Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, Magicman28 said: All this talk about athleticism and two of the most athletic PG'S are at home watching the playoffs. I like Trae because he has specific skills. His skills aren't good enough. To overcome his deficiencies. This is survivorship bias. Shot 43% from 3 over a really nice 11 game streak. Shot 32% the other 21 games Shot 36% over recorded high school competition Shot 24% in fiba. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicman28 295 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: His skills aren't good enough. To overcome his deficiencies. This is survivorship bias. Shot 43% from 3 over a really nice 11 game streak. Shot 32% the other 21 games Shot 36% over recorded high school competition Shot 24% in fiba. Eh. Your over analyzing and leaving out context. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 531 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ?4thewin said: Yeah. That's my whole premise. If Bamba isn't a game altering defensive player he could still be DeAndre Jordan or Tyson Chandler or jusif nurkic. The hypothetical no future injury impact version of Porter could be offense only Paul George or khris Middleton or Barnes or Harris or gallinari Wendell Carter is pretty much guaranteed to be a dependable starter but lacks much more upside in my opinion. Bagley I don't like but there's at least the argument that his mind could catch up to his body and you could teach him how to utilize his talent on defense. At 8 or 9 you start to reach "it's ok if this guy is just a rotation player with some upside" territory. Philly would/should be thrilled with Trae. So trae is a horrible pick at 6. But a thrilling pick at 8. Got it. Rolls eyes!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Magicman28 said: Eh. Your over analyzing and leaving out context. You're underanalyzing and failing to project him to the NBA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 531 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, ?4thewin said: You're underanalyzing and failing to project him to the NBA. I’m gleaming from your posts that you want Jackson. A guy who disappeared a lot of nights. Tom Izzo, one the best all time coaches in ncaa history barely played him. Thabeet 2.0. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, fan for too long 2 said: So trae is a horrible pick at 6. But a thrilling pick at 8. Got it. Rolls eyes!!! Well 10 he's thrilling but yes. Different picks have different weights and expected returns. Between 06 and 15: The 6th pick has returned Brandon Roy and Lillard as high end pieces. Gallinari and smart as good starters. Noel was still TBD. The 8th pick is Rudy gay, kcp, aminu, Ross, Knight as the best pieces Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, fan for too long 2 said: I’m gleaming from your posts that you want Jackson. A guy who disappeared a lot of nights. Tom Izzo, one the best all time coaches in ncaa history barely played him. Thabeet 2.0. He didn't really disappear. He was played out of position as izzo decided to play two centers and a power forward lineups. And he's the youngest player projected in the lotto. He only got 6.6 fga per game as he was a freshman playing on a team that returned their starting center and starting power forward (and top two scorers) from the previous season. But I like him because he was an elite rim protector, a 40% three point shooter, continued to improve as the year went on, and has the foot speed to switch onto wings on the perimeter so he fits exactly what we want to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Originalticketholder 133 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 2 hours ago, ML6 said: At 6? Yes. Of course you're looking for a starter at the 6th pick. We better get a coach that will play and develop our #6 pick. Unless we get lucky and resign Mario we have a track record that is not real good! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 Also the fact you called him thabeet 2.0 shows you haven't watched much basketball as they couldn't be more different players. Thabeet was a 7'3 slow plodding center that couldn't score outside of 5 feet. Jackson plays like a 6'11 240 lb Golden State version of Harrison Barnes that also happens to be an elite rim protector. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Originalticketholder said: We better get a coach that will play and develop our #6 pick. Unless we get lucky and resign Mario we have a track record that is not real good! We develop them fine. We just give up too early. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 Imagine, preferring Jackson to Trae Young. Crazy! He's only ranked ahead of Trae by ESPN, the ringer, NBA draft dotnet, sports illustrated, USA today, nbc, bleacher report, net scouts, CBS sports, basketball insiders, the stepian (I'm not sure there's another somewhat legitimate mock draft out there) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Eyes On Me 1,206 Report post Posted May 21, 2018 The hope is one of the top 5 surprises and goes Porter, causing either Jackson or Bamba to fall to us. Then, use Shelvin’s deal to trade in to late lotto and get Sexton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites