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I agree totally. Bargnani is his ceiling and that's wishful. Im sorry but he has slow feet, seven footer foot speed, nothing special. He is not an elite athlete, not even close.

I like Skiles, his record shows every team he goes to improves, till ownership trades good players for bad. Come back in 3 years and tell me how mediocre we are. Hoping Skiles intensity is infectious with this young team.

I agree to some extent, but that is now. He has potential, and does not shy away from the moment.

If anybody wanted Milsap, they need to watch the series with Cleveland. He has choked and shied away from taking the big shots. I used to want him and thought he was a lot tougher player. Those wants and thoughts are gone. I would still like to pry Mike Scott from them somehow. He has impressed me. He is willing to mix it up. He may not be there yet, but he is an up and comer. Add Bazemore to that. and Tristan Thompson has been possessed by Dennis Rodman.

If we cant get anything for our so called castoffs, then cut bait. Go get some d league guys. Frye, Hark and Nich. are not leading us anywhere, or following for that matter.

The more I watch Mario, the more I am impressed. His moves are natural as is his stroke. Very athletic, I really don't care if he is cocky, in fact he should be some to become a star. I really don't want Porzingas, He reminds me of Nicholson. Very SLOW feet, and built like a twig. In fact, I would take Andrew over him.

He also had a large hand in that group falling apart, in the finals and after that.

Ridnour Green, Oquinn and trade Frye, Hark and maybe Andrew For Shooters with some athletic ability and some beef down low. lol

WCS would run circles around Orton. And he doesn't look like a deer in the headlights. That is what I always thought when I saw Orton on the court. Anyway Stein is the most athletic big by far in the draft and that is not a bad thing. Guy runs like a deer and can block shots with his elbows. If he could develop any offense at all, He could make Vooch expendable. That ought to stir the pot.

All this is conjecture to this point. You guys are assuming an awful lot. I here Johnny Davis or Chris Jent are available.

Number 2 followed by 4 followed by 5, maybe tanking is not the answer. Now I hope Hennigan actually goes after some Good free agents, because this plan is not working.

The Knicks have sucked for how long. The NBA doesn't need them to be anything good. The Lakers on the otherhand. Well u know. And finally the Wolves got the #1 They had to throw them the number one just so it looked better that the lakers got #2. Its not fixed look the lakers didn't get the first pick. Yeah right, "rolls eyes"

Ok, fine ignore how a player is trending, and just make blanket statements. that's helpful. thanks

While I agree that Oladipo should handle the ball on occasion, Elf should have the ball more, much more. And as far as the stats your throwing out. They include the whole season. Payton got much better as the season progressed, he was after all a rookie. I just don't see Oladipo's ball handling, court vision and smart plays with the ball getting better as his two years have progressed. His offense has improved ie: his shot and finishing at the rim. Not a whole lot else.

Of that four I would take McDaniel and I would add Aminu, really like his game.

T12 is only 22 years old. Improvement should be a given. I get frustrated with his play at times, but you have to look at who is on the court with him. Also an experienced coach and staff could really do wonders with him. I don't think we should be so quick to let him go. Compared to Gordon's game, Harris is a polished brilliant diamond and Gordon is a piece of coal. Nothing against Gordon but at this moment in time. Aaron needs a TON of work.

IMO We only have a problem with one of those players not having a consistent shot. Oladipo. He is the shooting guard and hence needs to be able to shoot very well. Payton is the distributor and does not need to shoot all that well necessarily. This is why if we somehow get Russell I have no problem trading Oli. Also I am leaning towards Mario in the draft over Winslow just because he is a pure shooter.

I really don't see what you guy see in Noel. He has no offense. You talk about narrow shoulders. His defense is the only thing he has and he can not handle anyone with size. I would take cauley-stein all day and twice on sundays over noel. At least he has the body and can put some weight on it. Noel is a toothpick and will always be one.

Man u have a lot of free time to mess with people. Please find a life. Or not.

Went to game last night, great game by our guys after 1st quarter. Tough loss. Got beaten on boards a lot by just not boxing out. Place was about 3/4's full, and the people with the best seats were quiet as hell. Why even go to the games if your just going to sit there like your at the movies. Its disgusting and they should lose their season tickets for their UNfandome!!! Oh and if EP would of pulled off that dunk, the place would of erupted. Should of been a foul. They called a lot of touch fouls on us.

Vooch because he is vooch, and not Dwight because he is Douche!!!

I never said he hadn't improved over last season. I believe that Russell has a better upside and seems like a player that knows his limits. Which Oladipo has shown and continues to show he has not found his. I have seen him shoot the lamest shots at the rim this year. These shots have absolutely ZERO chance of going in. It seems that he has put up these kinds of shots at a higher percentage this year, than last. That is the kind of play that concerns me about him.

^ If Ever that Happens, I believe you should say. Hard to change ones stripes.

I can see earlier in the year that the fact that he had missed training camp would effect his conditioning, but by know that issue should have been resolved.

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