magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted December 30, 2018 14 hours ago, ?4thewin said: Said this on Twitter the other day but every so often I look at Wiggins stats from year 2 and 3 and see a player with top end scoring upside, not terrible shooting, and ability to get free throws regularly. He's tall and long for a shooting guard. He might be a really good buy low candidate that we can develop. Then I see the contract again. It completely wipes out your cap room through 2023. You have no alternative to him for 5 seasons. How could you ever take that risk? I atill think he can make us better. He is still 23. Will be great to pair him with Gordon, Isaac and Bamba. I dont mind the salary as much as you guys since is a guy We will keep for the long run. And since Jones is attached in the deal there is no need to overpay on another PG. we did it once with Rashard who really help us get to next level. Wiggins might be really good playing in the East. jones, Wiggins, AG, Isaac and Bamba will be a great young core and starting lineup material to grow together for years to come. We need stability and this will help us achieve that. I dont mind be commited for the next 5 years with those 5 guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted December 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, magicdoc1 said: I atill think he can make us better. He is still 23. Will be great to pair him with Gordon, Isaac and Bamba. I dont mind the salary as much as you guys since is a guy We will keep for the long run. And since Jones is attached in the deal there is no need to overpay on another PG. we did it once with Rashard who really help us get to next level. Wiggins might be really good playing in the East. jones, Wiggins, AG, Isaac and Bamba will be a great young core and starting lineup material to grow together for years to come. We need stability and this will help us achieve that. I dont mind be commited for the next 5 years with those 5 guys. Wiggins is getting paid an absurd amount of money to be meh. Doesn’t seem to have much up stairs either. No thanks. Rather go after Monk if we want a Uber athletic guard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted December 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Magicman28 said: Wiggins is getting paid an absurd amount of money to be meh. Doesn’t seem to have much up stairs either. No thanks. Rather go after Monk if we want a Uber athletic guard. I think the issue is that a lot of us have extremely high expectations on the free market. You well said that no high level free agent will come here unless we have a decent roster. Monk will not do that. Wiggins will neither but he is a enought decent talent to take us to the playoff year after year. That is all we want for the next 5 years. Be able to compete Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted December 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, magicdoc1 said: I think the issue is that a lot of us have extremely high expectations on the free market. You well said that no high level free agent will come here unless we have a decent roster. Monk will not do that. Wiggins will neither but he is a enought decent talent to take us to the playoff year after year. That is all we want for the next 5 years. Be able to compete What’s Wiggins done for Minnesota? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted December 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, magicdoc1 said: I think the issue is that a lot of us have extremely high expectations on the free market. You well said that no high level free agent will come here unless we have a decent roster. Monk will not do that. Wiggins will neither but he is a enought decent talent to take us to the playoff year after year. That is all we want for the next 5 years. Be able to compete No. See the problem is you have to anticipate a certain percentage of failure and have a plan B. Wiggins contract doesn't allow for that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Eyes On Me 1,205 Report post Posted December 30, 2018 I was extremely intrigued by Wiggins until he signed that absurdity of a contract and got worse when he did. He’s also extremely passive, and we need an alpha dog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Better DJ & Photographer 456 Report post Posted December 30, 2018 2 hours ago, ?4thewin said: No. See the problem is you have to anticipate a certain percentage of failure and have a plan B. Wiggins contract doesn't allow for that. Wiggins might be fun to have but that contract is absolutely cost prohibitive. He should be on a Fournier type contract. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matthi32 4 Report post Posted December 30, 2018 Would you trade Fournier and Augustin for Rubio and Sefolosha? I would hate to lose Augustine but I think Rubio could be a nice player in Orlando. If he didn‘t match with BIG, we at least get some capspace. Maybe we could include Dallas in the trade. Then Rubio should go to Dallas and DSJ (with fillers) to us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Eyes On Me 1,205 Report post Posted December 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, matthi32 said: Would you trade Fournier and Augustin for Rubio and Sefolosha? I would hate to lose Augustine but I think Rubio could be a nice player in Orlando. If he didn‘t match with BIG, we at least get some capspace. Maybe we could include Dallas in the trade. Then Rubio should go to Dallas and DSJ (with fillers) to us. Nah, trading DJ doesn’t solve our problems. We need to get another point guard while keeping DJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted January 2, 2019 Bleachreport had us involved in a deal between Dallas and Wizards discussing a deal centralized in Beal and Howard for DSJ and matthew with Us as a 3rd party giving away Isaac and second rounder for DSJ and Dekker. Not sure I like it but is out there. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2813275-realistic-trades-that-would-blow-up-2019-nba-free-agency#slide3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNameIsOrlando 310 Report post Posted January 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: This eases my frustrations with management a bit but I still would like them to make this move sooner than later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites