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Odin    29
23 minutes ago, Payton4thewin said:

Vuc and Fournier for Wes Matthews and Noel makes a lot of sense

The best we can do for them is a benched big and a broken down older shooting guard on one of the worst teams in the league? I think they should have some more value than that, even if maybe not a lot more.

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Payton4thewin    1,159
19 minutes ago, Odin said:

The best we can do for them is a benched big and a broken down older shooting guard on one of the worst teams in the league? I think they should have some more value than that, even if maybe not a lot more.

Matthews is a solid defender and one of the best catch and shoot wings in the league still. 

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26 minutes ago, Odin said:

The best we can do for them is a benched big and a broken down older shooting guard on one of the worst teams in the league? I think they should have some more value than that, even if maybe not a lot more.

Throw in a 2nd and I'm in!

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1 hour ago, Payton4thewin said:

Vuc and Fournier for Wes Matthews and Noel makes a lot of sense

Sign me up. I always liked Wes. And get an athletic big. Plus addition by subtraction. I'm strapped in. 

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magicdoc1    76
2 hours ago, Payton4thewin said:

Vuc and Fournier for Wes Matthews and Noel makes a lot of sense

I think Fournier’s and Vuch value around the league is a little higher than that. 

Noel is not even playing in a team that is in dire need of a center. Also, he is a free agent who will be asking too much money. Pretty much a salary dump. Vuch salary is not that bad to be honest.

I like Noel over Vuch as a player but not in this situation.

Vuch value>>> Noel expiring contract. 

Wes is very similar to what we have in Ross. Better overall shooter than Ross but not overall better offensive player than Fournier

Fournier offense and Ross defense>>>Wes.

They will need to include a future first, to be honest. Other than that I will explore other options. 

I think the Bulls scenario you mentioned before is  more interesting. 

Will Boston consider either Vuch or Fournier for a package centered in Smart or even Rozier? 

Will Phoenix consider Vuch or Fournier and Mario for a packaged centered on Len? Or even Chandler with chriss/Bender or a pick?

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The Boss    12

I'd take it. Would really hand the keys over to AG with Wes being a great catch and shoot, and Noel being a defensive specialist. It may not be equal value because of Fournier (Vuc has barely any value, no one wants slow bigs that can't play D). I'm really over Vuc and Fournier, the latter more so.

Always loved Noel. I remember in NBA 2K12 (I think) I played a long association mode with the Magic (as I do every year). Someone made a realistic draft class for the following season and put it into the game. We ended up getting the number 1 or 2 pick and I took Noel and developed him into a beast over the next few years, since then I've always liked the guy (I had him into about year 3 in-game before he was even drafted into the NBA).

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Jay Magic    158
1 hour ago, magicdoc1 said:

I think Fournier’s and Vuch value around the league is a little higher than that. 

Noel is not even playing in a team that is in dire need of a center. Also, he is a free agent who will be asking too much money. Pretty much a salary dump. Vuch salary is not that bad to be honest.

I like Noel over Vuch as a player but not in this situation.

Vuch value>>> Noel expiring contract. 

Wes is very similar to what we have in Ross. Better overall shooter than Ross but not overall better offensive player than Fournier

Fournier offense and Ross defense>>>Wes.

They will need to include a future first, to be honest. Other than that I will explore other options. 

I think the Bulls scenario you mentioned before is  more interesting. 

Will Boston consider either Vuch or Fournier for a package centered in Smart or even Rozier? 

Will Phoenix consider Vuch or Fournier and Mario for a packaged centered on Len? Or even Chandler with chriss/Bender or a pick?

NO to Alex Len LOOL

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magicdoc1    76
8 minutes ago, Jay Magic said:

NO to Alex Len LOOL

why not? if Vuch can get you Len and  Chris or Len and Bender, I will do it in a heartbeat. Len is on his last year of his contract at 4 millions and he is still 24 year of age. He is definetetly a better defender than Vuch. 

 Bender or Chriss are still on their rookie deal and The SUNS are loaded in the Center/PF position with Chandler, Len, Monroe, Williams, Bender and Chriss. They need to move someone. 

I see Chandler and likely Bender as the two pieces they will likely move. I think those two pieces  are better than Vuch and Mario in my opinion.  

 

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