A Better DJ & Photographer 456 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Magicfan1987 said: Lakers passed hornets giving us the 40th, let's best them tomorrow night to ensure a higher 2nd rounder! I'd rather work on the high 1st rounder and a higher 2nd rounder of our own! We don't want to win our way out of the 4th worst! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Better DJ & Photographer 456 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 If we get like the 7th pick and all the guys we are high on are gone would you guys trade with the clips for 12 &13? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Originalticketholder 133 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS said: I am very high on JJJ too! If we could grab him, get rid of Vuc or bring him off the bench, pick up a good PG, and shore up our rotations I would be a very happy Magic fan. Doncic, JJJ, and Ayton train rolled out of our station when we beat the Knicks and starterless Mavs (that is how you tank with the Philly method). Only way we have a chance at the aforementioned 3 players is if the ping pong ball luckily bounces our way. Otherwise they are gone when we pick at 5 or 6 or 7 or 8 (if ping pong ball bounces against us). Forgot 4 Dallas will get 4 above us because we will win one more! Bamba starting to get attention and gain momentum on this site. Other teams see the same thing. Wouldn't that be ironic if Dallas takes him at 4 after the above 3 are taken first So then we have Young, Bagley, and Porter all who have been exposed for some of their weaknesses by many on this site. I would be OK with any of those three with Young, Bagley, and Porter in that order. We will probably get what we deserve by not knowing how to tank! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Originalticketholder 133 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 9 hours ago, ?4thewin said: Compare Tim Duncan's senior year stats at Wake Forest to Micheal Beasleys freshman stats at Kansas State. This is not to say Beasley will be Duncan but it does deserve consideration and evaluation. The leading college scorer in a pretty good conference speaks volumes about his offensive potential. The difference between a 36% three point shooter and a 39% three point shooter is gigantic. A 36% three point shooting curry in the pros turns him from a MVP to Eric Gordon A little sarcasm you think! I get it that you do not like Trae Young. What makes life extremely difficult for NBA folks is "one and done". It is hard to compare stats and draw any significant conclusions. So there is some guessing involved. Just based on the below stats in which Curry's are slightly better and we do not know what Young would do if he stayed in school, you have to do your best in evaluation. Duncan was 2 inches taller than Beasley and that is as huge as a 2.6% difference in 3 pt shooting. Tit for tat!!!! If we draft at 5 or worse I would bring in Young based on his performance (not many college players average >30 points per game in 40 minute projections and he did this with the same number of shots as Curry). He is worth a look. May not work out but I sure would not just dismiss it totally! Per 40 Minutes Stephen Curry · Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2006-07 Davidson Southern 34 33 1049 9.2 19.9 .463 4.6 8.5 .536 4.7 11.4 .408 4.7 5.5 .855 6.0 3.6 2.4 0.2 3.6 3.3 27.8 2007-08 Davidson Southern 36 36 1193 10.6 22.0 .483 5.2 9.6 .540 5.4 12.4 .439 4.5 5.1 .894 5.5 3.5 2.4 0.5 3.1 2.8 31.2 2008-09 Davidson Southern 34 34 1145 10.9 24.0 .454 6.4 12.3 .519 4.5 11.7 .387 7.7 8.8 .876 5.3 6.6 3.0 0.3 4.4 2.8 34.0 Career Davidson Trae Young Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2017-18 Oklahoma Big 12 32 32 1133 9.2 21.8 .423 5.0 10.2 .493 4.2 11.5 .361 8.3 9.7 .861 4.4 9.8 1.9 0.3 5.9 2.0 30.9 Career Oklahoma 32 32 1133 9.2 21.8 .423 5.0 10.2 .493 4.2 11.5 .361 8.3 9.7 .861 4.4 9.8 1.9 0.3 5.9 2.0 30. