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You’re already seeing how much his role Is diminished with CJ healthy. He’s an afterthought now. There’s no way they’re going to pay him.
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2 minutes ago, CTMagicUK said:I've got to say for all the uncertainty with this season's trade deadline and in the middle of such a bad season I'm very happy that there's a bit of a buzz about this place again.
lol I made this account so long ago. And my friends are sick of me talking about the Magic...who most outsiders see as an incredibly irrelevant franchise. So I wanted to hop back on and get into some good convo with you guys
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2 minutes ago, hootie249 said:Yeah it would be stupid for them to move him. He's cheap and good. Speaking of troubled young players, anyone want Porter jr from the Rockets if we complete a trade with them?
Heard he’s untouchable. Wood and Porter Jr absolutely untouchable apparently going forward.
id say no anyway because he moved to PG and is extremely ball dominant. Don’t see how he would Mesh with Fultz at all.
Total head case and super star level talent tho. Fun package. Lol
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2 minutes ago, Jason Funderburker said:I would still draft Green after getting Trent tho lol
Technically Trent could play SF too. But not ideal
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They also just recently rejected a trade offer which included Beasley for John Collins, who is a better player than Aaron Gordon. They have no intentions of moving Beasley.
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Beasley is certainly not available. They love him. Gave him a hefty new contract, got him a support system, stuck by him with all the off court nonsense and suspension. Etc
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There are a lot of people in nba circles out there that believe Mcdaniels has star written all over him
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Mcdaniels would be obvious get...I’d go as far as trying to pry little used Okogi or Nowell as well and Culver would assuredly be in it with salary filler to make it work. (Ed Davis)
Minnesota’s young talent pool runs deep. They are gonna trade first rounders there...so a surplus of young talent back is your best bet
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In any case...Trent Jr would solve your two guard issue off the jump and be a nice fit with Fultz in the backcourt.
Like i said having potentially four 23 and younger guys controlled for 4-5 years doesn’t sound like a bad problem.
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9 minutes ago, hootie249 said:Hood's contract is not guaranteed next year so trading either Evan or Gordon to Portland would result in salary relief if Hood and Collins were the filler sent back. The question is what young player and/or pick would they or could they send. To be clear you would not pick up either option. You could possibly convince either player to sign a prove it one year cheap contract.
Trent Jr is the prize acquisition. And honestly, I think that’s just fine. Aside from maybe drafting Jalen Green...Orlando has a massive two guard problem going into next season. Trent Jr provides the scoring punch and potential to justify handing out a decently lucrative contract comparable to Dillon Brooks or Malik Beasley.
I wasn’t positive if hoods contract was guaranteed or not. So yes...Hood and Collins expiring contracts and Trent Jr., is a more than fair deal, IMO. Would Orlando probably want a pick as well? Probably. But the compensation to me seems absolutely fine.
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Mark Murphy: Per source: Celtics talks with Orlando re: Aaron Gordon “still alive, but everyone does everything at last minute.” Celtics offering first round pick and a young player – not Marcus Smart – and are trying not to include second pick in the deal.
Celtics playing hard ball with adding a second first and will not include Marcus Smart -
I wouldn’t put it past this front office to go big once again. Would anyone really be surprised if they took Evan Mobley and tried to play him at the four next two Vooch? lol. Even tho Mobley is essentially the perfect modern day center. But that also means being a Chris Bosh/young Aldridge type.
im all in on Cade, Green, or Kuminga personally. A lot of this all hinges on if orlando Is going to get a starting caliber player back in Gordon or Fournier deals. If Orlando could net like Trent Jr or Obi Toppin it could have major ripples on what Orlando does with a top 5 pick
edit...just a side note. But the Kuminga initial fit may be a mess, as exciting a talent as he is...he was horrendous from Three in the g league. While him and Isaac would be interchangeable pieces at the forward spots...I’d be a little worried about these guys being able to consistently hit the open three...which will kill you in today’s game
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6 hours ago, hootie249 said:I was joking. There was a reminder in a CBS article that the Magic almost traded Gordon to the Suns last deadline for Oubre and a pick. In my hopeful mind that pick was actually a pick swap with the suns last draft and we either drafted Haliburton or Vassell. But then i woke from that happy dream and here we are, can't wait to see what they do now. Because we all knew this was coming. The same thing will happen next year with Bamba.
