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39 minutes ago, TheNameIsOrlando said:

No because we have nearly 80 games of evidence this year along with years on end of his capabilities. Why would a 5 game series change anything? What if he defends well 3 games but doesn't 2 games? What if he defends well all 5 games but his offense falls off a cliff? It means nothing.

I'm really having a hard time grasping your thought process here. 

Because we've had a 24 game sample now where we've been the best defensive team in the league and a 75 game sample where we're just a shade outside of a top 5 defense. 

So it's tough to argue you can't build a good defense around vucevic when we already have. 

The playoffs are played differently than the regular season. People argue if you can play gobert in the playoffs because Houston just got him to switch on to harden constantly and harden just ate him alive. The defensive player of the year couldn't defend well enough to be useful in that series. 

So it seems counterintuitive but it does matter because games are played differently. Most of the season we've just played our brand of basketball no matter the opponent. The playoffs we'll prepare more specifically for the team we're facing. 

And the defend well 3 games defend poorly 2 thing can't really happen. Either he's capable or he's not. Vucevic defending on the perimeter will either create a systemic breakdown of our defense or it won't. And it will be obvious. 

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2 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

Because we've had a 24 game sample now where we've been the best defensive team in the league and a 75 game sample where we're just a shade outside of a top 5 defense. 

So it's tough to argue you can't build a good defense around vucevic when we already have. 

The playoffs are played differently than the regular season. People argue if you can play gobert in the playoffs because Houston just got him to switch on to harden constantly and harden just ate him alive. The defensive player of the year couldn't defend well enough to be useful in that series. 

So it seems counterintuitive but it does matter because games are played differently. Most of the season we've just played our brand of basketball no matter the opponent. The playoffs we'll prepare more specifically for the team we're facing. 

And the defend well 3 games defend poorly 2 thing can't really happen. Either he's capable or he's not. Vucevic defending on the perimeter will either create a systemic breakdown of our defense or it won't. And it will be obvious. 

When we roll out the DJ, Ross, Evan, AG, Isaac lineup I'll probably RIP my shirt off

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Oh. BTW I spent a ton of time trying to figure out why we were so bad between December and February but amazing since February. 

There isn't some statistical aberration. There's not simultaneous slumps that were hidden by good early season production. 

All the data just matches the eye test. Grant was really bad and Isaac got a lot better so now our offense doesn't suck when Isaac plays with iwundu and the effect of that is we can play Fournier with the bench more so now we have more success across the board. 

We'll probably end up with 4-6 fewer wins than we should have

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1 minute ago, ?4thewin said:

Oh. BTW I spent a ton of time trying to figure out why we were so bad between December and February but amazing since February. 

There isn't some statistical aberration. There's not simultaneous slumps that were hidden by good early season production. 

All the data just matches the eye test. Grant was really bad and Isaac got a lot better so now our offense doesn't suck when Isaac plays with iwundu and the effect of that is we can play Fournier with the bench more so now we have more success across the board. 

We'll probably end up with 4-6 fewer wins than we should have

Hurray for development! Isaac plays his role so well even if his role doesnt expand by much I'm still super satisfied with the pick. 

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26 minutes ago, All Eyes On Me said:

Guys... we’re gonna be tied for 6th in about 5 hours. Let’s all remember who’s been here. The bandwagon is starting to fill up again!!

That’s fantastic that that’s even possible when we’re almost in April. Is it to soon to bring back the “going to the ship” song? No, never to soon! 

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3 hours ago, ?4thewin said:

Because we've had a 24 game sample now where we've been the best defensive team in the league and a 75 game sample where we're just a shade outside of a top 5 defense. 

So it's tough to argue you can't build a good defense around vucevic when we already have. 

The playoffs are played differently than the regular season. People argue if you can play gobert in the playoffs because Houston just got him to switch on to harden constantly and harden just ate him alive. The defensive player of the year couldn't defend well enough to be useful in that series. 

So it seems counterintuitive but it does matter because games are played differently. Most of the season we've just played our brand of basketball no matter the opponent. The playoffs we'll prepare more specifically for the team we're facing. 

And the defend well 3 games defend poorly 2 thing can't really happen. Either he's capable or he's not. Vucevic defending on the perimeter will either create a systemic breakdown of our defense or it won't. And it will be obvious. 

While Vuch has improved that improvement is more effort than ability. Furthermore our defensive improvement comes largely from AG's and Isaac's ability to switch, close out, and help. Vuch is still a liability on the defensive end. What happens next year if AG or Isaac get injured and are out for a few weeks?

And of course you can build a defense around Vuch. You can build a team around any player. The question has never solely been "can you build a team around Vuch and his pissy defense?" it has been "does Vuch's inefficient offense outweigh his pissy defense?" What has changed? Are we banking on a career offensive year translating over his next contract? Is Vuch and that contract at a greater value than spreading that money around? 

Lastly Vuch has had several instances this season where he has been checked out on defense one game only to bounce back the next. That's essentially the definition of his career. He could absolutely look great for 3 games only to look like **** the other 2. 

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15 minutes ago, alwaystragic said:

This was a very tough loss. 

Now we need to go 4-2 on the reamining games, not a lot of margin for error.

I think cheat will have 41 wins and pistons 42-43

We have to win all 3 of NY, ATL and CHA and just get 1 of IND, BOS, TOR. 

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