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Better DJ & Photographer 456 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, Originalticketholder said: A little sarcasm you think! I get it that you do not like Trae Young. What makes life extremely difficult for NBA folks is "one and done". It is hard to compare stats and draw any significant conclusions. So there is some guessing involved. Just based on the below stats in which Curry's are slightly better and we do not know what Young would do if he stayed in school, you have to do your best in evaluation. Duncan was 2 inches taller than Beasley and that is as huge as a 2.6% difference in 3 pt shooting. Tit for tat!!!! If we draft at 5 or worse I would bring in Young based on his performance (not many college players average >30 points per game in 40 minute projections and he did this with the same number of shots as Curry). He is worth a look. May not work out but I sure would not just dismiss it totally! Per 40 Minutes Stephen Curry · Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2006-07 Davidson Southern 34 33 1049 9.2 19.9 .463 4.6 8.5 .536 4.7 11.4 .408 4.7 5.5 .855 6.0 3.6 2.4 0.2 3.6 3.3 27.8 2007-08 Davidson Southern 36 36 1193 10.6 22.0 .483 5.2 9.6 .540 5.4 12.4 .439 4.5 5.1 .894 5.5 3.5 2.4 0.5 3.1 2.8 31.2 2008-09 Davidson Southern 34 34 1145 10.9 24.0 .454 6.4 12.3 .519 4.5 11.7 .387 7.7 8.8 .876 5.3 6.6 3.0 0.3 4.4 2.8 34.0 Career Davidson Trae Young Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2017-18 Oklahoma Big 12 32 32 1133 9.2 21.8 .423 5.0 10.2 .493 4.2 11.5 .361 8.3 9.7 .861 4.4 9.8 1.9 0.3 5.9 2.0 30.9 Career Oklahoma 32 32 1133 9.2 21.8 .423 5.0 10.2 .493 4.2 11.5 .361 8.3 9.7 .861 4.4 9.8 1.9 0.3 5.9 2.0 30. Do me a favor and pull up the same numbers for Jimmer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Originalticketholder 133 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 35 minutes ago, ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS said: If we get like the 7th pick and all the guys we are high on are gone would you guys trade with the clips for 12 &13? Interesting dilemma. The first thing I would do is call the Celtics and see if they would trade their rights to the Kings #1 pick next year(The most important part) plus anything else thrown in. They would give us two high top 10 picks (very possibly 2 in the top 5) next year (because ours would be there too). That would delay our growth and the Celtics would probably not do it but it would give us a chance at two stars! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Originalticketholder 133 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS said: Do me a favor and pull up the same numbers for Jimmer. I assume you are not being facetious and wanted them pulled up. They are below. Biggest difference is assists. Trae has unique passing skills that Jimmer never possessed, AND compare their first years and it is not even close! Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS Career BYU 139 102 4119 8.1 17.9 .455 5.3 10.6 .497 2.9 7.3 .394 6.1 6.9 .882 3.6 5.0 1.6 0.1 3.4 1.7 25. 2007-08 BYU MWC 35 0 647 5.1 12.6 .407 2.5 4.7 .526 2.7 7.9 .336 2.2 2.5 .854 2.3 3.8 1.7 0.2 2.5 2.7 15.1 2008-09 BYU MWC 33 32 1090 6.8 14.1 .480 4.8 9.1 .534 1.9 5.0 .382 4.3 5.0 .847 3.6 5.0 1.8 0.1 3.1 1.6 19.7 2009-10 BYU MWC 34 33 1059 8.5 18.5 .458 5.6 11.9 .468 2.9 6.6 .440 8.5 9.5 .892 4.0 6.0 1.5 0.2 3.5 1.4 28.4 2010-11 BYU MWC 37 37 1323 10.5 23.1 .452 6.7 13.7 .491 3.7 9.5 .396 7.6 8.5 .894 3.8 4.8 1.5 0.0 4.0 1.5 32.3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicfan1987 266 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS said: Do me a favor and pull up the same numbers for Jimmer. most basketball minds have noted the Hummer comparison to be completely off base in just about every way imaginable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicfan1987 266 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Originalticketholder said: Interesting dilemma. The first thing I would do is call the Celtics and see if they would trade their rights to the Kings #1 pick next year(The most important part) plus anything else thrown in. They would give us two high top 10 picks (very possibly 2 in the top 5) next year (because ours would be there too). That would delay our growth and the Celtics would probably not do it but it would give us a chance at two stars! at 7 you can get.... Doncic no Ayton no Bagley no JJJ no Bamba no porter no Young yes Mikal yes I'm super high on both those guys so I'd have to keep the pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Better DJ & Photographer 456 