Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, DirtDan2012 said: You have to remember that both Bagley and Carter came from a program that doesn't stress defense. I think both will translate just fine to the NBA. What are you talking about? Duke was top 10 in adjusted defense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtDan2012 201 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: What are you talking about? Duke was top 10 in adjusted defense Didn't realize that. It just seemed like they struggled at times on D. Maybe it was also a partial result of pace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 527 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 It was mainly zone so what exactly says yeah their defense will be good in the nba? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justin Jaudon 221 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS said: Vuc with just good D would have made us all happy just like a center that can get 15/10 and play good D will make us all happy :D Vuc with good D would be a borderline All-Star. The guy has proven he can score 17-18 per on pretty solid efficiency and pass very well for a big. The problem is he's not quite a good enough scorer to make up for being one of the worst defensive bigs in the league (total inability to defend PnR). So he's a negative overall. Plus he plays the most important defensive position, which makes his poor defense even more of a problem. If he were a guard, with the same offensive positives and defensive negatives he would basically be Fournier, a guy you can get away with starting by hiding him on D. But you can't hide a bad defensive 5 in the modern NBA; so Vuc, thus, should not be a starter in the league. Give him just good defense, and it changes all the math on him. Instead of being a good offensive player and terrible defender, he's then a guy who gives you a bit of everything. A good defensive Vuc is basically Horford, but probably a better rebounder. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mack1085 57 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 Talking ourselves into a guy who most mocks rank as the 5th best big at pick 6....I’d rather trade back and get value than take Carter at 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
magicdoc1 261 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 44 minutes ago, Mack1085 said: Talking ourselves into a guy who most mocks rank as the 5th best big at pick 6....I’d rather trade back and get value than take Carter at 6. Carter will surprise a lot of people. He will be a really good assest to any team in need of a good hybrid center. He is top 8 talent for sure. I see him as the 4th best center behind Ayton, JJJ and Bamba. He is better than Bagley in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Mac 80 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 Carter might be an Aldridge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeHateMe 697 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 Carter would be a great pick. Solid all around. We need someone like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtDan2012 201 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 5 minutes ago, HeHateMe said: Carter would be a great pick. Solid all around. We need someone like that. I wouldn't be disappointed. No real holes in his game to pick apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 6 hours ago, HeHateMe said: Carter would be a great pick. Solid all around. We need someone like that. Eh. He's never going to be a bad pick. Getting a starting caliber player at 6 is a good thing. But he wouldn't be a great pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mack1085 57 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: Eh. He's never going to be a bad pick. Getting a starting caliber player at 6 is a good thing. But he wouldn't be a great pick That’s why I’d rather trade back than take him at 6. I think we can find a starting caliber player further back in the lottery and get additional value on top of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HeHateMe 697 Report post Posted June 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ?4thewin said: Eh. He's never going to be a bad pick. Getting a starting caliber player at 6 is a good thing. But he wouldn't be a great pick Whose the great pick at 6 then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites