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2021-2022 Orlando Magic Season Thread… Let’s Goo!!!

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7 hours ago, J-Mac said:

Bamba is so trash still to this day

He has improved this season but yes…too soft in the paint, zero post up game, too weak to finish under the rim, not enough energy and etc. 

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I don’t think any of us realized how raw Suggs was going to be, but to some level it makes sense. Last year in college was the first year in his life he was purely focused on basketball after doing the football/basketball thing equally in high school. 

I think we were all hoping he’d be more Dwayne Wade day 1 as a rookie, but he has more of the Victor Oladipo track with great athleticism and intangibles with a lack of offense and ball handling.

Sometimes I doubt our willingness to continue to draft players like this, I have little doubt he will take a big leap in year 2-3 in this category. It won’t be pretty this year but we can’t rush it with him. His jump, all things remaining constant, will push us into the playoffs next year with a healthy team in tact. 

 

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1 hour ago, Babir_9 said:

He has improved this season but yes…too soft in the paint, zero post up game, too weak to finish under the rim, not enough energy and etc. 

I think about last night how there were so many opportunities for him to close or get blocks and he didn’t look like he was even trying. 

he might do well in the NBA if he can get on a team that lights a fire under him with some superstar veterans (Lakers? Warriors?), but that unfortunately won’t be our team. 

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1 hour ago, TreyMachine said:

I don’t think any of us realized how raw Suggs was going to be, but to some level it makes sense. Last year in college was the first year in his life he was purely focused on basketball after doing the football/basketball thing equally in high school. 

I think we were all hoping he’d be more Dwayne Wade day 1 as a rookie, but he has more of the Victor Oladipo track with great athleticism and intangibles with a lack of offense and ball handling.

Sometimes I doubt our willingness to continue to draft players like this, I have little doubt he will take a big leap in year 2-3 in this category. It won’t be pretty this year but we can’t rush it with him. His jump, all things remaining constant, will push us into the playoffs next year with a healthy team in tact. 

 

We are all being very patient and optimistic about Suggs…but there are already plenty of red flags…

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44 minutes ago, Babir_9 said:

We are all being very patient and optimistic about Suggs…but there are already plenty of red flags…

I wouldn’t call them red flags until year 2 or 3 if he continues making the same mistakes and taking the same I’ll advised shots then we can start to panic a little. The guy hasn’t even played a full season or even had the chance to go into the offseason to really work on his game. I must admit I thought he would be more NBA ready but that doesn’t mean he still can’t turn into the leader/star we are looking for. We need to be patient with him and look at the bigger picture instead of focusing on the handful of games he’s played this year. Can’t write a guy off when he hasn’t even gotten his feet wet yet.

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8 hours ago, J-Mac said:

I haven’t done a lot of research on Chet but I do remember videos of him and Suggs working out together so they got history. But yeah I don’t understand the hype too, a seven footer who’s not even 200 pounds

He’s a Twig. 

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20 minutes ago, MagicFanDan said:

He’s a Twig. 

  Eh, i'm not a Chet fan but people said the same thing about Mobley. Of course Mobley was a bit beefier then Chet, but he was still close to a 200 pound 7 footer at the beginning of USC's season. I wouldn't worry about Suggs, he is on the perfect team to work through his shooting woes. I didn't watch the game, i was working. It seems pretty simple, we shot poorly from 3 and they didn't. Someone tell me how T-Ross led the team in scoring and didn't even attempt a 3 pointer.

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Paaaaiinn… this is what happens when you ask rookie point guards to come in and play a ton right off the bat. I’m still optimistic for Suggs’ future but there will be growing pains, and this chart shows that he has been as bad as he’s looked.

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I'm not worried about it. In fact i think it will only help him in the future. I'm like all the other people on this thread, more worried about his handles. It's the confidence and transition that is killing him at the moment. If he was all we had then yeah it might doom him. The pressure will be off once Fultz and McW get back and hopefully Cole remains healthy. Wait until the second half of the season folks.

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1 hour ago, All Eyes On Me said:

Paaaaiinn… this is what happens when you ask rookie point guards to come in and play a ton right off the bat. I’m still optimistic for Suggs’ future but there will be growing pains, and this chart shows that he has been as bad as he’s looked.

No, it's what happens when people do charts on ridiculously small sample sizes.

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One thing I will give Suggs is his court vision and passing ability. If we had better shooters he would easily lead rookies in assist. I see the Jason Kidd comp and like Suggs Kidds shot wasn’t really there in the beginning of his career 

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