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2 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:Not sure if you're aware but an 8% chance of something happening is really really bad odds.
Oh wow thanks for pointing that out! You are such a freaking tool!
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7 minutes ago, Ibn Battuta said:That’s so self defeating. Even the posters on this forum have adopted this team’s attitude.
This team should be doing everything to get AD here. And for the record none of us know whether or not AD would consider resigning here.
I totally agree with you. Sometimes you have to take a chance and dare to be great.
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Love the new NBA lottery odds. We are currently at 8.3% compared to the top 3 at 14% . Let's roll the dice! No one can deny landing Zion would immeadiately give this franchise attention and national relevance!
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4 minutes ago, Ibn Battuta said:Why are we inquiring about Jrue Holiday when there’s a bigger prize. That Dell Demps is not a bright fellow. He was going to take a crap offer from LA until Stern came in. Who says he doesn’t win now type players and a pick or two? Offer up Gordon and EF and a couple picks, take back Solo or another junk contract.
Not sure that would work out but I love the attitude! What happened to "Be bold. Be Blue"!
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10 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:He's the best defensive guard in the league and is averaging 25 points, 8 rebounds, and 7 assists since Davis went down. If that's not impact I don't know what is
Yes putting up good numbers on a bad team. Kinda like Vooch.
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2 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:I disagree completely. That's what quality players cost
He is not enough of an impact player at that price. If you are a poor executive and are striving for NBA mediocrity then you go ahead and make that move.
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1 minute ago, ?4thewin said:I have no idea. Obviously the positive impact depends on the cost. It's a sliding scale. But dismissing the idea outright is just wrong
No dismissing this idea is totally correct. He is due $79 million the next 3 years. Makes no sense.
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2 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:It's not really a good presumption.
We lose these games because we run our offense almost exclusively through Ross, vucevic, and Fournier in the fourth quarter. In January Ross is shooting 38/31 vucevic is shooting 41/29 fournier is shooting 38/26. Those guys aren't closers. Gordon has 60/42 splits and gets only 2.1 fga in the fourth quarter but I'm not sure those numbers would hold up with higher usage.
Jrue is a significantly better closer than these guys, fixes the "who does fournier or Augustin defend" problem and makes us significantly better overall.
How is that bad?
Well first who are you giving up to get Jrue?
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16 minutes ago, WarDamnMagic said:Lonzo/Barrett/Isaac/AG/Bamba... thoughts?
No outside shooting. But I love what you are thinking. Young exciting team with huge upside, something to get excited about!!!
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Just now, ?4thewin said:This is just a naive view of what our issues are.
How is it naive when I am just stating facts?
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8 minutes ago, magicdoc1 said:Are you serious?? you are telling me that Jrue doesnt do it for you.
We need to start winning games and jrue is a star talented PG at 29 that can help us achive that. I mean. Westbrook is 30, Harden is 29, Butler is 29. Are you telling me you will not take any of this guys because their ages?
That fact you compared Jrue to Westbrook and Harden tells me something. If Harden was on this team we would be top 4 in the east no doubt!
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3 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:Acquiring talent so these games mean something to the development of the young guys. We're not garbage, we're flawed. If we were garbage we wouldn't have leads in these games. Obtaining an all star caliber player for a few years is nothing like paying a backup center a giant contract.
"Oh no we're only a playoff team for a few years, the horror!"
If you are tied for the 6th worst record in the leaugue and 8-18 in your last 26 games you are garbage. And no Conley or Jrue is going to fix that big picture problem.
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4 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:Lol no
Lol. What would be the overall benefit short term and long term in your opinion?
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I see NO waiting for a Boston offer in the summer. The Magic going after Jrue or Conley would be the the worst move since the Biyombo signing! Any trades for younger players on our timeline make more sense.
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9 minutes ago, JJZFL said:By that theory, and the assumption that you only can get talent with top draft picks, every team that’s any good now would have to have tanked. Which is obviously not the case.
This idea that there’s only one way to create a good team, and that’s to be terrible until you luck into a superstar, is what’s driving what we’ve become.
Look at NBA finals the last 30 years and tell me how many times one of their stars was a player selected outside of the top five? Start with the one Golden State title.
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2 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:He expires next summer
Exactly. New Orleans can be patient.
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1 minute ago, ML6 said:I am shocked at this Klutch sports development.
Lol!
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1 minute ago, ?4thewin said:LA is pretty much the only place he can be traded
Cant't they hold out for the summer for a better Boston offer?
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7 minutes ago, JJZFL said:Just lose all year long. Don’t try at all. That’s the secret to developing a winning outlook in your young players, and to finding long term success.
Hiw many years of futility will it take to convince some of you that this is the exact opposite of what we should be doing?
If you don't have the right young talent it is irrelevent what you are trying to develop. This is the NBA talent trumps everything.
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AD has requested a trade from the Pelicans.
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3 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:Again, we didn't lose the tanking battle in March, we lost it in October.
We finished the last 28 games on 20 win pace and won a few games playing g-league players plus hezonja 35 mpg. There's nothing more we could have done
Good point. I went back to look at the end of last years schedule and we definitely did everything we could to put ourselves in a good position at the end to be honest. But on Nov. 10th we were 8-4 so there we go.
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48 minutes ago, Mauro Pedrosa said:Who could have predicted a 4th quarter meltdown?
That's what happens when you don't have the most talent!
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27 minutes ago, ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS said:Gazillionaire Cuban got fined for admitting they were going to tank, then they blatantly tanked and ended up with Doncic. What's wrong with that picture?
A lot is wrong with that but that was the current system and he got his guy.
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2 minutes ago, HeHateMe said:If we need more than 3 players to be a good team (PG and some guys who can shoot well as you stated) we are garbage at our current state.
Also we tend to pencil in BIG and just assume that’s some great young nucleus but the reality is we have little evidence suggesting that to be the case.
Im the least optimistic I’ve been in the future of our team than I’ve ever been during this rebuild.
I had more hope when we had Dipo, Harkless Harris, Vuch. I at least thought that core could be good (though probably never great).
I am not convinced we have 1 sure thing on our team. We’ll see what happens and I’m obviously hoping for the best but I don’t see it. I see no light at the end of the tunnel right now.
I think this roster gets blown up by the summer. Couple moves be the deadline aimed at the future than more in the summer.
It’s time to take the trash out.
I am standing up clapping right now!!! Thank you for saying this. It's long overdue for Welt/Ham to be bold and put a plan in place moving forward!
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To everyone on this board. What is your best case scenerio moving forward with this team?