2018 Watch the Playoffs thread

[Jason Funderburker 111]

Just now, HeHateMe said:

If it comes down to finals record than how is 3-6 better than 6-0? 

 

That was kind of the whole point of the original post? LeBron has gone up against greater foes than MJ, with teams that were for the most part worse than Jordan’s teams.

 

My issue here is that everyone looks back on Jordan’s era with these rose-tinted glasses as if it was the pinnacle of all basketball. Anything counter to that is total blasphemy and not even to be entertained. Prior to this year, I felt the sam way; The turning point for me was the LeBron shot vs Toronto that caused me to reevaluate. That and a bunch of long twitter threads which showed me all the slow white guys tasked with defending MJ in his playoff runs, and all of his ‘signature moments’ which are replicated every other day in the NBA today

[HeHateMe 697]

Just now, Jason Funderburker said:

That was kind of the whole point of the original post? LeBron has gone up against greater foes than MJ, with teams that were for the most part worse than Jordan’s teams.

 

My issue here is that everyone looks back on Jordan’s era with these rose-tinted glasses as if it was the pinnacle of all basketball. Anything counter to that is total blasphemy and not even to be entertained. Prior to this year, I felt the sam way; The turning point for me was the LeBron shot vs Toronto that caused me to reevaluate. That and a bunch of long twitter threads which showed me all the slow white guys tasked with defending MJ in his playoff runs, and all of his ‘signature moments’ which are replicated every other day in the NBA today

Lebron hasn’t gone up against greater foes than Mj though. That’s not correct. Obviously this warriors team is great but Lebron still clearly left 2 finals on the table with the heat. The Mavericks were a great foe? 

[All Eyes On Me 1,205]

5 minutes ago, HeHateMe said:

Lebron hasn’t gone up against greater foes than Mj though. That’s not correct. Obviously this warriors team is great but Lebron still clearly left 2 finals on the table with the heat. The Mavericks were a great foe? 

Yeah, he’s 3-6 in the Finals, you could argue he’s 2 plays away from being 1-8 in the Finals and honestly at worst, he probably should be 5-4 in the Finals. 

[~O~ 565]

Jordan is the greatest basketball player ever because of his accomplishments in a short period of time.  6 championships, 2 "3 peats".  5 MVP's + 6 FMVP.  Not to mention he was the best defensive guard ever winning DPOY, 3 time leader in steals, and 9 defensive team selections.   Jordan three peated in and out of his prime.  The first three titles were won at the age of 27-30 while the next three were won 32-35.  

No one ever mentions his NCAA championship which is even harder to win then a NBA title in my opinion. Jordan has various college awards:  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_career_achievements_by_Michael_Jordan#University_of_North_Carolina_Tar_Heels_records

NCAA National Championship – University of North Carolina: 1981–82

College[edit]

3× Atlantic Coast Conference regular season champions: 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84 (undefeated)

1982 ACC Tournament champions

ACC Rookie of the Year: 1982

Naismith College Player of the Year: 1984

John R. Wooden Award: 1984

Adolph Rupp Trophy: 1984

USBWA College Player of the Year: 1984

AP College Basketball Player of the Year: 1984

ACC Athlete of the Year: 1984

ACC Men's Basketball Player of the Year: 1984

All-ACC First Team: 1983, 1984

All-ACC Tournament First Team: 1982

All-ACC Tournament Second Team: 1983, 1984

2× The Sporting News College Player of the Year: 1983, 1984

2× Consensus First Team All-American: 1983, 1984

All-NCAA Tournament Team: 1982

NCAA Tournament East Regional Team: 1983

 

 

Awards and accomplishments[edit]

NBA achievements[edit]

Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame Class of 2009

6× NBA champion: 1991–93, 1996–98

5× NBA Most Valuable Player: 1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998[1][2]

6× NBA Finals MVP: 1991–93, 1996–98[3]

NBA Defensive Player of the Year: 1987–88[4]

10× scoring champion: 1987–93, 1996–98[5]

3× steals leader: 1988, 1990, 1993

3× minutes leader: 1987–89

14× NBA All-Star: 1985–93, 1996–98, 2002–03[6]

3× NBA All-Star Game MVP: 1988, 1996, 1998[7]

2× IBM Award winner: 1985, 1989

11× All-NBA selection:

First Team: 1987–93, 1996–98[8][9]

Second Team: 1985[8][9]

9× All-Defensive selection:

First Team: 1988–93, 1996–98[10][11]

NBA All-Rookie selection:

First Team: 1985[12][13]

NBA Rookie of the Year: 1985[14]

2× NBA Slam Dunk Contest champion: 1987, 1988[15]

Runner-up in 1985

7× The Sporting News Most Valuable Player: 1987–88, 1988–89, 1990–91, 1991–92, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1997–98

The Sporting News Rookie of the Year: 1985

Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year: 1991

Ranked #1 by SLAM Magazine's Top 50 Players of All-time[16]

Ranked #1 by ESPN SportsCentury's Top North American Athletes of the 20th Century[17]

Selected in 1996 as one of the "50 Greatest Players in NBA History"

Selected in 1996 as member of two of the "Top 10 Teams in NBA History"

1991–92 Chicago Bulls (67–15; .817)

1995–96 Chicago Bulls (72–10; .878)

25 NBA Player of the Week [18] 16 NBA Player of the Month[19

 

 

Michael Jordan is decorated in trophies.  

[~O~ 565]

1 hour ago, All Eyes On Me said:

Yeah, he’s 3-6 in the Finals, you could argue he’s 2 plays away from being 1-8 in the Finals and honestly at worst, he probably should be 5-4 in the Finals. 

What people fail to mention is that the two last teams he beat came back to the finals to destroy him.  Spurs and Warriors.  Now, its even worse since the Warriors came back twice to destroy him. That 2016 fluke title will never happen again in finals history.  

This is just a testament to my disappointment in the Eastern Conference which I've exasperated to point where everyone should be telling me to shut the ***** up about it. 

 

Hey! You know its true!  You know this conference is ****!  lol  

[Magicfan1987 266]

3 hours ago, HeHateMe said:

Lebron hasn’t gone up against greater foes than Mj though. That’s not correct. Obviously this warriors team is great but Lebron still clearly left 2 finals on the table with the heat. The Mavericks were a great foe? 

the thunder spurs and warriors were all better teams than the ones mj beat in the finals

[Fultz4thewin 2,464]

1 minute ago, Magicfan1987 said:

the thunder spurs and warriors were all better teams than the ones mj beat in the finals

Why do we have to limit it by the finals?

[Magicfan1987 266]

2 hours ago, ~O~ said:

10× scoring champion: 1987–93, 1996–98[5]

I've always kind of put this up there with his 6 finals trophies, that's such pure dominance

[Magicfan1987 266]

1 minute ago, ?4thewin said:

Why do we have to limit it by the finals?

why do we have to limit it to sports?

[Magicfan1987 266]

name a drink better than Sprite that MJ has repped?

[Magicfan1987 266]

13 hours ago, Jason Funderburker said:

This is admittedly 100% hyperbole, and I’m not sure I actually believe it, but:

if Jordan played today I think he is viewed more a Russell Westbrook-level player than someone near LeBron, or even near Durant

truth

[fan for too long 2 531]

12 minutes ago, Magicfan1987 said:

truth

Lies