Gotcha boss. Haha.
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12 minutes ago, CTMagicUK said:Trent Jr is going to command 15+ m a year in the off-season. No cap relief at all.
Cap relief in the sense that they can sign Trent Jr. Collins would be an expiring contract. Makes things a little more manageable. And why wouldn’t you want to pay him? Unfortunately you’d have Hood on the books for a year. But you’d make the deal with every intent of Trent Jr being your long term solution at the two guard.
Orlando would have three early 20 cogs tied up for 5 years, and incoming top 3ish pick on a rookie deal. Could Be worse
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Im No insider but I feel like the only thing that would hold up a Trent Jr trade would be Orlando wanting to get back a first as well. Which honestly...I’d be more than happy with a little cap relief and a 20+ ppg potential 23 year old wing. No need to get greedy there.
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Gordon is what he is. He’d be a perfect piece to a championship contending roster, surrounded by outside shooters. So he can play to his strengths. He could focus less on chucking threes and playing point forward...and thrive slashing with his athleticism and focused defense.
he’s not a star...will probably never be a star...but very valuable to the right team in the right situation
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Houston has re-emerged as potential favorite and remain engaged in talks with Orlando as of this morning I read.
and apparently Dame Lillard is lobbying for Gordon hard so maybe a Trent Jr acquisition isn’t totally out of the equation.
and fully healthy...meaning Fultz and Cole are back in the fold...Smart is a SG. And would be terrible next to these guys. Absolutely right, where’s the spacing? None of these guys are consistent from range at all.
marcus Smart is like a career 40% shooter, which is horrendous. Orlando needs points from that two guard position desperately. Consistency.
with two inconsistent shooters at PG...is Orlando really in a position to play Smart starter minutes like he gets in Boston? Maybe if they want to score 85 ppg
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I don’t even want Marcus smart. This team already sucks from 3. He adds nothing to the team. He’s an inefficient scoring two if everyone is healthy.
what’s the point?
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Haliburton? He’s like the steal of the draft and the kings absolutely love him. Dream. Haha .
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Raps are motivated to move Norman Powell. Sigh. Dude is such a dangerous scorer...I just wish he was like 4 years younger. If Orlando goes full rebuild, he’s kind of on a different path.
He’s also a free agent come this off-season. So many fun names out there this year...Trent Jr, Powell, Nunn, Markannen, Horton-Tucker, Diallo, etc.
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18 minutes ago, TrueBlueDrew said:Magic Trade - AG, Fournier, and Birch
Trailblazers Trade - CJ, Gary Trent, and Enes Kanter
https://tradenba.com/trades/BAIGOJmA-
Thoughts?
CJ is a franchise cog...he’s the whole reason Trent Jr is gonna walk in free agency. With CJ back from injury, Trent Jrs role has been effected greatly. CJ and Dame are their guys. CJ may get moved in the future....but right now they’re all in with those two stars heading into this years playoff
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Watch AG get hurt tonight.
they shouldn’t even be playing him.
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19 hours ago, hootie249 said:Houston owes OKC their pick in this years draft from the Westbrook trade. Unless it's top 4. They cannot trade that pick. They do own their own 2022 and 2023 picks plus a bunch from Brooklyn and a pick from Portland and some other team i forget.
Def spaced on that fact. Sigh.
im still holding out hope for a last second Portland deal. I’ve warmed to the idea of the Boston deal. Still not in love, but warming to
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If we were dealing Evan to the knicks...the likelihood would be multiple expiring contracts, Kevin Knox and a future pick.
if it was me...I’d start the conversation with Obi Toppin. The knicks brass never expected Randle to blossom into a legitimate star and all-star. Obi plays 8 minutes per game and is stuck in a Mo Bamba like situation and he can’t play center either. Wasted pick by the knicks, who he needs new life elsewhere
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2020-2021 Official Magic Season Thread
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Bamba was available tonight ; Ross was questionable and then later ruled out with a “sore knee”.