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Odin    87
7 minutes ago, Payton4thewin said:

Right.  It is meh.  Payton isn't "worth" a second rounder. Its very likely that the player we select is going to be worse than Payton.  

But his value on the open market in literally the last 5 minutes we could possibly trade him was a second rounder.  We had to get whatever value we could get out of him.  

He was worth the most as a draft pick.  As a player he was worth the most last June.  But we had to see this through until the last moment because of that post all star run he had last year.  

If the RFA status wasn't a consideration, he was easily worth at least a 1st round pick. But unfortunately, teams over value their picks and there was the RFA status to consider.

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Magicfan1987    215
1 minute ago, Odin said:

If the RFA status wasn't a consideration, he was easily worth at least a 1st round pick. But unfortunately, teams over value their picks and there was the RFA status to consider.

non leading non shooting point guards on top 5 worse teams are worth at least a first round pick? 

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?4thewin    1,727
2 minutes ago, fan for too long 2 said:

How many games has dj started and who was healthy then?

This is a fair point. 

Prior to ross getting injured Augustin started 6 games.  We went 5-1. We had an offensive rating of 113.4 and a defensive rating of 94.7

Payton stated 13 games.  We went 4-9 with an offensive rating of 110.7 and a defensive rating of 114.2

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?4thewin    1,727
4 minutes ago, Magicfan1987 said:

non leading non shooting point guards on top 5 worse teams are worth at least a first round pick? 

Really depends on the market.  It'd be different if there weren't a ton of teams looking to dump average players

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4 minutes ago, Payton4thewin said:

This is a fair point. 

Prior to ross getting injured Augustin started 6 games.  We went 5-1. We had an offensive rating of 113.4 and a defensive rating of 94.7

Payton stated 13 games.  We went 4-9 with an offensive rating of 110.7 and a defensive rating of 114.2

Boy u are great at skewing numbers. Do you work for the gubment?

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magicdoc1    159
Just now, fan for too long 2 said:

Anyone pick up anything on players reactions?

No.. but we surely got mauro’s reaction.

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Murphy13    159
36 minutes ago, Payton4thewin said:

As a starter dj has a +5.3 in just basic plus minus.  Payton is -4.6

We're 110.2 offensive rating and 98.9 defensive rating with Augustin as a starter vs 105.9 and 113.6 with Payton

 

So now we are equating DJ's 7 games started to EP's 44 as being statistically significant (or significant in any way).  If I had more time to show the board your love of cherry picked stats perhaps the collective basketball intelligence wouldn't be at an all time low here.  

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magicdoc1    159
1 minute ago, Gordon MVP said:

New hennigan is WeltHam 

Ohh Co mon. You are overreacting a little. To early yet to put Hennigan’s brand on him. 

I am not happy with what I have seen but cant completely count them off until I see what happens in the offseason. 

 

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