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Okay, I'm not a fan of Vaughn and think he is completely in over his head, but to make the above statement is taking it a little far.

Magicman and magicblue your names are to similar for an argument, makes it difficult for people to follow a long :beatcomp:/> How is marble still in the starting lineup? Lol

I agree. If we can get good return for Harris, I'm all for it. I just don't want him walking in the off season.

We don't need to turn on each other, that's what Vaughn wants. No need to call out basketball IQ's and what not. Our team sucks, and we all think we know what's wrong with it and how to fix it. ELE

I go back and forth with Harris everyday. Right now, I'd rather give Nicholson a max.

Is it unrealistic to expect them to do better than that? Lol. If it is, than this franchise and it's fan base have officially reached new lows.

Spot on. He's an assistant coach. That's it. Guy has no control over this team. It's not all on him like I said earlier but it's time for him to go.

Magic have now given up at least 30 points in 7 of their last 8 quarters :panicworker: :panicworker: :panicworker:

Just got out of the movies (decided to see American sniper instead of watching the tragic) and I laughed out loud when I saw the score. We are just no good. 3rd year of the rebuild and we are in no way shape or form a better team than we were a year ago. It's disturbing. I think Vaughn has to get canned but this is in no way all his fault. Rob has put a team out there that outside of Payton Dipo and Vuch, there really isn't much. Harris is just alright and Gordon is too young. Frye was the worst free agent signing since Duhon. This team is garbage but I will continue to watch and go down with the ship.

I think with this Harris benching, the writing is on the wall for him. I know he's coming back from injury, but if your healthy enough to player in the second quarter, your healthy enough to do so in the first. There's absolutely no way you bench your "star" (basing that term off of Harris being the highest paid player on the team next year) just to shake things up. You don't bench the guy your considering giving close to max money too. Maybe he will start next game, idk. But as it stands now, it looks obvious to me what way we are leaning with Harris. I'm always hard on Harris but at the end of the day unless we can get great return for him, I think letting him walk is a big mistake. He's still young, averages 18 and 7, has improved his shooting numbers across the board, plays with emotion, and can hit a big shot. If he had a real coach who knows how good he could be.

There is not one person on this forum that will argue with this. There can't be.

I'm actually really excited for this dunk contest personally and not just cause victor is in it (that helps though). They're going back to the traditional format not some garbage east vs west crap. I think all contestants are really solid as well. We all know victor can do his thing, but Lavine is an absolute freak and Plumlee already gave orlando fans a dunk contest earlier in the year (I got to see it in person yayyy) and the Greek freak is just that. Should be good and I hope victor can bring it home but I think Lavine is the clear favorite.

Ehhhhhh idk. I wouldn't be mad but can't say I would be thrilled.

Both will continue to get better. Those other guys have been in the league longer. Payton will be a different player next year.

Damn Russell had a near perfect game tonight . 33 points, 7 boards, 6 assists and no turnovers. And this gem of a pass. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/d-angelo-russell-dazzles-with-another-brilliant-bounce-pass-020712682.html Since I like him so much, LA will draft him and I'll have to hate everything he stands for the rest of his career.

It's amazing what a great coach can do.

This wins :gold_cup:

I've actually been wondering/thinking the same thing. Has there been a falling out with those 2? I find that hard to believe cause Dedmon seems to do nothing but go 110% at all times. It makes zero since to me why he can't get a few minutes a night. But than again, most of what Vaughn does makes no sense to me.

We have a few decent individual defenders but the concept of playing defense as a unit completely escapes this team as a whole.

It all correlates one way or another.

I can sum this game up in 2 words: Defense Sucked We just had no desire to hustle back and play D. Pathetic.

All in for Thibs. We need the bulls to have an early playoff exit. Dream big.

I'm really not surprised by Payton to this point. His game translated really well from college and I fully expected him to do what he's doing. He's a stud and I said when we drafted him he will be the best PG from the draft. With the system were finally implementing, his numbers will only go up. His shot is still a ways off but that's completely fine. My favorite thing about Payton is he has grit. He will never get pushed around or take crap from anyone. I see a few heated skirmishes in Payton's future and I cannot wait. That was a rant.

We would be better than Lob City. But still terrible at shooting. Outside of his killer dunk reels his PER is actually terrible though.

We're the Magic. We will never get calls like the Thunder. That's just the way it is. Was the officiating bad? Sure. Is that why we got down 33 in the first 16 minutes of the game? No.