Jay Magic 1,233 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, ?4thewin said: There's several better options. You're just not considering the consequences Who are the better options. Literally just asking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Jay Magic said: Who are the better options. Literally just asking Rozier, Eric bledsoe, dinwiddie. Not a comprehensive list. There's a decent chance wall would be better than those guys but not 100+million better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,031 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 Trade for Fultz, sign one of the solid PGs next season (Rozier, Dinwiddie, Tyus, etc) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Franchero MVP 391 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mauro Pedrosa said: Trade for Fultz, sign one of the solid PGs next season (Rozier, Dinwiddie, Tyus, etc) I think this is the best case scenario. We have the ability to take our time and fix Fultz but not be completely reliant on him this season. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Magicman28 said: Again, nothing that tips the scales. And possibility is an different way of saying speculation. sure. just like the specalutation/possibility that Wall will work as our PG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 32 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: Rozier, Eric bledsoe, dinwiddie. Not a comprehensive list. There's a decent chance wall would be better than those guys but not 100+million better I will add Teague to that list. Rose and Evans are also short term options(1-2 years). Rose has been outstanding this year. I think both, Teague and Rose will be available next year. Dinwiddie and/or Russell.. Either of those two are for sure better options. Like I said earlier. There are also players(other than wall) that are attainable via trade. Speculating, just like we are speculating with Wall, we can go after either Schroder, Lin or Fultz. Their contracts are friendlier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 Just now, magicdoc1 said: I will add Teague to that list. Rose and Evans are also short term options(1-2 years). Rose has been outstanding this year. I think both, Teague and Rose will be available next year. Dinwiddie and/or Russell.. Either of those two are for sure better options. Like I said earlier. There are also players(other than wall) that are attainable via trade. Speculating, just like we are speculating with Wall, we can go after either Schroder, Lin or Fultz. Their contracts are friendlier. Evans isn't an option he's not that good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 37 minutes ago, Mauro Pedrosa said: Trade for Fultz, sign one of the solid PGs next season (Rozier, Dinwiddie, Tyus, etc) This is surely the best case scenario. I will keep DJ as his back-up/mentor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: Evans isn't an option he's not that good He was fantastic last year at Memphis when Conley went down. He is not doing well in Indiana as SG. 19.4 PPG, 5.4 APG 5.2 RPG with40% from 3. Speaking of Conley, He will be a great option. The problem is Memphis,surprisingly, is playing great basketball this year.. Not sure if he is available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 1 minute ago, magicdoc1 said: He was fantastic last year at Memphis when Conley went down. He is not doing well in Indiana as SG. Speaking of Conley, He will be a great option. The problem is Memphis is playing great basketball surprisingly. Not sure if he is available. Was he playing fantastic? Or was he just putting up garbage time stats on a bad team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Neighborhood Bully 266 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 Quote Terry Rozier has reportedly been unhappy with his playing time, and may or may not have recently tweeted out a trade request. It wouldn’t be that far fetched, as this Celtics’ season has not gone according to plan, for either Terry or the Celtics. Heading into Wednesday night, Rozier was averaging 23.1 minutes (down from 25.9 last season) and shooting an abysmal 37.1 percent from the field. After ending last postseason as the Celtics third-leading scorer, he has finished in double figures in only six of 17 games and has crossed the 20 point threshold just once. Boston sits glumly at a game above .500. It’s not all bad, of course. With Rozier on the court, the Celtics are giving up just 94.7 points per 100 possessions, which is almost unfathomable given the offensive explosion happening throughout the league. For any of his faults, Rozier is still only 24 years old and seems to get better with more responsibility. He’s placed Boston in an uncertain position. Terry is a restricted free agent this year, and reading the tea leaves, it seems like someone will go four years, $60 million for Rozier at a minimum. If Boston re-signs Kyrie Irving to a max deal and matched an offer sheet on his backup, that would be nearly $50 million for the point guard position alone (and over $60 million if you count Marcus Smart). Overall, their payroll would balloon to over $140 million, assuming Al Horford opts in to his player option for 2019-20. The odds are that a move is coming. That could be a sign and trade this offseason, but if you’re Boston, moving the former Louisville Cardinal this season opens far more doors. At the same time, what incentive would any team have to give up a worthwhile asset for Rozier now when it can just slightly overpay for him this summer. If a team believes in his potential that much, why trade a promising young player or key rotation cog midseason when an extra $2 or $3 million will likely scare Boston off in July for the financial reasons discussed above? This puts Boston in an untenable position: trade a guy for less than he’s worth, or run a significant risk of losing him for nothing in July. Enter Philly. It’s almost too perfect. Markelle Fultz goes to a place where there is zero pressure, zero incentive to play and produce right now, and a perfect infrastructure to get him right. If it fails? Boston only sacrificed a guy they were probably going to wind up losing anyway. Could they get a safer, higher-floor asset in exchange for Rozier at the deadline? Almost certainly. Would that player have nearly the upside Fultz has, even with his recent difficulties? No chance. Few teams have the luxury of taking this risk. Whether Fultz has a 50 or 15 percent chance of working out, it’s a bet Boston almost has to make. The mere possibility that they could end up with Tatum, the 2019 Kings pick and even a partially actualized version of what Fultz was supposed to be should be enough to convince them. For Philly? Considering some of the trade ideas being tossed around, getting a guy who averaged 16, 5 and 5 as a starting point guard over 19 playoff games seems like a pretty good consolation prize. Elton Brand gets to save face and comes out looking like the hero. Everybody wins. Get on the phone Mr. Ainge. You’ve pulled off heists before. Make this thing happen. https://fansided.com/2018/11/23/markelle-fultz-trade-celtics-terry-rozier/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Eyes On Me 1,196 Report post Posted November 24, 2018 The scary part about Wall is it’s a toss up if it’ll work or not, and if it doesn’t you’re stuck with him destroying all your cap space for the next 4 years. We need to aim for a PG this year that can get Grant out of the rotation without killing any future flexibility Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
