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21 minutes ago, HeHateMe said:

“If we make a trade it will likely be a deal that helps us 3-4 years from now not this year or next” 

This is the best quote I’ve heard from Hammond. He’s finally 100% realized just how awful this roster is. No quick fix half assed moves. Gotta do it the right way. 

Tankonia!!

 

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6 hours ago, Magicman28 said:

Just throwing this out there...AG's the next Josh Smith without the maturity issues?

He is the next Shawn Marion if we ever get good players and coaching

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1 hour ago, HeHateMe said:

“If we make a trade it will likely be a deal that helps us 3-4 years from now not this year or next” 

This is the best quote I’ve heard from Hammond. He’s finally 100% realized just how awful this roster is. No quick fix half assed moves. Gotta do it the right way. 

I hope he isn't planning on trading assets for lousy picks in the 2020s, Although there are few guys I'd just like to see gone and that might be OK. LOL

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6 minutes ago, ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS said:

I hope he isn't planning on trading assets for lousy picks in the 2020s, Although there are few guys I'd just like to see gone and that might be OK. LOL

I posted the link. 

Sounds like there will be close to a full rebuild and “culture” change. 

I wouldn’t be surprised if the only 2 players on the team in 3 years are AG and Issac. Maybe Khem. 

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9 hours ago, Magicfan1987 said:

That's straight up hate speak. Napier wasn't half the player Trae is as a senior and Traes just a freshman. Trae is a much better scorer and passer with better instincts. He's the most skilled all around point guard since who knows when. I think he's a better NBA prospect than Kyrie Irving was out of Duke.

No it's not, it's probably the most realistic assessment -- way more realistic then "OMG THE NEXT CURRY!!"

This guys usage rate in college is off the charts - he wouldn't get that on any NBA team. He's defense is suspect. His ability to finish around the rim is dubious. His wingspan and height are average and  maybe even below average. We have no reason to believe that he will be a superb or even a great athlete in the NBA. His shot may or may not translate to the NBA and that's what people are banking on. 

So...Napier. 

I don't see a reason to take a risk on this guy. He has all the warning signs of a bust. 

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Hezonja’s first field goal in the NBA was a no-hesitation 27-foot 3-pointer from the right wing, 24 seconds after entering a regular-season game for the first time. He’d score eight points in less than two minutes. What followed: a bad pass, two quick fouls in succession, another bad pass, all in roughly 30 seconds. 

In a sense, nothing has changed since then—fits of brilliance entwine with flights of fancy, and soon enough he’s Icarus, crashing down to earth like a ball of space junk. In another, everything has changed. One bald, neurotic defensive specialist of a head coach (Scott Skiles) became another (Frank Vogel), but any coaching change is a major adjustment. Under Skiles, Hezonja was allowed brief instances to relive his childhood days of playing point guard, which Mario once said was his natural position. Now, in his second season under Vogel, he spends roughly two-thirds of his time on the court as a power forward, which might be the last position you’d want a player with significant defensive issues assuming. In both cases, it was about finding spot minutes at any position to give the young player lest he lose his confidence entirely. Hezonja’s tenuous grasp of defensive fundamentals was the thorn in the side of both coaches, evidenced by his lack of consistent playing time. But getting jerked around the positional spectrum over his first three seasons has been a separate punishment unto itself. 

It really shouldn’t be that hard to pinpoint Hezonja’s role on the floor. At 6-foot-8 and 218 pounds, with a firm, upright posture and a void where his conscience should be from 30 feet out, he cuts a low-res image of Klay Thompson. An ideal version of Hezonja might look similar, stylistically, too: a big, strong guard who can handle mismatches in the post and create opportunities for himself and others both through curling around screens and cutting. Hezonja has the most success putting points on the board by darting to the basket; it’s in part a product of what little reputation he has left in the league. Teams routinely treat him as though he were invisible, or hide their worst defender on him. When attention is centralized elsewhere, Hezonja’s impressive top-end speed means he usually ends up with the ball at the apex of his momentum.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/1/24/16925770/free-mario-hezonja-orlando-magic

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