Rafael17222

It's always bad news when Jameer starts hitting his shots early. Why? Because he falls in love with his shot and forgets he is our starting point guard and not our shooting guard!! So he starts chucking up shots expecting them to all go in!! Bad shot selection (among other things) killed us in the second half.

Great idea!! Then we can call this place:

Well, with Dooling logging in the backup PG minutes and Carlos being bumped from the backup position. I think its just bad news all around for Travis. That makes him the fourth string PG in Brian Hills Scheme of things!! It started tonight with him being de-activated. If Goukas did state this, it must have been just his opinion because obviously Brian Hill has other plans for Travis. He must like how he looks in a suit!

quote: You ruin our pasta by calling it Spetzle and trying to pass it off as the real thing! Classic!!

quote: Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16: quote: Originally posted by Rafael17222:Careful now, we may have some Dirk fans roaming around these boards ready to pounce on someone!! OMG Rafael! What was I thinking! I have angered the Germans! Do you have my back? Only if your a true Magic fan threw and threw!!! And if you are, of course I got your back!! Because I believe that's the reason why we all joined this message board. But it seems like that's starting to get lost these past couple of days.

quote: Originally posted by Marc Acres 3:16: quote: Originally posted by Rafael17222:Your right John, he may not be a star in the United States, but he is definitely a star in Puerto Rico. Just like Milt Palacio from the Utah Jazz is a star in Belize. Just like Didier llunga-Mbenga from the Dallas Mavericks is a star in Congo. Just like Johan Petro from the Seattle Supersonics is a star in France Just like Stephan Marbury from the N.Y. Knicks is a star in his mind. (sorry I had to throw that one in for some comic relief) These guys may not be household names to just the average NBA fan, but they are definitely stars in their native lands. Is it similar to the way that David Hasselhoff is huge in Germany yet scores off the charts on unintentional comedy here in the U.S.? Careful now, we may have some Dirk fans roaming around these boards ready to pounce on someone!!

quote: Originally posted by John the Jerk: Your right John, he may not be a star in the United States, but he is definitely a star in Puerto Rico. Just like Milt Palacio from the Utah Jazz is a star in Belize. Just like Didier llunga-Mbenga from the Dallas Mavericks is a star in Congo. Just like Johan Petro from the Seattle Supersonics is a star in France Just like Stephan Marbury from the N.Y. Knicks is a star in his mind. (sorry I had to throw that one in for some comic relief) These guys may not be household names to just the average NBA fan, but they are definitely stars in their native lands.

quote: Originally posted by Hutchence: quote: Originally posted by Rafael17222:(If we don't laugh, this place is going to drive us to drink!!) Where was this information before Marc, Nyce and I became alcholics?? Please accept my apologies Hutchence.......

Come on guys, we all the rules: "Diener can not start until he earns his playing time" I believe you can find that in Chapter III Section 1.2.5 Paragraph 2 Line 7 In the Brian Hill's "Coaching for DUMMIES" handbook. I believe the line states: "Diener can not start until he earns his playing time" There, so this entire thread is a complete waste of time. (If we don't laugh, this place is going to drive us to drink!!)

quote: Originally posted by Rafael17222:Carlos Arroyo had every opportunity this season to prove his worth. IMO Coach Hill is doing the right thing by doing what ever it takes to get this team on a winning track. I

Sorry fishybashi, this thread is not getting any responsed because it is too positive and it doesn't fit the mold of the rest of the threads as of late. So let me help you out!! BBaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh Arroyo sucks!! BBaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh Trade everyone except Dwight!! BBaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh The coach is an idiot!!! BBaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh Everyone who doesn't agree is just a moron!! There, that should get you some hits!

quote: Originally posted by emory889:I'll field your question Rafael. The Larry Brown situation is a complex one. He is extremely intelligent with X's and O's but he can be hard on his players. Alot of his success is therefore is determined on the type of players that he is coaching. He came somewhat close in Philly (they got to the Finals) and if you look at the team it was full of lunch pail type of players. Eric Snow, Aaron Mckie, and Mutombo are hardworking consumate proffessional type of players. Larry Brown was very hard on AI and it wore the relationship thin. However they are close today. In the Olympics Iverson made a comment saying that he never appreciated Brown until he was gone. It should be pointed out as well that while Iverson was neve big on practice he always brought it on gameday. The same could be said for Detroit. Brown was very hard on Billups (to the point that Chauncey will to Dumars several times saying that he couldn't play for Brown) but in the end they managed to come to a compromise and it made Billups the player that he is today. The rest of the team was chocked full of hardnosed, tough players that busted their butts on defense and again brought it every night. The difference was that this team had considerably more talent than the Philly team and was able to match up with LA. I think alot of Brown success is determined by the pg that he has to work with. Billups and Snow were very good at doing their jobs. If you look at NY you have the complete opposite in Marbury. Here is a guy that thinks everything should revolve around him and quite frankly everything should be handed to him. It was clear before Brown even took the Knicks job that there wasn't a snowballs chance in hell of the relationship working. Looking at the rest of the roster it wasn't much better. Francis, Jerome James, and Curry are all lazy. Larry Brown did by far his worst coaching job with the Knicks. I don't want it to sound like it wasn't his fault. It is easy to see some of the reasons that it didn't work though. The roster consisted of disgruntled veterans and rookies that just isn't a roster that Brown liked to use. It wasn't a good fit. Thanks Emory! I posed this question, to bring a little attention to what is going on here. Don't miss quote me anyone, I'm not saying that Brian Hill is in the same class as Larry Brown. Let's get that straight! But if you read Emory's response, you can see that the players on a roster (talent personalities and so on) does have

