DjMase31 30 Report post Posted November 27, 2017 Time to blow it up. This isnt working and we are doomed to be stuck in the 8-12 slot for years and years. The rebuild was a failure. We missed the top players every single time. Its ok.. just acknowledge that and stop trying to "win now." We can't. Trade everyone now while they still have value. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jagsfreak27 44 Report post Posted November 28, 2017 Yep Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~O~ 565 Report post Posted November 28, 2017 Remember when jj. Didn't have value? Lol. Look at him now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fan for too long 2 527 Report post Posted December 17, 2017 On 11/28/2017 at 4:51 PM, ~O~ said: Remember when jj. Didn't have value? Lol. Look at him now. I remember when svg would watch him basically win the game against spurs and then he wouldn't get off the bench for five games. Good times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mauro Pedrosa 1,028 Report post Posted December 17, 2017 Maybe if AG is hurt we can shut him down for the rest of the season and get a higher pick, but I don't see us tanking. I'm usually for tanking but I don't think this is the right situation. AG has a lot of potential and we should do everything we can to get him a good point guard to play with. Just look at Indiana with Oladipo and Turner. You can build a solid team (especially in the East) with a good guard-big combo and a good system. AG and Isaac are great pieces Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjgator 164 Report post Posted December 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mauro Pedrosa said: Maybe if AG is hurt we can shut him down for the rest of the season and get a higher pick, but I don't see us tanking. I'm usually for tanking but I don't think this is the right situation. AG has a lot of potential and we should do everything we can to get him a good point guard to play with. Just look at Indiana with Oladipo and Turner. You can build a solid team (especially in the East) with a good guard-big combo and a good system. AG and Isaac are great pieces Yeah, too bad we can't get a player like Dipo (damn Hennigan). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gil 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 To be honest. Frank is right Magic are not touch enough. It always has been that way. Magic always go for players that are not controversial or so call "Bad boys".. Which is funny to me because, last time we went to the finals we had Matt Barnes and Rafer Alston (skip to my lue). Howard felt them 2 had his bad or at least the interest of the league.. I still laugh when Skip smack Eddie house in the back of the head... My point is we need Player that have the heart and hustle. I don't see that in this team at all. EP plays scared, he doesn't have a shot, so opponent play off of him to help on a double team. AG and Evan are a streaky players, when they are hot they are hot and keep giving them the ball. Nick Vucevic plays soft and he lets himself get pushed around. Yes, he has game and he let his game speak for him. but That is not enough. The Magic players let the opponents get in their heads and they bow down to the competition. I don't like that. I can see mid way the 3rd qtr in almost every game, is when they start to quit on themselves. Please don't ask for people to get hurt to shut them down. At the end of the day it's basketball and there is no ill will on no one. Us as fan we should ask for more from them, yes. but it should be heart and hustle. I can live with that, even if we loss. I can't deal with giving up. Yes I can understand these guys had 3 different coaches within 3 yrs. but this is year 2 for frank and I expected improvement. I can't put the blame on the coaches anymore. Now I just wonder why Scott Skiles really left. This is my 1st thread in many years, I even forgot my old user name.. But I hope it's not my last and could look for a better future in the magic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted January 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gil said: To be honest. Frank is right Magic are not touch enough. It always has been that way. Magic always go for players that are not controversial or so call "Bad boys".. Which is funny to me because, last time we went to the finals we had Matt Barnes and Rafer Alston (skip to my lue). Howard felt them 2 had his bad or at least the interest of the league.. I still laugh when Skip smack Eddie house in the back of the head... My point is we need Player that have the heart and hustle. I don't see that in this team at all. EP plays scared, he doesn't have a shot, so opponent play off of him to help on a double team. AG and Evan are a streaky players, when they are hot they are hot and keep giving them the ball. Nick Vucevic plays soft and he lets himself get pushed around. Yes, he has game and he let his game speak for him. but That is not enough. The Magic players let the opponents get in their heads and they bow down to the competition. I don't like that. I can see mid way the 3rd qtr in almost every game, is when they start to quit on themselves. Please don't ask for people to get hurt to shut them down. At the end of the day it's basketball and there is no ill will on no one. Us as fan we should ask for more from them, yes. but it should be heart and hustle. I can live with that, even if we loss. I can't deal with giving up. Yes I can understand these guys had 3 different coaches within 3 yrs. but this is year 2 for frank and I expected improvement. I can't put the blame on the coaches anymore. Now I just wonder why Scott Skiles really left. This is my 1st thread in many years, I even forgot my old user name.. But I hope it's not my last and could look for a better future in the magic. Matt Barnes wasn't on the finals team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gil 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2018 22 hours ago, Payton4thewin said: Matt Barnes wasn't on the finals team Your right, my bad. But still when we had him, we were a good team. Meaning, we need some players that are not afraid to show emotion. Be vocal. play hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites