Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 43 minutes ago, Murphy13 said: Not really, it just means (again assuming Fultz plays at a reasonably high level) that he won't have to force things as much. His numbers might go down a little but he'll be more efficient at what he does do. He's our best and therefore most important player for now, arguing his level of importance is impotent. If he's as good as his contract dictates, he should understand that taking a step back so the team can step forward is a good thing that benefits him. I'm not entirely convinced because I think the less you do on the court the easier it is to replace you with a less talented but more specialized guy. But to your credit the main thing holding vucevic's efficiency back is his three point shooting. And he was a 39.9% three point shooter when left wide open last year and that dropped to 17% when just considered "open" (which is typically when they're not being defended but there's at least a guy running out to force him to think about attacking the closeout). So it's possible that if Fultz has gravity on his drives that dj/Evan don't currently have and that results in more wide open "pop" opportunities for vucevic his efficiency would improve. But we do get back to the "if vucevic's role is more of a pop guy and a dumpoff guy and less of a facilitator, what sets him apart from Dedmon who is better at that stuff plus has rim protection?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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TrueMagicFan07 671 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 8:14 AM, IrishCelticHater said: 6 hours ago, The Neighborhood Bully said: https://orlandomagicdaily.com/2019/06/30/85463/ can't wait to see Fournier running point (not) On 7/1/2019 at 8:14 AM, IrishCelticHater said: Knee dribbles... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Eyes On Me 1,206 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 The Vucevic contract gets pretty depressing when you look at the deals other centers have received so far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicblue 315 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Is it possible we could see a Fournier/Bamba for CJ McCollum type of deal in the near future? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchise408 116 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 So first we talk about trading Fournier and Mozgov for Wiggins. Now we've moved on to trading Vuc for D'Angelo Russell. For a group of fans that hates these players on our roster, y'all sure are over estimating their trade value. lol @ Vuc for D'Lo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 40 minutes ago, magicblue said: Is it possible we could see a Fournier/Bamba for CJ McCollum type of deal in the near future? No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 27 minutes ago, Franchise408 said: So first we talk about trading Fournier and Mozgov for Wiggins. Now we've moved on to trading Vuc for D'Angelo Russell. For a group of fans that hates these players on our roster, y'all sure are over estimating their trade value. lol @ Vuc for D'Lo Russell doesn't fit Golden State and there's only so many trade options for a good but not great point guard on a max deal when 21 or 22 teams already have their guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain 24 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Do we still have the rights to briscoe? I thought when he went down last year we waived him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchise408 116 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: Russell doesn't fit Golden State and there's only so many trade options for a good but not great point guard on a max deal when 21 or 22 teams already have their guy. I just think its funny that nobody here thinks Vuc or Fournier are pieces to a winning, contending team, but those same people seem to think they are pieces we can flip to easily acquire those said pieces, in deals that are entirely friendly and beneficial to our team. We have a "treadmill" team, but apparently are just sitting on all of these amazing deals that are just gonna instantly turn us into a contender. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 Just now, Captain said: Do we still have the rights to briscoe? I thought when he went down last year we waived him We have his non-bird rights because he played for us for a year. So technically we can sign him and give him a 20% raise on his last contract. And we can go over the salary cap to do this. Waiving a player has nothing to do with having rights. We still have the rights to afflalo He's not contractually tied to the team right now and there's no restrictions on his free agency. So if any team wants to sign him they can. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicfan1987 266 Report post Posted July 1, 2019 7 hours ago, Magicman28 said: Apply that to if Fultz never gets right and DJ gets injured. Well yeah we need 6 guards too lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites