall ball movement

I agree, it’s not Cliff. He’s actually a very good decent coach. We just flat out don’t have talent.

Lmao he’s already rehearsing his answers

It’s the reason why is stopped watching his press conference, he says it every single time. Did your team have a bad game? “ I have to watch the tape”. Has Gordon regressed? “ I have to watch the tape “. Does your team lack shooting? “ Idk I have to watch the tape “

What he always says “we have talent, these guys wanna win, we just weren’t organized....etc I gotta look at the tape”

I’m ready to blow to whole team up, no one is safe. I hope cliff doesn’t pull a skiles and quits

We suck...the flint tropics we’re a better team than this. Damn I think even the miracle were better than this crap we’re putting out there every night. WeHam have no idea how to assemble a team that fits. Assessment my arse.

Good shot by Fournier, glad he included himself in the bad play of late and lack of killer mentality.

Idk which one is the quickest but I remember Dwight having 1st quarter double-doubles back in the day in 12 min of play. Jokic had the quickest triple double in 14:33 min.

True. I feel like whoever has built our teams the past couple years, just sat in his chair on draft night and randomly selected players without thinking about fit, chemistry, needs, etc...they were probably just playing angry birds and when our selection came up just said to pick whoever all the draft websites said was good. Same applies to free agency.

I agree. I think that because Vuc is our best offensive player, it suckers every coach to have to play our offense through him considering we have no one else. Problem with that is that we run a prehistoric offense in a uptempo modern era. I would rather see us be blown out every game watching our you guys develop and get better, that to watch us still get blown out running with the same players that have been here since the rebuild and have no future here.

Long time magic fan since ‘91, been reading this forum along with realgm for years. Finally decided to post after this disappointing loss. At some point the FO has to realize that the product that they keep trying to build, along with our last FO does not and will not work in an era where scoring is valued more over defense, and where the idea that great 1 on 1 defenders will give you a great defensive team. We have time and time again drafted players with great defensive attributes and crossing our fingers that they will learn how to shoot and still we manage to have year after year bad defensive teams after supposedly drafting great defensive players. While I like Bamba as a player, he shows no effort and suffers from Vucevic syndrome (letting small guards score on him without contesting or even acting like he’s gonna contest. Isaac has great potential but has some type of phobia where he can’t shoot the call even if he’s wide open. While I’m a big Gordon fan, guy still thinks he’s playing street ball in California or in the uncle drew movie and still doesn’t realize that his strengths do not include trying to do dribble a lot and fade away for a contested jumper off one foot. Vucevic is trash and I baffled how the FO doesn’t trade him already, a 50yr old Darrel Armstrong plays better than DJ and Fournier is basically Hezonja now. We are officially the new kings only we don’t know how to draft going talent that mesh well together. I really believe even the Flint Tropics would blow us out. This team has been pathetic to watch the last 7 yrs and get I’m still a fan and a masochist for continuing to pay to watch a failed product year after year.