1Penny
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Picking 6 isn't as horrible as it feels. Sights were set on 5 or better. Damn.
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Its not Fox = EP, it's some people believe that poor shooting puts a ceiling on a guard's career in this NBA. If Payton is automatically disqualified, should fox be too? (because projecting him forward we need to assume he's forever going to be a poor shooter).
Also, it's not Fox vs EP, it's Fox vs Smith vs EP and Monk/Tatum/Isaac
True. Tatum is a different story for me. I'd take Tatum over Fox and not much time would run off the clock in doing so. I would cringe while doing it because Duke players and the NBA is a horrible mix, so says history. But Tatum has a nice game.
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You like Fox over Smith?
I do. Not by much but Smith as a lead guard makes lazy decisions with the ball, which is bad on the collegiate level and a nightmare in the league. I also always question a prospect with that much ability and upside who's team was so mediocre in college (admittedly not always indicative of his future in the league...see James Harden). I also don't think I'd be mad if they took Smith either. I just think Fox has a better impact on his team, even though his numbers aren't as elite as Smiths.
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I've been on the Fox train for a long time. The comparison to EP needs to stop. EP's jumper was broken from birth. He doesn't push tempo anywhere near the same league as Fox. Athletically..no comparison. I am shocked Fox shot so poorly from deep because his mechanics couldn't be much better than they are. He may never be as good as Wall (his best comparison in terms of style of play). But as a prospect, he's much closer to Wall than EP. If we pick higher, I'd take a different route. But at 5, I'm not going to let EP prevent me from taking the highest ceiling prospect at 5. And assuming Fultz, Jackson, Ball and Tatum are gone, it's a no brainer if Orlando is on the clock.
Must admit that I thought very little of EP when we took him. Wanted Lavine.
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I'd like to give Luke Kennard a look if he's on the board with our late first pick.
His advanced stats are seriously off the charts this season. Plus I just love lefties that can stroke it. Not an NBA starter but he could carve a nice role off the bench in the NBA.
Would love to land Kennard to this roster!
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My opinion..De'Aaron Fox is being severely underrated on this forum. He'll be even better in the league with more floor spacing. I don't care where Orlando picks, if he's the guy, it'll be a win for Orlando.
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Yup. Him being this good at 37 makes no sense
Hadn't really thought about him being available. But he would make so much sense for this roster. And I'm in the very small minority who still would like to see Barnes here. He's not a superstar but I think he'd fit well on this team. That cat has taken and made some big shots in a championship run. Can't find that every day on the market.
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Heres all the second rounders I'd like at either pick.
diamond stone
ulis
thon
Isaiah whitehead
onuaku
Cornelie
cordinier
McCaw
Siakam
Brogdon
bentil
Hammons
LeVert
Selden
Payton
Cat Barber
Key felder
among those guys Felder, LeVert, Brogdon, and Bentil are my favorites
Wouldn't mind Hammons, Felder or Payton!
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Realistic wishlist as of now
1) Wade Baldwin
2) Deyonta Davis
3) Henry Ellenson
4) Malik Beasley
5) Skal
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It isn't giving up on Payton just because we bring in another PG. If he is as good as you guys say he is (which, he isn't), he can still develop in a bench role. If he improves his shot drastically (which he won't), he can still do so in a bench role.
Just because I don't think someone is good, doesn't mean I'm a basher. It's because I don't think they're very good. Payton has career backup written all over him. Which isn't the worse thing in the world, I think he'll be a solid backup. But you can't be that atrocious on the offensive end and be successful in today's NBA.
I'd rather start CJ Watson.
Can't remember where I posted it but, I pretty much was spot on with this. I think Payton would probably be the best backup PG in the league, which is not a bad thing at all. The roster has to compliment itself, top to bottom. Of the youngsters, EP is by far the most expendable. Dipo is gonna get maxed. AG has obvious untapped potential, as in he's Hella athletic and is an upper echelon defender already. Mario is the most deadly shot on a roster starved for floor spreading, so his value is head and shoulders above EP. Kid is easily the weak link of the future starters on this team when you look at it. The leap he'd have to make to become an upper echelon point is something I'm not holding my breath for. But I'm all for him proving me wrong.
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his defense comes and goes just as much as his offense. some games he cant get around a pick and roll and guys burn him.
I've never been sold on him. Unfortunately, Rob seems to see a potential jump shot (where?), a floor general (nah), and a guy that can take a franchise to the promised land (???). How? Position needs overhauling IMHO.
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I would feel more comfortable exploring his growth as a backup. I'm somewhat tired of exploring everyone's growth. I'd rather be proactive for once and upgrade the position before we waste half a season. Nothing wrong with bringing in a new Starter while Payton does (or doesn't) develop off the bench.
Dude is almost like an extra defender on the court, at times (on our offensive end). 0 threat of a jump shot and really struggles to blow by anyone. Has to have a pick in order to get into the lane more often than not. He's an upper end backup PG though. I'm Kool with that.
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this might be the worst draft from 5 to 20 that I can remember.
I think you can argue 20-30 last year is better than 5 to 20 this year.
Delon Wright= Kris Dunn
RJ Hunter= Murray
Looney=Davis
Nance=Skal
tyus jones = Demetrius Jackson
Portis=Ellenson
Justin Anderson= Jaylen Brown
Completely agree. This draft is the definition of mediocre past 4, if you ask me.
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Have to wonder how his weird shot will work at the next level, but I really like him
I'm gonna guess he'll look like Klay Thompson, in comparison to Elfrid, lol.
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Big Baldwin fan too. I made a post about him a couple months ago, kid can ball and he plays with emotion.
Sneaky athleticism and he really defends well. Probably as much or more upside as anyone else at 11, if he's available. Such a crap shoot after the top 4 players in this draft.
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I think this Wade Baldwin kid is gonna be the steal of this draft. Maybe not gonna be the best player from the draft. But I think he's top 5..although he doesn't go that high.
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Welcome to the forum. That series was the highlight of my 26 years of being a Magic fan.
Thanks.
That series was fun for me. But my "Magic Moment" was the Shaq and Penny days.
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If we can get Evan Turner at 11 I'm completely fine with that. I don't know what your expectations are if you think getting a versatile role player at 11 is a bad thing.
Totally agree here. Evan Turner type at 11 would do wonders for this team.
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Looking back at the 2009 season, do you guys realize how crazy it is that we beat the Cavs?
Lebron was having the best season of his career and arguably the greatest post season in NBA history. The Cavs regular season was one of the 15 best regular seasons in NBA history.
Lebron was averaging 35/9/7 in the playoffs with a 37.4(!!!!!) PER a BPM of 18.2. Those numbers are magnitudes above even Jordan.
He averaged 39/8/8 against us
and we still won. Unbelievable.
1st post on this board, so what up fellas?
I remember when the TNT guys went around the table making their predictions once that series was set. They hot to Barkley after everyone else picked the Cavs and he just sat there and took a deep breath. Kenny Smith looks at him and says, "I know you're not thinking about picking Orlando". Charles confirmed my wild belief that Orlando had a much better team than Cleveland and that LBJ, as great as he was wouldn't be enough to cover for them.
Even though that series went 6, we were head and shoulders better than them. Would've only gone 5 had LBJ not rattled in that game winner (he even shocked himself by making that shot..he thought it was over).
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At least I hope so.
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After a long process of getting approved, I'm finally in.
Will AG Become Elite?
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Don't see him ever cracking the Top 10 in the league list. But I could see him get near the Top 20 or so at his ceiling.