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    1 minute ago, ?4thewin said:

    That thought process is really depressing. 

    I feel the same way about after 7 years of losing that fans have a defeatest attitude.  We should be proud of what we have accomplished and what we can accomplish moving forward!   We are the f**king Orlando Magic!  We don't settle for mediority we dare to freaking dream for something great!  Just like in 93 when he had a 1 and 66 chance to get the #1 pick and we did.  I have the attitute of greatness and not settling for something less.  If we fail fine, at least we tried!   

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    15 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

    Sometimes it makes sense to go to war with what you have for a while. 

    With the new lotto odds what you're asking for is being prepared for 7 years years of being a bottom 3 team (7 years times 14% chance of getting the number one pick gives you 98% probability of getting the number one pick). 

    Plus a few years to develop that guy. That's not really palatable for most fans at this point where we've been out of the playoffs for going on 7 years now. 

     

    I am very familiar with the new lotto odds.   I understand the frustration of fans but to me fake success in not success.  I guess I just think differently.  But at the end of the day we all want the same thing and that is we love our team and want them to be successful!

     

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    18 minutes ago, WarDamnMagic said:

    If you want to tank evey season to just stock pile young guys, boy do I have the team for you! *slaps roof of car*

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    Wow congratulating your own take, that is fresh!  I would take the Booker, Ayton, and their pick this year core over what we have.  Their management and coaching is horrible!

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    11 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

    The world where we want to watch a decent basketball team for a few years and want to stop being "lol the magic"

    Oh okay I get it now.  Decent may work for some of you but for me I want greatness, or at least striving for it!  

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    2 minutes ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:

    Our PG position. ?4TheWin has posted the timeline a couple times. Why do you disagree with getting a solid PG for practically nothing but a 1st?

    So we are faced with the same long term PG solution problem in a couple of years?  To get an injury prone 31 yo on a team that is not going to compete anyway?  Please explain to me in what world does that make sense.

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    5 minutes ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:

    He's a bridge or a stop gap and a good one at that. 

    Injuries keep coming up but I'd take 60 games of Conley and DJ or Mack as a backup over our current rotation for the next 3 years. 

    A bridge or stop gap to what?

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    2 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

    Our players are too good to tank effectively. 

    I agree.  That's why we should be focused on moving Vucevic with any other moveable assets and thinking more macro instead of putting band aids on the big problem which is lack of top end talent.

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    3 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

    Basically Pairing Isaac, Bamba, and Gordon with Conley will be good for their development because Conley is an all star caliber point guard and above average at everything you'd want from a point guard. He can shepherd the young players into their prime. His contract expires exactly when you'd want it to, the summer of Isaac's restricted free agency where Gordon and Bamba will be expiring contracts going into that year. That's also a good point guard class with all the point guards from the 2017 draft being restricted free agents along with Lillard an some other high profile names. So basically he gives us a hard decision point where we can commit to building around the combination of those guys while simultaneously having a bunch of cap space to fit around them or pack everything in and tank again. And if Conley declines in the last year he's not going to turn into some terrible player. He'd go from a 20 and 6 guy to a 14 and 6 guy. 

     

    I get all your points.  But I don't believe the Isaac, Bamba, and Gordon core is enough of a talent base moving forward.  And aren't we at a hard decision point right now?  Why not tank now to add to that talent base instead of making it an option in another couple of years?  Conley is a horrible idea and screams for desperation to just be mediocre.  

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    I don't understand what are we making a run at?  Still tied for the 7th worst record in th NBA.  Let's not fall in love with fake progress.  Am I wrong for believing the ulimate goal is to win a championship?  How soon do we forget what it felt like in 95 and 2009?  And the build up to that point.  We have been blessed to have on our team some of the greatest and at the time dominant players in the NBA.  (Shaq, Penny, T-Mac, Dwight).   My point is you look at the last 30 plus years of NBA history every team except for the 04 Pistons had the best or a collection of best players in the league.  Let's be honsest with where we are at right now.

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    On 12/8/2018 at 6:55 PM, ?4thewin said:

    Lol. Yes you can. When you have more picks than roster spots you have excess supply. When you have excess supply you create market disequilibrium. When there's market disequilibrium the value of your product bottoms out. Picks only matter up to a point. 

    Please stop the economics talk with me I have a business degree in finance.  I get it.  Quit trying to be the smartest person in the room and just be a good guy.

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    4 hours ago, magicdoc1 said:

    Dont let this gett you down or upset and try not to be too passionate with your post and responses when someone  goes against your opinion. 

     No one is doubting your intelligence. This is a forum and we are all fans. It is ok to disagree. We all have our shares of disagreements here. I think I have found a way to upset a few in the past here but at the end, we do respect  each other here. 

    Just learn how to accept the critics from other and you will be ok. I think the thumbs down has been too excessive in my opinion but they are mainly against your attacks rather than your opinions. 

    I for one, appreciate you been here and be a participant in this forum. 

    Now, go on and get some likes! 

     

    Thanks man!  It's all good.  Go Magic!

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    47 minutes ago, Originalticketholder said:

    The saga continues......Glad to hear your are a die hard Magic fan like the rest of us here.  And, as your resume shows, you are an NBA fan,  so just like a of us you are entitled to your opinions as fans are.   Nothing more...nothing less.  I have been a fan since the early 1960's and it is what I am.    I did not see anyone saying you know nothing about basketball only questioning what you knew about the particular subject matter you referenced.  Some, on this site, are a lot smarter than just being a fan.  You have had interction for ?4TheWin and I have come to have a high amount of respect for his knowledge, even when his chastised me for my OPINION!.  If you want to get out of that -11 hole you are in, thicken your skin.  The guys and gals on this site are passionate AND merciful.  They are great MAGIC fans.  They are not shy.

    I here you.  And I thank you for reaching out.  :)

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