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18 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

Nah. Grant isn't an elite defender. None of the defensive metrics support that. 

The expectations for Grant should be a pretty solid backup. Nothing more. 

None? Is this a useless metric?

Contesting shots when coming over screens is another one of Grant’s defensive fortes. In fact, opponents shot just 22.7 percent from the field (44 attempts) with Grant as the closest defender in these situations – that ranked No. 1 in the entire league (at least 40 shot attempts).

https://www.nba.com/magic/news/film-room-jerian-grants-defensive-abilities-20180712

 

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Justin Jaudon    158
22 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

Nah. Grant isn't an elite defender. None of the defensive metrics support that. 

The expectations for Grant should be a pretty solid backup. Nothing more. 

Grant is absolutely elite at defending the PnR, which is the most important thing for a PG these days, defensively; and he's strong enough on the switch not to get blown up by bigger guys. He is elite at a lot of the small things that don't show up on the stat sheets. He's an average rebounder, only slightly above average with steals, so metrics don't like him as much. But as an on-ball defender, something metrics have a hard time showing, yes, he is elite.

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38 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

Nah. Grant isn't an elite defender. None of the defensive metrics support that. 

The expectations for Grant should be a pretty solid backup. Nothing more. 

Can we have a guy exceed their expectations? That would be nice mr moneyball. 

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Justin Jaudon    158
6 minutes ago, fan for too long 2 said:

Can we have a guy exceed their expectations? That would be nice mr moneyball. 

I don't have a problem with?4thewin's comments. He's not getting excited over a guy who has yet to win a starting job in the NBA. I get it. I'm just saying I think it might be Jerian4thewin by the end of the season. He's not going to be an All-Star, but I think he can be a PG version of his uncle Horace: a does all the little things that help you win guy who fans love.

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?4thewin    1,753
18 minutes ago, fan for too long 2 said:

Can we have a guy exceed their expectations? That would be nice mr moneyball. 

I mean if he exceeds expectations he exceeds expectations. 

I just don't want fans saying he sucks because he's not able to lock down Curry and has some games where he hurts us. 

Sometimes just solid is ok. 

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~O~    480
7 minutes ago, Mauro Pedrosa said:

The Bulls are a young rebuilding team and they didn't bat an eye when they lost Grant so that tells you something

 

14 minutes ago, ?4thewin said:

I mean if he exceeds expectations he exceeds expectations. 

I just don't want fans saying he sucks because he's not able to lock down Curry and has some games where he hurts us. 

Sometimes just solid is ok. 

 

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Justin Jaudon    158
13 minutes ago, Mauro Pedrosa said:

The Bulls are a young rebuilding team and they didn't bat an eye when they lost Grant so that tells you something

Because they have a younger version of him in Dunn. They're basically the same player, just Dunn is a year younger. Grant was redundant talent for them.

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18 minutes ago, Mauro Pedrosa said:

The Bulls are a young rebuilding team and they didn't bat an eye when they lost Grant so that tells you something

Their loss is our gain.

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magicdoc1    165
6 hours ago, Catalina Maria said:

I miss Oladipo, What a great individual. Great character despite all he went through while playing during Hennigans tenure with the Magic. I am glad Grant is coming here with that Attitude and desire to prove himself. I am now on board with him and will be extactic if he can give us enough to solidify the PG position. 

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Magicfan1987    213
6 hours ago, magicdoc1 said:

Dunn/Lavine/Parker/markeanan/carter lineup looks pretty interesting. 

Parker at small forward is worse than AG at small forward 

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Magicfan1987    213

Im actually really excited for Grant. This is his year to prove something and he should have a good shot to do so in Orlando.

Most improved player here we come!

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