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2 hours ago, JJZFL said:

Anthony?  Really??

Admire the optimism but I sure don’t see it.  

I can see it. Edwards is a super explosive athlete and if he can improve his shooting he'll be great! As a second year player, already asserting himself as the alpha on the team that is now back in the playoffs in the west is no easy feat. And he talks a great game!!

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6 minutes ago, MagicMoses said:

I can see it. Edwards is a super explosive athlete and if he can improve his shooting he'll be great! As a second year player, already asserting himself as the alpha on the team that is now back in the playoffs in the west is no easy feat. And he talks a great game!!

Think that JJ thought you were talking about Cole Anthony at first, lol.. agreed on Anthony Edwards. That kid is gonna be great 

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4 hours ago, JJZFL said:

Anthony?  Really??

Admire the optimism but I sure don’t see it.  

   You don't watch enough NBA my friend. I'm not sure about anyone becoming a star anymore because the league has changed so much. But Anthony was a legit number one. What he does with his career is up to him. That kid is very inconsistent right now but if you watch he has what it takes and he is only 20! read that again, he is only 20. He is 20 and has walked the walk and talked the talk at 20. He looks more like a sure thing then Any Magic player drafted since Dwight.

He is not Wiggins or Kat. Still might never get there but he has already shown more then either of Minnesota's other number ones. 

Actually feel the need to edit. Kat is an amazingly talented player but damn he is so one or maybe two dimensional. He is not Jokic, not Embiid, not really anything except a really tall player with great shooting percentages for his size. What does he do? Anthony Davis has been a slight disappointment during his career but only because of injuries. Unlike Kat, when Davis is fully functional he is a legit 2 way player and 3 level threat on offense in a centers body!

Kat is not a great rebounder, not a great passer doesn't have above average handles, has pathetic post moves for his size and tenure in the league and has been proven to be a defensive liability his whole career. 

Someone needs to light a fire under his ass. 

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10 minutes ago, hootie249 said:

   You don't watch enough NBA my friend. I'm not sure about anyone becoming a star anymore because the league has changed so much. But Anthony was a legit number one. What he does with his career is up to him. That kid is very inconsistent right now but if you watch he has what it takes and he is only 20! read that again, he is only 20. He is 20 and has walked the walk and talked the talk at 20. He looks more like a sure thing then Any Magic player drafted since Dwight.

He is not Wiggins or Kat. Still might never get there but he has already shown more then either of Minnesota's other number ones. 

Actually feel the need to edit. Kat is an amazingly talented player but damn he is so one or maybe two dimensional. He is not Jokic, not Embiid, not really anything except a really tall player with great shooting percentages for his size. What does he do? Anthony Davis has been a slight disappointment during his career but only because of injuries. Unlike Kat, when Davis is fully functional he is a legit 2 way player and 3 level threat on offense in a centers body!

Kat is not a great rebounder, not a great passer doesn't have above average handles, has pathetic post moves for his size and tenure in the league and has been proven to be a defensive liability his whole career. 

Someone needs to light a fire under his ass. 

Sorry.  Total misunderstanding.  I thought you were talking about Cole Anthony.  You are right on target.

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So with Fultz looking like he’s finally ready to achieve his draft status …how does anybody foresee Cole Anthony moving forward with this team ? What will his role be ?

Curious …

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15 hours ago, ball junkie said:

So with Fultz looking like he’s finally ready to achieve his draft status …how does anybody foresee Cole Anthony moving forward with this team ? What will his role be ?

Curious …

Markelle won't play 48 MPG, or the full 82 games, injuries can happen to any player at any time.

Cole, 22 when the season starts, is an asset for this FO and they got him relatively cheap, $3.5 M this season.

If the FO can master a blockbuster trade Cole as an asset is tradeable. Other than this scenario, Cole is part of the FULL rebuild the FO is orchestrating.

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Oh well… this does sound like goodbye to me.

Would we be able/willing to offer him something like 100M/4 years?

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1 hour ago, JayMac said:

Oh well… this does sound like goodbye to me.

Would we be able/willing to offer him something like 100M/4 years?

It's HIGHLY probable that the Bulls offer Zach a max contact of $200M / 5 years....he is eligible. They can go $160M / 4 years.

Zach is NOT coming to Orlando next year except when the Bulls visit the Magic.

The star or stars or superstar players will be found via the drafts.....the 2021 (Suggs and Franz) , 2022 and 2023 drafts. 

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3 hours ago, JayMac said:

Oh well… this does sound like goodbye to me.

Would we be able/willing to offer him something like 100M/4 years?

The more important thing to read into here is we own their first round pick next year.

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Will Jalen Suggs and Cole Anthony improve at the rim?

The Orlando Magic were a bad offensive team. There is no other way to say it. The team had the second-worst offensive rating in the league and they were down near the bottom of every offensive category. The Magic’s biggest challenge as they map their future is figuring out how to score.
 

Simple enough?

It does have to start with the guards with the team’s two young guards who carried a lot of the possession burden.

Cole Anthony led the team in scoring with 16.3 points per game, but he shot only 39.1-percent from the floor. Anthony was pushed into the role of the main scorer when he may not have been best suited for it.

Jalen Suggs’ offensive struggles throughout the season were really apparent. He had a rough rookie year, averaging 11.8 points per game and shot 36.1-percent from the floor and 21.4-percent from beyond the arc.

This is team is very reliant on their guards for offense.

There is a lot for both Anthony and Suggs to improve and work on this offseason. Their 3-point shooting is high on the list.

So too should their ability to finish at the rim.

Anthony shot 55.0-percent in the restricted area on 2.8 field goal attempts per game. Suggs shot 58.9-percent in the restricted area on 4.0 field goal attempts per game.

Among players with at least 2.5 field goal attempts per game within five feet, Anthony had the 11th-worst mark at 52.1-percent on 3.3 attempts per game. Suggs finished 22nd-worst at 54.7-percent on 4.5 attempts per game. Suggs had the 29th most field goal attempts within five feet among guards.

It should be noted too that R.J. Hampton’s finishing at the rim and within five feet were worse than both Cole Anthony and Jalen Suggs.

It is easy to see the Magic have a problem finishing at the rim with their guards and on their drives. And that is where a lot of the league’s success is coming these days. Guards drive the league and the ability to get to the rim and put pressure on defenses is critical to creating the space to kick out to the 3-point line.
The Magic’s guards have a long way to go to improve in these areas. But this is a spot where the Magic have to find some improvement. And it could be the key to unlocking the next phase in their development.

 

Can Wendell Carter thrive in a two-big lineup?

The other big revelation for this season for the Orlando Magic came from Wendell Carter.

Carter had a career season, averaging 15.0 points and 10.5 rebounds per game. He was even better later in the season, averaging 19.6 points and 11.6 rebounds per game after the All-Star Break.

It felt like the Magic had a solid backstop defensively and a good modern center for the team to begin building a little more consistently around. Carter feels like a building block piece.

But there was something else to the puzzle. Something that could figure to be important for this team as they rebuild. Wendell Carter played a lot of minutes alongside another center in Mo Bamba. And that backstop very realistically may not be there again next year.

There should at least be some examination of whether Carter can play full-time and alone at center without that big man backstop — even though Carter is a capable one-on-one defender for some of the best centers in the league.

According to Basketball-Reference, Carter played just 37-percent of his minutes at center. He played 1,013 of his 1,852 minutes (54.7-percent) alongside Mo Bamba. He played 66 additional minutes alongside Moe Wagner and 82 minutes with Robin Lopez.

That means Carter played 62.7-percent of his minutes alongside another center.

There are more two-big lineups going around the league. So this is not as abnormal as it might feel. There is a little bit of a shift away from small ball. And Carter’s versatility enables him to switch between the 4 and 5 pretty easily.

But it is still fairly unclear what would happen if Carter were left alone without a center.

The draft may resolve some of these problems. Chet Holmgren has gotten instant comparisons to Mo Bamba for his size, shot-blocking ability and lack of frame. There is something to saying this whole season was a dry run for seeing if a Carter-Holmgren pairing could work.
 

The other two top guys in this draft are power forwards in Jabari Smith and Paolo Banchero. But they are not like the center that was a backstop for Carter.

Carter is very good. And this whole conversation is a sign the Magic should be thinking of ways to get the most out of Carter.

https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2022/04/29/orlando-magic-season-recap-5-questions-for-the-offseason/5/

So who or what should we draft …a guard or Holmgren ?

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