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3 hours ago, Franchise408 said:This doesnt really make sense, why wouldn't players want to play for a team that will give them pay increases and job security?
IE loyalty
Players in the NBA are paid based on demand and/or production. All teams will give increases based on what they believe a players market worth is, no more but sometimes less. At the end of the day, the NBA is a business like any other and smart teams/businesses aren't going broke for any particular individual they know won't bring them much return.
Maybe the Magic like Vucevic or Ross (or anyone else) as humans beings but if they didn't believe Vooch and Ross add value to the team, they wouldn't have offered them a dime, doesn't really matter how much they like them. Businesses don't carry human emotions, only a bottom line. In the NBA there are two bottom lines, money and winning. With Vooch and Ross, the Magic are more likely to win games and filling seats.
Players know all of this and will go where they feel happiest and/or are getting paid the most. Some players just go play in cities they love, some other players will go to the team that give them best chance of winning a championship. No player moves to a team because its the most loyal out of any other lol. It's cute believing a company cares about you and loves you or what not but that's not realistic.
Again, this is just my opinion.
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Honestly, I believe players don't really care that much about "loyalty". Most people (in any work environment) don't really wonder about loyalty.
With me, I come in to work and ask myself "Do I mind coming in to work here everyday? Ehhhh... not really.. Am I getting paid well? Sure, I guess". These are the usual questions most people ask themselves everyday. People really only start wondering about their jobs when they're burned out (and need a change of scenery), want more money, want to further advance their careers, or they can't grow with their current company.
Sure, their might be a couple of folks that really really care about loyalty but most don't. I don't see how basketball players would be any different. There's a ton of teams out there that have been nothing but loyal to their players, but major free agents are not racing to join these teams.
IMO, the only thing the Magic can hope for is that our younger players become stars or at least good enough that we can use them in a trade for a disgruntled super star. I guess we could also get lucky with trading for some misused players or reclamation projects.
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55 minutes ago, jjgator said:Makes up for not signing Durant.
Basically every signing from here on out makes up for not singing Durant lol
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On 5/26/2019 at 10:58 AM, ?4thewin said:1. To accumulate more talent. You don't build a team for October. You build a team for the next 5 years. Maybe he's good and we can trade Isaac or Gordon for a star. Maybe he's good and we can trade him for a star without giving up any of our current young core. Maybe he's just a really really good backup center who gives us something different to pair with Bamba in the rotation.
2. Utah had 7 guys filling pg/sg minutes when they drafted Mitchell. You think they regret it?
3. There's overwhelming likelihood we get a backup wing at 16.
4. While I don't necessarily agree with them, there's a very large subsection of NBA draft people that think Clarke is the second or third best player in this draft. He's going to slip because he's 22, undersized, not long and can't currently shoot threes. But he led the nation in both offensive rating and defensive rating, had a box score plus minus that was better than any player in college basketball (with the exception of Zion) since the 10/11 season which is the first year bballref has it, and for conventional stats shot 71% on two pointers with 3.2 blocks per game.
On offense he reminds me a lot of Ben Simmons... minus all of the playmaking ability ofcourse lol. Pretty good finisher at the rim, hard to stop once he gets rolling, and he has a solid floater/spin hook. I don't know if he has star potential but he could definitely be a solid player.
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On 5/1/2019 at 11:16 AM, ?4thewin said:Stein says Mavs don't really like vucevic. Their targets are kemba and Middleton
Yeah the Mavs just got Porzingis, why would they want to spend money on Vooch? Unless he's coming in for cheap to play off of the bench or something.. I'm not really getting why some writers are trying to push the idea. Are they just trying to make the Mavs into the Eastern Euro team? lol
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9 minutes ago, MagicOne said:Cliff COTY ?
Lol No...
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3 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:In other words, we better win one more game to make sure we secure our spot. I guess other teams can lose the rest of their games and we could still make it that way (mathematically at least), but if we win one more we're definitely in.
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Considering how poorly the magic are shooting , I think they're doing pretty well. Only thing I'm worried about is the team running out of gas in the second half.
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1 minute ago, DirtDan2012 said:Huh......???? How's Joel not get called for that obvious charge...