Carlos Arroyo had every opportunity this season to prove his worth. IMO Coach Hill is doing the right thing by doing what ever it takes to get this team on a winning track. I

quote: Originally posted by Rafael17222:It seems as of late, when you ask this question of whether it's the coach or the players not being self motivated, that is resulting in our recent woes. It gets pretty divided on this board of who's to blame. In my opinion, there is enough blame to go around. With that said, you guys are extremely knowledgeable so I will post this question: Some say that Larry Brown in one of the best coaches that ever coached in the NBA. He has been mentioned with the likes of Phil Jackson, Pat Riley and so on. Why was it that he wasn't able to win in Philly with the coach killing Iverson, but he brought a Championship to Detroit? Then he bomb miserably with those misfits in New York. What made Detroit so different that he could easily motivate them, but he got tuned out by Iverson and the whole Knicks roster? Can you guys stop bickering for a second. LOL Someone please answer my question.

quote: Originally posted by longdfan:In the real world chances of Arroyo being an Orlando Magic next year are very slim. Maybe he is good in World and Olympic play but thats not playing against the best in the world every night. Carlos is a scorer and that fits with His PR team but not as a PG in the NBA. He has to feed the other players and that seems to go against his playing style. Which irks me, because he has the court vision to be a good PG, but he can't seem to understand that he is on the floor to facilitate the offense! He needs to control his "ichy trigger finger"! Everything would be fine if he just goes out and does his job and gets everyone involved. But Noooooooooo Once he takes a shot, it's like a crack head taking a hit! He won't stop until you take the "pipe" out of his hands, which in this case it's the rock (no pun intended)

Keyon Dooling echoed the same sentiment when asked about whether or not the coach was to blame during last nights post game interview on WDBO. He put all the blame on the players as well, kind of makes you wonder "What the hell is going on at 1 Magic Place"!!!

It seems as of late, when you ask this question of whether it's the coach or the players not being self motivated, that is resulting in our recent woes. It gets pretty divided on this board of who's to blame. In my opinion, there is enough blame to go around. With that said, you guys are extremely knowledgeable so I will post this question: Some say that Larry Brown in one of the best coaches that ever coached in the NBA. He has been mentioned with the likes of Phil Jackson, Pat Riley and so on. Why was it that he wasn't able to win in Philly with the coach killing Iverson, but he brought a Championship to Detroit? Then he bomb miserably with those misfits in New York. What made Detroit so different that he could easily motivate them, but he got tuned out by Iverson and the whole Knicks roster?

Last night was all business!!

Sure did, there is always alot of noise comming from that part of the arena. I don't know who's louder, you or the gentlemen that sits behind you!! LOL

Dooling played that role for us last year! His energy was infectious, we needed that tonight!!

[/quote I am with you JD, bout **** time we win a game!! John the Jerk, what did your sign say tonight, I couldn't make it out. Hutchence, I'm not trying to Hijack a thread but since you asked it had a picture of Brian Hill as a Caveman holding a club in one hand and a playbook in the other. It Said: Brian Hill's Offensive Philosophy... So Easy a Caveman can do it!!! www.firebrianhill.org P.S. I hope I didn't offend you cavemen on this board. Hutchence next time you see me staggering around with a Sprite and crown (every game) or Poster (sometimes), Stop me and say HI or Shut the h*ll up. I promise not to Bite... John The Jerk That was you!?!?!

I agree nbr; their overall attitude has been extremely disappointing. Just like Ball Junkie, I'm also a season ticket holder. They have been hounding us lately to hurry up and renew, but their lackluster performance is making it difficult to want to fork over my hard earned money. What ever happened to the attitude of wanting to rip out the heart out of your opponent? Like Mike Tyson once said

The next clipboard Brian Hill breaks, should be across someones smiling face!!!

Wow, I ranted and raved on another post, when I should have posted it here!! We need for not only the coaches to be held accountable, but the players to hold each other accountable for their desire or lack there of!!

You know what guys, losing is bad enough. What makes it even worse, is seeing our supposed