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3 hours ago, magicdoc1 said:

Showcasing him for a potential trade in the offseason?

No.  It's helpful for his rehab to get into games now vs waiting 6 months.  

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51 minutes ago, ROCK LEGENDS PHOTOGRAPHERS said:

We CAN NOT, should not, must not, absolutely better not get a PG that can't shoot 3s EVER AGAIN! Allowing the defense to sag off the PG creates too much logjam in the passing lanes.

So hypothetically, if there was a player like Westbrook or John Wall in the draft and we had the chance to draft them you wouldn’t do it? 

Neither of those players shoot 3s exceptionally well but have great speed and athleticism that give them an advantage. 

I think Payton just scarred you haha

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17 hours ago, ~O~ said:

Nope.  ***** LeBron and as a Magic fan, ***** the Heat.  I mean this statement with all my heart.  

It would be more of a positive for the league if a team would eliminate him from the playoffs which was my main point.  The East has no stabilized perseverance to overcome the pony show.  The EAST needs to grow a pair.  They constantly choke on the stage (Toronto and the Wizards) and let a one trick pony beat them.   How has the East not figured him out yet?  No.....no they figured him out.  They figured out that he likes to take them in the ass.   If the East were a *****ing matress store, do you know how many mattresses would have **** on them?  

I thought you were going to defend the case that they should develop independent of Lebron but  you went the narrative route as you were  socially trained to do by the talking "OPINIONATED" talking heads.  More social conformity.  I guess LeBron deserves everything right?  ***** competition if LeBron isn't making the finals?    Right?  

Currently, the narrative swung to LeBron winning MVP since he won't get any bailout titles anymore so I wouldn't be surprised if Harden had the MVP stolen from him for the sake of adding to delusion that LeBron James had more of a dominant career than Jordan.  LeBrons stat padding triple doubles get more mention then anything...against the lesser competition he's having the face.  Golden State is suspension bailout proof and Houston isn't going to let the likes of LeBron beat them  if they peak to the finals.  

 

And............... what happens when he comes to philly? Hmm..I wonder....what the *****..will happen.  Definitely.......definitely won't be the same ****show we've seen.  Oh the Nba..will be different.   Oh.  Ben Simmons and the Philadelphia 76ers will be the headline?  Right?  LeBron will get all the criticism and the teammates won't be blamed for nothing..right?  Oh....hmm....the 76ers are on a 5 game losing streak...uh oh.  Time for "LEBRON"...to get traded right?  Not anyone else?  Hmm.   Brett Brown will definitely be looked up to by LeBron and LeBron will defend him!  The offense is perfect and it doesn't have nothing to do with LeBron's usage level.  Most of philly's fanbase will be authentic..and definitely will not be turncoat Cleveland/mia/cleveland/ fans....right?  The ball will definitely be in the other guy's hands and they'll be able to develop.  Lebron won't dominate the ball...like he use to.  He'll....*eh*.......change.  

 

 

Oh, it'll be  all about him...AGAIN...and Embiid, Fultz, and Simmons instantly become a player within his shadow.  All the blame will fall on their shoulders if they lose because LeBron cannot be criticized as the philosophy goes.  LeBron's usage percentage will be the death of their development Than LeBron will take over their front office if **** isn't working in his favor.  Of course a coach will get fired here and there because the offense is ran around by the pony show we've been seeing for a decade.  This **** show gets regurgitated every year. Whoa...what is that?  Is that my tv shorting 

Philly doesn't need LeBron to be a championship team. All that is needed is development, confidence, resilience, and grit.  Its their first year of competitive basketball so I don't expect them to win it all but I eventually expect them to be elite.  They can win it all independent of selfish stat padding cunts.  Simmons, Fultz, and Embiid are a superb core.  They are fine the way they are.  LeBron needs Philadelphia to support his ..............*CRINGE*........Leg........acy.   

 

So once again..***** LeBron, ***** the talking heads who trained LeBron lovers very well, and ***** the LeBron entire brand.  Once again, I mean this all my heart.  Well, here's to the eastern conference eunuchs. 

 

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Now let me add that I love Golden State but I'm sure as hell happy that the Rockets actually didn't sit down and let them rule the West. 

I wouldn't mind seeing the Rockets win it all.  Chris Paul has a REAL...ambition to win a championship and is a team player.  You can see it in his isolations.  He has a personal agenda to destroy the GSW.  They've assembled and outstanding team around Paul. I don't mention Harden enough because I hate..his game..but he will be a huge key.  They showed their confidence in game the most.  Even Utah, Denver, and Portland were convincingly  competitive against Golden State. 