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 36 minutes ago, Originalticketholder said: 52 minutes ago, Originalticketholder said: Per 40 Minutes Stephen Curry· Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2006-07 Davidson Southern 34 33 1049 9.2 19.9 .463 4.6 8.5 .536 4.7 11.4 .408 4.7 5.5 .855 6.0 3.6 2.4 0.2 3.6 3.3 27.8 2007-08 Davidson Southern 36 36 1193 10.6 22.0 .483 5.2 9.6 .540 5.4 12.4 .439 4.5 5.1 .894 5.5 3.5 2.4 0.5 3.1 2.8 31.2 2008-09 Davidson Southern 34 34 1145 10.9 24.0 .454 6.4 12.3 .519 4.5 11.7 .387 7.7 8.8 .876 5.3 6.6 3.0 0.3 4.4 2.8 34.0 Career Davidson Trae Young Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS 2017-18 Oklahoma Big 12 32 32 1133 9.2 21.8 .423 5.0 10.2 .493 4.2 11.5 .361 8.3 9.7 .861 4.4 9.8 1.9 0.3 5.9 2.0 30.9 Career Oklahoma 32 32 1133 9.2 21.8 .423 5.0 10.2 .493 4.2 11.5 .361 8.3 9.7 .861 4.4 9.8 1.9 0.3 5.9 2.0 30. I assume you are not being facetious and wanted them pulled up. They are below. Biggest difference is assists. Trae has unique passing skills that Jimmer never possessed, AND compare their first years and it is not even close! Jimmer Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS Career BYU 139 102 4119 8.1 17.9 .455 5.3 10.6 .497 2.9 7.3 .394 6.1 6.9 .882 3.6 5.0 1.6 0.1 3.4 1.7 25. 2007-08 BYU MWC 35 0 647 5.1 12.6 .407 2.5 4.7 .526 2.7 7.9 .336 2.2 2.5 .854 2.3 3.8 1.7 0.2 2.5 2.7 15.1 2008-09 BYU MWC 33 32 1090 6.8 14.1 .480 4.8 9.1 .534 1.9 5.0 .382 4.3 5.0 .847 3.6 5.0 1.8 0.1 3.1 1.6 19.7 2009-10 BYU MWC 34 33 1059 8.5 18.5 .458 5.6 11.9 .468 2.9 6.6 .440 8.5 9.5 .892 4.0 6.0 1.5 0.2 3.5 1.4 28.4 2010-11 BYU MWC 37 37 1323 10.5 23.1 .452 6.7 13.7 .491 3.7 9.5 .396 7.6 8.5 .894 3.8 4.8 1.5 0.0 4.0 1.5 32.3 44 minutes ago, ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS said: Thank you. No I wasn't being facetious, I wanted to see the 3 of them together. This totally supports my theory that Young could be Curry, or he could be Jimmer. I'm hoping he is in between but closer to Curry. We very well could be in a position to draft him without reaching :D I would take a chance with him over anybody but Ayton, Doncic, JJJ, or Bamba. On the other hand there are a LOT of PGs in this draft and if we take a big with our 1st pick there will still be plenty of PGs left in the 2nd round and I'd take 2 of them and see who steps up. Graham and Carter would not be a bad haul along with a big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Justin Jaudon 221 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Originalticketholder said: We will probably get what we deserve by not knowing how to tank! Again, short of murdering the players, I'm not sure what more the team could do to tank. I suppose they could find the alien basketball thing from Space Jam... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A Better DJ & Photographer 456 Report post Posted April 6, 2018 It's all about fun so with just a few games to go here is my prediction: 1. Phoenix 20 wins but MUST lose to Dallas to protect the worst record which also breaks our tie with Dallas. 2. Memphis 21 should not win another game and are hoping somehow Dallas out-tanks the Suns for a worst record tie. Need to lose to Sacramento in case Phoenix beats Dallas. 3. Atlanta 22 probably will not win another game but could win 1 without losing the 3nd worst record. They play no lottery teams. Successfully out-tanked us and has a lock on 3rd worst. 4. Magic 24 shouldn't win another game and if we don't we lock up 4th worst record providing Dallas can't out-tank Phoenix. If we win 1 we tie Dallas for 4th and if we win 2 we jump Dallas and tie Sacramento for 5th. If we follow our tradition of winning meaningless games at the end of the season and take 3 we jump both Dallas and Sacramento and have a 3 way tie with NY and Chicago which could end up picking as bad as 8th. 5. Dallas 25 unless somehow they figure out a way to let Phoenix beat them. Phoenix has worst record locked up if they don't win another game. Expect a football score! 6. Sacramento 26 should beat Memphis 7. Chicago 27 should tank both games against Brooklyn to get a better pick and keep the Cavs farther out 7. New York 27 probably won't win another game 8. Brooklyn 28 should beat Chicago twice if the Bulls tank correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