Lol, Gordon's was way more obvious. The refs let it go though!
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1 hour ago, ?4thewin said:Phoenix beat Milwaukee?
but.. but.. how?? Bucks are the number one team in the east! The Bucks must be as horrible as the Suns.. Only the Bucks would lose to the worst team in the league... No way these dudes can win the 'ship!... (all sarcasm, just teasing some of our bipolar fans on here lol)
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Sooo now that we have Fultz, when is the kid going to start playing?? Initially he was supposed to be out 3-6 weeks but its been about that long already. Has anyone heard anything since?
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7 minutes ago, Soul Bro said:soooo either the Raptors are prepping for a rebuild or they're trying to make room for free agents.
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5 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:If we get Conley without giving up a big piece I think we win 40+ this year
Yup and who knows if he becomes the "piece" that makes us contenders in the east. You just never know how these trades will go. He could be the perfect player to compliment our current team. He's definitely worth the gamble if the price isn't too high.
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Simmons (and Fournier at times) playmaking is really hurting us. Theres basically zero playmaking off the bench. It says a lot about Grant and Briscoe that they can't get minutes even with Simmons playing at his worst...
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Here's my trade...
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9dvhjrd
The trade centerpieces are Fournier to Wiz, Beal to Mavs, DSJ to Magic. Washington can't fully rebuild since they're stuck with Wall forever, so send Fournier and Simmons plus our first rounder and perhaps Mavs can fill in with some 2nd Rounders. We take DSJ and Wes Matthews, Mavs take Beal and Grant. I don't know if it would be possible to keep our 1st rounder in this scenario though, it really wouldn't be fair without the 1st rounder. Still feels like Wizards would be getting the short end of the stick but who cares, they're the Wiz! lol
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29 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:This is interesting... Seattle needs to have a team already.
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The Magic are just trying to make Vooch look good for that Kemba trade! lol
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4 hours ago, ?4thewin said:Gordon played all but 2 minutes and 46 seconds in the second half. With 4 minutes and 44 seconds left in the game he skied for an offensive rebound walked to the corner, doubled over and called for a timeout. 63 seconds later we called another timeout to get him some rest without taking him out of the game. He was gassed. Saying he shouldn't be tired is dumb macho bs and completely discredits the fact he took no plays off last night. You want him to finish games with more energy, expect him to play crappy defense.
Yup. Playing hard on both sides of the court for a full game is really difficult even in a park setting, I cant imagine the NBA. Occasionally you'll get the sloppy play or two. There's definitely nothing to complain about from Gordon's game last night, dude was everywhere.
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32 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:The weed just gets better and better every year lol
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Weight is overrated, it's all about strength. You can weigh 215lbs and be just strong as someone that's 250lbs. This is how Harden pushes everyone out of the way despite being 220lbs.
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1 hour ago, ?4thewin said:Can we talk about how absurd it is that we only had 7 healthy games and went 7-0
Yup. With how efficient Gordon was (before injury), I think we had a good chance of making it. I just wonder if Gordon could've kept going the rest of the season shooting that well.
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20 minutes ago, ~O~ said:In the comment section of this video, some guys says he's a bust then goes on to say that Anthony Bennett.........of all people.......lmao......had a better summer league showing.
I wonder if these people are saying the same thing about Ayton after his first game...
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I'm not sure what the worry is with IT. If we're just signing him to a 1 or 2 year deal, I think there isn't much of an issue. He either works out or he doesn't, our long term success doesn't hinge on IT being great. If we want to be a good team, we have to hope our frontcourt turns into something special. I'm pretty sure no one is beating the warriors anytime soon anyways lol. Develop the front court and hope for the best!
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Hello all! First time poster, longgggg time stalker (since the Dwight days). JJJ looks good n all but the dude should try grabbing a couple of rebounds lol. Other than the rebounding, he's shown what he could be.
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2019 Offseason Thread
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Haha yup. I think we know what everyone else is going to bring us, more or less. Fultz is the only real mystery but realistically we really shouldn't expect (if he's healthy and plays the whole season) anything more than 10/3/3 a game this season. We just need some tease snaps of Fultz draining like two 3's in the gym to really get us talking on here though.