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46 minutes ago, Justin Jaudon said:

I'm pretty sure OKC fans are no happier with those years than fans in Houston, Memphis, Boston, or any other perennial playoff team that didn't win it all over those years, except they didn't have to suffer tanking multiple seasons.

Between 06-07 and 2019-20 the Boston Celtics had 2 seasons with wins in the 20s. The Memphis Grizzlies had 4. The OKC Thunder had 2. 

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8 minutes ago, CTMagicUK said:

Between 06-07 and 2019-20 the Boston Celtics had 2 seasons with wins in the 20s. The Memphis Grizzlies had 4. The OKC Thunder had 2. 

Facts 

 

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20 minutes ago, gobucsmagic said:

Not sure what that means but surely you remember all the talk of us wanting to win ASAP for Devos. There’s no way we threw three seasons, which is what you’re implying. Actually you’re not implying it, you’re saying we chose to suck over choosing to be competitive. Sorry, but thats just not accurate 

Talk is talk. Our actions were of a team that was throwing away seasons. Trading JJ, trading Aaron Aflalo, not re-signing Anderson, those were tanking moves. We traded solid veterans for unproven young guys that were not too picks. That is not really up for debate. Again, are you new to this team?

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4 minutes ago, Justin Jaudon said:

Talk is talk. Our actions were of a team that was throwing away seasons. Trading JJ, trading Aaron Aflalo, not re-signing Anderson, those were tanking moves. We traded solid veterans for unproven young guys that were not too picks. That is not really up for debate. Again, are you new to this team?

If by new you mean 46 years old and life-long Magic fan. Family season ticket holders from inaugural season through 2005 and have probably missed 20 games since the franchises inception, then yeah...I’m new

For the record, trading AA for Fournier didn’t make us worse. Neither did trading JJ once we lost Dwight but great examples  

 

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2 minutes ago, gobucsmagic said:

If by new you mean 46 years old and life-long Magic fan. Family season ticket holders from inaugural season through 2005 and have probably missed 20 games since the franchises inception, then yeah...I’m new 

Cool. Not new, just either a bad memory or a selective one.

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3 minutes ago, Justin Jaudon said:

Had to go back all the way to 2006 for that? How many of those seasons are relevant to the conversation?

You’re going back ten years also and have been speaking “historically” throughout this conversation. What’s the difference?

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7 minutes ago, Justin Jaudon said:

Cool. Not new, just either a bad memory or a selective one.

Or I just don’t agree with you. That’s another option that apparently you didn’t consider. But you’re obviously that guy who prefers undermining individuals rather than accepting the possibility that you’re wrong 

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Failure of management, scouts and coaching equals a bad team and franchise. Period end of story. Call it whatever you want intentionally or not. At the end of the day it’s just bad. 

To not want the highest draft pick possible is just foolish. But you also need to be able to evaluate talent to get players that can create a winning team. Potential is fools gold and we’ve had a lot of fools picking players for this franchise. 

I am not sold on Weham to get it done. But as a Chicago Bears fan I never thought that their GM would get a draft right but was shocked this year when they did. So, there is hope. 

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20 minutes ago, gobucsmagic said:

Facts 

 

To elaborate, only Memphis among those teams tanked (had consecutive poor seasons). Their tanking resulted in Hasheem Thabeet, Rudy Gay and Mike Conley...not exactly a haul worth tanking for. They got good when they stopped tanking and got good veterans

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2 minutes ago, Justin Jaudon said:

To elaborate, only Memphis among those teams tanked (had consecutive poor seasons). Their tanking resulted in Hasheem Thabeet, Rudy Gay and Mike Conley...not exactly a haul worth tanking for. They got good when they stopped tanking and got good veterans

It not working out for them is irrelevant to us 

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13 minutes ago, Justin Jaudon said:

Had to go back all the way to 2006 for that? How many of those seasons are relevant to the conversation?

Well 2006 was the year before OKC 'tanked' so very. 

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