Magicman28 295 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, Payton4thewin said: Do you think Gordon is just some huge ******* behind the scenes? Because I've never seen a team less invested in a good player. It's the only thing i can come up with He works on his game every summer, works on his strength and conditioning, plays on both sides of the ball, I don't care. Him and EP are cool. I just think Fournier and Vuch's mindset plagues this team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNameIsOrlando 310 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, Payton4thewin said: Do you think Gordon is just some huge ******* behind the scenes? Because I've never seen a team less invested in a good player. It's the only thing i can come up with I don't see how it would even matter. Isn't it Vogel's job to make this work? He's doing a piss poor job of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 1 minute ago, TheNameIsOrlando said: I don't see how it would even matter. Isn't it Vogel's job to make this work? He's doing a piss poor job of it. It wouldn't. But I'd at least understand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Eyes On Me 1,183 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 Clippers have lost 8 straight. I wonder if they’d listen to a deal centered around Jordan and Vucevic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~O~ 565 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 43 minutes ago, Payton4thewin said: Do you think Gordon is just some huge ******* behind the scenes? Because I've never seen a team less invested in a good player. It's the only thing i can come up with No. I don't think it's like that. I just feel there is a leadership clash. I don't think Gordon is an ******* at all. I think they're holding it in and they're tense towards each other. I'm sorry if my speculation gets to you but this team is broken now. This is not pretty. You infer that there is a locker room problem right now easily. Honestly, I expected some of our players to get frustrated with one another visually on the court. That's just the floor. As the ceiling, I expect one of our players to lose it after all these years of holding it in and take it out on a teammate. ----------------------------- My major regret for the Magic is hindsight; missing out on major draft prospects like Simmons, Tatum, Wiggins, etc. We did great with oladipo but after that, we just weren't in the right position for sure talent. We did not lose out enough. I feel the Magic are stuck in purgatory and there's nothing any coach can do about it. We need to lose out completely but the cost will be major for our current culture. The Magic are becoming a team that lets their fans down after promises of a great season. The Magic have established an identity of melting down after about 20 to 30 games annually. Remember those fans that we're pissed off at the Magic losing out after trading dwight? Well...now....its hard to say they weren't right. We've developed a losing culture. ----------- The Magic are at 50%. Its not too late to salvage the season but how many times have the Magic been in this position? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
~O~ 565 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 20 minutes ago, Skip to my Jameer 114 said: Clippers have lost 8 straight. I wonder if they’d listen to a deal centered around Jordan and Vucevic If DOM were still around, he'd light you up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, ~O~ said: If DOM were still around, he'd light you up. I mean he defends the rim, rebounds, and is on a 1+1 year deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNameIsOrlando 310 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, Payton4thewin said: I mean he defends the rim, rebounds, and is on a 1+1 year deal Yea but Vuch and Griffin operate in the same space. It makes little sense as far as fit for them in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catalina Maria 64 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 Fournier/Vuc are cancers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Vogel 191 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 Shooting has fallen back to earth and with Isaac out we have more bad defenders than good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fultz4thewin 2,464 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, TheNameIsOrlando said: Yea but Vuch and Griffin operate in the same space. It makes little sense as far as fit for them in my opinion. We'd probably have to include ross and a pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
All Eyes On Me 1,183 Report post Posted November 19, 2017 55 minutes ago, ~O~ said: If DOM were still around, he'd light you up. Not really concerned about the old board ahole’s opinion. If Jordan works great, if not we save a ton of money and let him walk and start over. I just know we need a change... Vucevic at this point is the only constant of the past 5 years of ****ty basketball. I’m done banging our heads against the wall Share this post Link to post Share on other sites