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3 minutes ago, Jason Funderburker said:

It is still kind of incomprehensible to me the turnaround made not just from last season but earlier this season.

i can’t believe we have a winning record

This is a special team

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2 minutes ago, Jason Funderburker said:

It is still kind of incomprehensible to me the turnaround made not just from last season but earlier this season.

i can’t believe we have a winning record

It is definitely a pleasant surprise. These guys deserve a lot of credit. They work their butts off, and Clifford has done a great job getting them all to row in the same direction hasn't he? Very happy with the way things are going. 

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15 hours ago, South_Aussie_Magic said:

and i'd love to know who you wanted to draft instead of gordon. And noone gets to say Jokic.

I said there were good players after him

Meaning, in a hypothetical scenario of a trade down for an established player, we could have ended up with lavine, Gary Harris, nurkic, bogdanovic, randle, capela and a starter, and it would not have been much different than what it is now

gordon was a regular pick, not one praise worthy

by far his only good move was the ross trade 

if gordon realizes his potential down the road, it might be a debate, but currently (as gordon is now) it was not fantastic value for a #4 pick 

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10 minutes ago, alwaystragic said:

I said there were good players after him

Meaning, in a hypothetical scenario of a trade down for an established player, we could have ended up with lavine, Gary Harris, nurkic, bogdanovic, randle, capela and a starter, and it would not have been much different than what it is now

gordon was a regular pick, not one praise worthy

by far his only good move was the ross trade 

if gordon realizes his potential down the road, it might be a debate, but currently (as gordon is now) it was not fantastic value for a #4 pick 

Gordon is better than most of the players you listed though. 

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On 4/11/2019 at 7:00 AM, jmmagicfan said:

So, Zach Lowe manages to both recognize TRoss for his value to us as a sixth man, and yet still dis him at the same time.

"Terrence Ross might be the tougher omission. He has been a crucial bench cog for Orlando -- its only reliable second-unit deep threat -- and part of its best five-man lineup. But 38 percent from 3-point range is not, like, incredible, and he's not good at anything else. A nice season, but he falls short here."

 

I think it's hard and unfair to judge a guy like T Ross strictly on his %. He comes in and takes some really tough attempts because he is our 2nd units offense. Would Lowe be more impressed if we had a creator in our 2nd unit and Ross's PPG dropped a touch but his 3p% went over 40 because he gets much better looks? (I have no doubt he is a 40%+ 3pt shooter in a lot of other offenses) 

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3 hours ago, Jason Funderburker said:

It is still kind of incomprehensible to me the turnaround made not just from last season but earlier this season.

i can’t believe we have a winning record

Right?!?! Some of us (me included) were disappointed in the possibility of making the playoffs with a sub .500 record and wondered if that constituted any real improvement. 

Really proud of our guys!

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3 hours ago, alwaystragic said:

I said there were good players after him

Meaning, in a hypothetical scenario of a trade down for an established player, we could have ended up with lavine, Gary Harris, nurkic, bogdanovic, randle, capela and a starter, and it would not have been much different than what it is now

gordon was a regular pick, not one praise worthy

by far his only good move was the ross trade 

if gordon realizes his potential down the road, it might be a debate, but currently (as gordon is now) it was not fantastic value for a #4 pick 

Sorry, but I'd rather have Gordon than any of them if I had to choose, though Capela is about the closest. If I recall, I'm pretty sure alot of people said both Capela and Gordon are a reach and both of them are clearcut the best positive impact players of the bunch. 

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind having a Gary Harris at shooting guard but not at the expense of Aaron. I don't dislike any of those guys, really. Just don't think Aaron should be overlooked because of his combination of work ethic, making the right plays on both ends most of the time, youth and athleticism. We have years ahead of him having an athletic advantage over a lot of guys and he's putting it together.

Althogether, given the hype... that draft was a little bit disappointing in retrospect.

And hey, I defended Hennigan for a long time, but you're right the Ross trade was the best get. A few other things looked like they'd pan out and they just flat out didn't. I think I defended Hennigan for as much as I did because he got a raw deal and then got played by the big boys... and you look at the front office turmoil everywhere and just ... who wants that for the team you're a fan of? The Suns are still on that stupid wheel and they've just hired Bower... who has done diddly squat everywhere he's been too.

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