 

The Pacers,  who won the series against Cleveland, 3-1, swept the series against the Warriors.    I'm hoping..that the Pacer's can extend this to the post season..but the Pacers as a franchise has been disappointing..for a long time.  

First, the Heat are a good team to copy their model from. As this team's rival I can understand your dislike of them, but there is no denying that they've done a heck of a good job since coming into the league. They have no prolonged stretch of losing other than their first eight years in the league, after that Arison bought that team and brought Riley on board. Since then they've been competitive. Their longest spell out of the play offs since 1995-1996? Two seasons. They also have two single losing seasons in which they missed the play offs and one season at .500 in which they missed. Compared to sixteen winning and play off seasons. So they are getting right up there with the San Antonio Spurs for being consistently competitive and that's something we should learn from and try to replicate. 

Second, I am not conforming to any norm by stating there is nothing wrong with LeBron joining the 76ers. Would he make them a better team? Yes. Would his addition make it his team and not their young players team? Possibly, but that would depend on Embiid and Simmons allowing it. But do they need him? Not necessarily if their players continue to improve. They've already moved up to the 3rd seed. So they are trending in the right direction and there's a chance they can be successful without LeBron. But all honesty I'd rather them win without LeBron, just like I'd rather have seen Durant win a title without having to resort joining the Warriors, however the flipside to that is there is no doubt in my mind that LeBron joining the 76ers would make them the best team in the east. If I was a 76ers fan I'd have no problem with my team adding a player of that caliber, and as a magic fan you should know as well as anyone that had this team added Tim Duncan we might very well have had championship banners hung from the rafters. Instead we missed on such players and supported our stars with decent help and we know how that played out. The most successful teams in this league build strong supporting casts and the 76ers add LeBron so be it, but if they don't, good luck to them. I think they'll be successful either way.

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6 hours ago, billy5783 said:

So hypothetically, if there was a player like Westbrook or John Wall in the draft and we had the chance to draft them you wouldn’t do it? 

Neither of those players shoot 3s exceptionally well but have great speed and athleticism that give them an advantage. 

I think Payton just scarred you haha

We would never have a chance to draft someone like them.  We never have that high of a draft pick!  lol!

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6 hours ago, billy5783 said:

So hypothetically, if there was a player like Westbrook or John Wall in the draft and we had the chance to draft them you wouldn’t do it? 

Neither of those players shoot 3s exceptionally well but have great speed and athleticism that give them an advantage. 

I think Payton just scarred you haha

That's why scouts like Sexton. He’s got a relentlessness and athleticism like Bledsoe had coming out. 

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16 minutes ago, Soul Bro said:

That's why scouts like Sexton. He’s got a relentlessness and athleticism like Bledsoe had coming out. 

I really love Sextons attitude. Fiery and competitive dude. I’m just curious what his great physical traits are. He is quick to the basket but he’s not a leader or anything from what I’ve watched (which isn’t much to be honest).

I like the leadership and mentality but just can’t figure out the player.

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10 hours ago, billy5783 said:

So hypothetically, if there was a player like Westbrook or John Wall in the draft and we had the chance to draft them you wouldn’t do it? 

Neither of those players shoot 3s exceptionally well but have great speed and athleticism that give them an advantage. 

I think Payton just scarred you haha

I don't care if they shoot them exceptionally well, they just need to be willing to shoot them.

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In their injury report for their game Sunday in Toronto, the Magic have listed Terrence Ross (knee), Aaron Gordon (calf) & Nikola Vucevic (back) as probable to play. Jonathan Isaac (ankle), Jonathon Simmons (wrist) & Evan Fournier (knee) are listed as out.

We are gonna end up winning another game you watch loool

we can still finish 3rd bottom if we are smart.

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10 minutes ago, Jay Magic said:

In their injury report for their game Sunday in Toronto, the Magic have listed Terrence Ross (knee), Aaron Gordon (calf) & Nikola Vucevic (back) as probable to play. Jonathan Isaac (ankle), Jonathon Simmons (wrist) & Evan Fournier (knee) are listed as out.

We are gonna end up winning another game you watch loool

we can still finish 3rd bottom if we are smart.

We won't win.  We'll play them 20 minutes to lose by 12 instead of 37

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