King Close 63 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 I liked the trade at the time solely because we were finally picking a direction. I wouldn’t say they got fleeced but it definitely seems we got the better end of the deal. I do feel for Vuc though as it looks like Chicago decided to go a completely different direction this off season. A low usage center who is there purely to rebound/ defend would fit much better with how that team is currently constructed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJZFL 611 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 3 hours ago, King Close said: I liked the trade at the time solely because we were finally picking a direction. I wouldn’t say they got fleeced but it definitely seems we got the better end of the deal. I do feel for Vuc though as it looks like Chicago decided to go a completely different direction this off season. A low usage center who is there purely to rebound/ defend would fit much better with how that team is currently constructed. They are 7-3 so hard to feel too sorry for him 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
argentinaworldchampion 32 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 52 minutes ago, JJZFL said: They are 7-3 so hard to feel too sorry for him nonetheless, vuc is shooting 38% from the field and 25% from 3pt so, yes they are winning, but not precisely because of him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babir_9 90 Report post Posted November 9, 2021 4 hours ago, JJZFL said: They are 7-3 so hard to feel too sorry for him With Wendell their record would be 9-1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s1n1st3r12 27 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 I am sort of nervous when Fultz and JI come back, I know we have not been winning but man the games have been fun to watch. What is going to happen to Coles season unless he moves to the 2 and Suggs to the bench. Will the Mo and WCJ dream be over when JI returns and plays the 4? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TreyMachine 394 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, s1n1st3r12 said: I am sort of nervous when Fultz and JI come back, I know we have not been winning but man the games have been fun to watch. What is going to happen to Coles season unless he moves to the 2 and Suggs to the bench. Will the Mo and WCJ dream be over when JI returns and plays the 4? I think you can't bench Cole at this point without hurting his feelings and thoughts on being on the Magic long term. I would allow for continue to start while he's on this hot streak. If he starts to fall off towards his average, you then convince him to be a 6th man spark. I think at this point, our rotation is: Starting Guards: Cole / Fultz 4 Minutes - Period End: Jalen / Fultz 2nd Period Start - 7 minutes: Jalen / Cole 7 minutes - Period End: Cole / Fultz Something along those lines for our guard rotation. Maybe throw in Ross, but the core guard rotation will likely try to have one of Fultz / Cole at all times to handle the ball as Jalen tries to improve his handles, unless they want to take the Oladipo approach (which I wouldn't be opposed to - Suggs has vision as a former QB but lacks ball control presently, which should come with time). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MagicFanDan 121 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 9 minutes ago, TreyMachine said: I think you can't bench Cole at this point without hurting his feelings and thoughts on being on the Magic long term. I would allow for continue to start while he's on this hot streak. If he starts to fall off towards his average, you then convince him to be a 6th man spark. I think at this point, our rotation is: Starting Guards: Cole / Fultz 4 Minutes - Period End: Jalen / Fultz 2nd Period Start - 7 minutes: Jalen / Cole 7 minutes - Period End: Cole / Fultz Something along those lines for our guard rotation. Maybe throw in Ross, but the core guard rotation will likely try to have one of Fultz / Cole at all times to handle the ball as Jalen tries to improve his handles, unless they want to take the Oladipo approach (which I wouldn't be opposed to - Suggs has vision as a former QB but lacks ball control presently, which should come with time). Longterm I think we are looking at a core rotation of: 3 man guard rotation of Fultz, Suggs and Cole. 3 man forward rotation of Franz, JI and Chuma. (If Issac can’t get healthy use a future pick and/or FA on his replacement). Center Rotation of WCJ and this years draft pick (hopefully Duran). Yes that means, Bamba and Harris walk in free agency. I also think we trade Ross for 2 seconds before the deadline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJZFL 611 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Babir_9 said: With Wendell their record would be 9-1. We can speculate about that, but in reality they traded him because they weren’t winning with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
s1n1st3r12 27 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Eskobar said: I mean, what do you want? Winning or "fun" losses? You learn more from a loss than a win imo and I understand winning also brings that culture but I would rather the future guys learn this baby steps before leaps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJZFL 611 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 8 hours ago, s1n1st3r12 said: You learn more from a loss than a win imo and I understand winning also brings that culture but I would rather the future guys learn this baby steps before leaps I think we’ve seen that losing reinforces losing and that without drafting a superstar, which is very rare event, it’s a hard pattern to break out of. I hope we continue to win as many games as possible to help this team develop winning habits and a winning mentality. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Natesroom 197 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 I have a question that is specifically about sundays game - when cole drove to the rim and then got called for a technical (i think it was the 4th quarter) I was at the game and they didnt show a replay. Did he get fouled? It was tough to tell in person - from my seat i thought there was contact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
argentinaworldchampion 32 Report post Posted November 10, 2021 9 hours ago, Eskobar said: I disagree. We've lost more than almost any franchise for nearly a decade, the only thing we've learned from it is HENNIGAN can't draft worth a crap. fixed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites