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Good thing for tonight is effort. This is what is gonna make this season fun. Ignore Ws and Ls, especially while 3 starters are out and just keep playing your butts off. 

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5 hours ago, s1n1st3r12 said:

i will agree he did not live up to his hype however he is far from a bust, Anthony Bennett and Hasheem Thabeet are a couple of names that come to mind as busts. 

Just because other players were worse, doesn't make AG not a bust. In other words, better than horrible doesn't mean good or valuable, it just means less horrible. However someone views AG, what's indisputable is the franchise definitely was hoping for more out of a 4th overall pick.

Since Dwight was traded we've had six top 6 picks:

2013 - Oladipo - 2nd
2014 - AG - 4th
2015 - Hezonja - 5th
2017 - Isaac - 6th
2018 - Bamba - 6th
2021 - Suggs - 5th

 

So far none of them have turned into franchise players and half of them are gone with Isaac (who I believe is the best player of the group) so far not contributing much because of injuries. These picks are supposed to result in a Tmac/Penny/Dwight type of player. Obviously not all the time, but at least sometimes. It's what high picks are for. We're going on nearly a 10 year rebuild since Dwight was traded and were forced to purge the roster and start completely over directly because of our inability to draft a true franchise player.

They desperately need Suggs to work out, if he doesn't it's going to set us back another several years.

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2nd night of a back to back against a physical Heat team I'm just happy we were competitive through most of it. 

Transition defense, turnovers and some spurts of terrible offense killed us. 

Franz, still great. 

I thought RJ was better this game. Still don't like it when he handles the ball in the half court but I thought he was better on defense. 

We kind of need somebody to get hot every night because we just don't have the offensive creation to win otherwise. Nobody got hot. 

I enjoy Robin Lopez.

 

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Haven't chimed in. Team can be fun to watch. The Knicks win was great, no long losing streak to start the season. Ross does look weird out there. 22 points in the fourth in NY and whatever he did yesterday. He better focus cause he ain't going anywhere until at least mid December. Suggs and Wagner show me what i think we need to see. Cole lit it up got to give him props for how hard  he plays. WCJ is a rock. It's obvious why he got the contract. Bamba is a tease it's always one great play for two boneheaded plays. He still can't pick and roll. Rj is interesting if he can start hitting shots he might become very dangerous with his speed. His BBIQ is low though. 

Also to answer the couple previous posts, yes our picks have mostly been busts. That's why the Magic have close to the worst record the last 10 years. Yeah a ton of bad luck and bad moves as well. Oh well, let's go! i like this group. 

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12 hours ago, harley said:

So? you can't tell me Ignas is worthy of a spot? I kills us in games when we actually need them.

He’s not a regular roster guy, but is on a two-way contract. He is up and getting minutes because we are short on healthy forwards. Once the Lakeland team starts playing, he will spend most of the time there.

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10 hours ago, Eskobar said:

Just because other players were worse, doesn't make AG not a bust. In other words, better than horrible doesn't mean good or valuable, it just means less horrible. However someone views AG, what's indisputable is the franchise definitely was hoping for more out of a 4th overall pick.

Since Dwight was traded we've had six top 6 picks:

2013 - Oladipo - 2nd
2014 - AG - 4th
2015 - Hezonja - 5th
2017 - Isaac - 6th
2018 - Bamba - 6th
2021 - Suggs - 5th

 

So far none of them have turned into franchise players and half of them are gone with Isaac (who I believe is the best player of the group) so far not contributing much because of injuries. These picks are supposed to result in a Tmac/Penny/Dwight type of player. Obviously not all the time, but at least sometimes. It's what high picks are for. We're going on nearly a 10 year rebuild since Dwight was traded and were forced to purge the roster and start completely over directly because of our inability to draft a true franchise player.

They desperately need Suggs to work out, if he doesn't it's going to set us back another several years.

Unfortunately franchise players are uncommon.  It’s an important reason  you and I agree on the futility of tanking.  You’re lucky to get 3-4 franchise players in a good draft, less otherwise, and half of those may fall outside the top five.  So I don’t know that a benchmark for success for selections 3-6 would be a franchise player.  A good solid starter on a good team is probably a fair expectation.  

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11 hours ago, Eskobar said:

Just because other players were worse, doesn't make AG not a bust. In other words, better than horrible doesn't mean good or valuable, it just means less horrible. However someone views AG, what's indisputable is the franchise definitely was hoping for more out of a 4th overall pick.

Since Dwight was traded we've had six top 6 picks:

2013 - Oladipo - 2nd
2014 - AG - 4th
2015 - Hezonja - 5th
2017 - Isaac - 6th
2018 - Bamba - 6th
2021 - Suggs - 5th

 

So far none of them have turned into franchise players and half of them are gone with Isaac (who I believe is the best player of the group) so far not contributing much because of injuries. These picks are supposed to result in a Tmac/Penny/Dwight type of player. Obviously not all the time, but at least sometimes. It's what high picks are for. We're going on nearly a 10 year rebuild since Dwight was traded and were forced to purge the roster and start completely over directly because of our inability to draft a true franchise player.

They desperately need Suggs to work out, if he doesn't it's going to set us back another several years.

oladipo and isaac were good picks. the other 3 were bad, at least bamba is improving a bit lately. jury's still out on suggs/wagner.

agree on the whole point, though. We should have done better with 6 picks on the top 6 in an 8 year span. and that is without counting elfrid, who was a failure as well

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19 hours ago, Mauro Pedrosa said:

Elfrid Payton

Andrew Nicholson in 2012 as well, 19th overall. Not that a player selected there has massive expectations, but it's yet another 1st round pick that amounted to nothing.

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