MagicFanDan 121 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, CTMagicUK said: If by "a forward" he means Franz or Paolo it's a hard pass from me. No idea who he meant by “a forward”, but if I had to guess I’d say Issac. Hoping it’s Chuma, but doubtful. Franz and Paolo are untouchable in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagicFanDan 121 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 50 minutes ago, Soul Bro said: Soul Bro is strapped in! Same! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagicFanDan 121 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 If we could pull of the trade I shared the other day for DM: Suggs, Ross, Bamba, Chuma, 2023 orl pick, 2023 Chi Pick, 2025 orl pick, 2025 Den pick, 2024 swap. We would have a depth chart of: PG: Fultz/Cole SG: DM/ Harris SF: Franz/ Issac PF: Paolo/ Issac C: WCJ/ Mo Wagner That’s a solid 9 man rotation IMO. I think we would firmly be in the playoffs. I’d say 5-7 seed in the east. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul Bro 1,419 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 Listening to Simmons podcast. He clearly thinks we have the best assets to get DM, though he doesn't know if DM would be happy in Orlando. His co-host: "You have to do it." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TreyMachine 395 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 40 minutes ago, Soul Bro said: Listening to Simmons podcast. He clearly thinks we have the best assets to get DM, though he doesn't know if DM would be happy in Orlando. His co-host: "You have to do it." I actually do think that there's this idea of "We have enough young assets. You can only give some much time on the court if you have 7-8 good young assets." I think you do 4+ 1st's for DM if you're Orlando. Your goal is no longer to lose. You say, "This is our team, and we're making the jump over the next 2-3 years - all-in on betting on this." I honestly think that we only get DM if we give up Franz or Paolo in Utah's mind. I don't think we get him otherwise and I think it will ultimately be the hold-up from getting a deal done on either party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Funderburker 111 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, TreyMachine said: I actually do think that there's this idea of "We have enough young assets. You can only give some much time on the court if you have 7-8 good young assets." I think you do 4+ 1st's for DM if you're Orlando. Your goal is no longer to lose. You say, "This is our team, and we're making the jump over the next 2-3 years - all-in on betting on this." I honestly think that we only get DM if we give up Franz or Paolo in Utah's mind. I don't think we get him otherwise and I think it will ultimately be the hold-up from getting a deal done on either party. Yeah, Utah is not giving up their best player without giving us one of our two best prospects in return. It’s weird, Mitchell is undoubtedly a better player than Franz, but it is still a tough hurdle for me to get over in my mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTMagicUK 1,476 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, Jason Funderburker said: Yeah, Utah is not giving up their best player without giving us one of our two best prospects in return. It’s weird, Mitchell is undoubtedly a better player than Franz, but it is still a tough hurdle for me to get over in my mind 5th year Mitchell is obviously better than rookie Franz. But big 2 way wings who can create for themselves and others are the most valuable archetype in basketball and small guards (who are not the greatest shooter of all time) consistently fall short in the playoffs. Not to mention we've got at least 7 more years of Franz (3 years left on his rookie deal plus a 4 year extension) whereas we'd only be guaranteed 3 years of Mitchell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soul Bro 1,419 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 I don't recall Simmons mentioning trading Paulo or Franz. He mentioned something like Cole, Suggs, Isaac and multiple picks/swaps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Eyes On Me 1,196 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 The Simmons stuff is interesting, especially cause he’s usually a hardcore Magic hater. I don’t think he has many reliable sources outside of Boston, probably just speculating like we all are. We’ve got the most attractive assets to deal for a disgruntled superstar in the league, and that window will close as rookie deals start to expire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hootie249 293 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 There won't be a trade because you cannot win with Ainge. Simple as that. Guy has proved it time and time again. To trade with him might as well be signing your own resignation as a GM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Better DJ & Photographer 456 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 How much better than a healthy Harris is DM? I think Suggs, Ross, Bamba, Chuma, 2023 orl pick, 2023 Chi Pick, 2025 orl pick, 2025 Den pick, 2024 swap is an overpay, especially if our 2023 is unprotected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CTMagicUK 1,476 Report post Posted July 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, A Better DJ & Photographer said: How much better than a healthy Harris is DM? . Orders of magnitude better. Don't get me I personally wouldn't give up what it would take to get Donovan but it has legitimately nothing to do with how good Gary Harris is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites