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?4thewin    1,758
10 minutes ago, JJZFL said:

I get that, but the question was actually a bit more nuanced. The assertion was that we were better as a team without Vuch. I responded that we shouldn’t draw general conclusions after just one game. Whether or not we’re better without Vuch doesn’t only depend on the characteristics you mentioned above, but also on what we have to replace him with. There are significant risks to our offense, given that neither Payton nor Simmons can shoot very well, in playing Biyombo big minutes with the starting line-up. 

The question isn’t whether Vuch is a great center. I think we all know the answer to that one.  The question is whether we’re better without him, given the current players on the team. I don’t think we know the answer yet. 

Eh.  I think you can also view that as "are we better without vucevic [given replacement level options long term]"

I think that answer is yes as long as we have enough healthy players to field a competent offense 

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54 minutes ago, Payton4thewin said:

Eh.  I think you can also view that as "are we better without vucevic [given replacement level options long term]"

I think that answer is yes as long as we have enough healthy players to field a competent offense 

Considering long term replacement options, again I agree. I was more focused on the shorter term, like are we a better team right now without Vuch, because that’s what the earlier discussion was about. Yes, we looked better on defense for one game and our offense didn’t really suffer, but I still think it’s way too early to draw conclusions. 

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